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Our singer (also guitarists wife) does go out & check mix when we’re playing. It’s quite funny though as he won’t give his wife the IPad mixer and she has tell him what adjustments to make. Never get any reports that people can’t hear the bass but I will try & get a decent recording next time we gig. It still depends on the mix our guitarist is giving us I guess. out of curiosity why do sound engineers always do the drums first & mix from there or is it just line levels their getting?

Am I naive in thinking a Full Range PA speaker can’t recreate the tone I get through my IEM? I appreciate it’s tiny little speakers compared to fairly hefty ones.

Yes, couple of One10s so no tweeter on these.

Hi Phil, thanks for your reply & advice. Certainly didn’t mean I don’t want the FOH to be the best it can be but going PRE on the DI means I’m being asked to play with treble full on my bass as I’m being asked/told that’s the only way to push enough treble to the FOH. I roll a fair bit off on the amp in as I prefer a honky midrange tone to a trebly clank. I find the White Nylons brighter than your usual tapewounds too. My problem with going to listen to FOH is I’m still in the hands of the Sound Guy to EQ properly & like you see, he seems to say he’s getting no definition on my tone. In my limited knowledge my amp DI is giving a flat(ish) signal for him to use. One guess is our Sound Guy likes a bass heavy tone, so lots of time spent on kick drum & high in the mix. My bass is then getting lost in this area of EQ but might be miles off the mark. Thanks again & any advice on how to EQ a PA FOH for my bass would be appreciated too. Can I go with a DI box that would let me EQ a signal to the PA but send flat to my amp? Although can’t help feel our PA should be able to EQ this in.

Our guitarist doubles as our Sound Guy and keeps complaining my DI to the PA isn’t giving him enough treble. I’m no audio engineer but would appreciate any help. Bass is a passive PJ 5 with Aguilar pickups, mostly played on the P pickup with a tad of the J rolled in. Strings are the La Bella White Nylons. Amp is Mesa D800 with DI set to pre. Bass is full 3/4 rolled towards treble. My IEM clank away with plenty bite to them (more than I actually like) but our desk (Soundcraft UI) does show the signal shelves at around 7KHz but certainly not to nothing. Feel like telling him to work with what he’s getting as I don’t want to compromise my IEM tone for FOH if I can help it. Any thoughts or ideas?

Just did, quads are 2xlow 1xmid 1xhigh so I’m fine with that, unless someone says I really should go with the 5s which are 2xbass 1xlow-mid 1xhigh-mid 1xhigh

Cheers, I thought the quads said it had an second sub driver too. Is that not correct?

Where did you see that LUGS are doing more than Quad drivers? I’ve just ordered a set as they say it’s a dual-bass setup but didn’t realise Rob could customise further. I can see another text coming on!

I’d be really keen to know how the quad LUGS sound. Was considering the UE6 but given these could be a couple hundred quid cheaper, definitely on my radar.

I’ll be interested in this too, currently I use the Behringer Ma400 but keen to see what others recommend. I’ve read the Rolls units & Fischer are the IEM amps of choice.

I’ve got to suggest the Mesa M6 as well, the most lovely in-yer-face punchy sound in my opinion. I’ve owned a lot of amps & of them all, this was the one! Got a Mesa D800 now and it’s a great amp but not even close to the M6, again in my opinion.

I had a Mesa M6 with a couple of Vanderkley 210’s and had the same problem. Best rig I’ve owned but too much for the band I play in even with volume at 1, so head ruled my heart & it’s now gone. In my case I felt that I needed to drive the amp & speakers at certain volumes to get the tone I was after. Could probably have achieved the same with some tweaking on the bass volume or pedals as others have suggested. However, I expect my gear to suit me not me suit the gear, so I moved it on. you live & learn.

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Isn't this the law of diminishing returns as well? A 2nd BF One10 will add another 7kg of weight but a second RCF will add another 12kg. Does look like a great wee setup mind you.

I play weddings & functions mostly but believe me when I say there’s a very strict one in, one out policy. Only ever have a couple of basses max so I try to make sure they’re what I like and buying/selling doesn’t work out too expensive in the long run. Still hankering for an early Warwick Stage 2 4-string the same as one of my first basses though, although I know it doesn’t make sense for the band I’m in and can’t bring myself to part with the Shuker’s. Heart over head and all that.

Going a bit off topic because neither of these were PJ but here’s a couple of pics of the Sei basses I had built & used to own. Proper Jazz thru-necks and I have no idea why I sold either of them 😟 can only guess Basschat GAS but they led me to my Shuker’s so all good in the end 😁

Cheers Cuzzie, It’s currently sporting a tort pickguard as Jon Shuker cut me a mint white, a tort & a white pearl pickguard when the bass was built. No extra to pay, he just thought I’d fancy different options. He really is a fantastic person to build a bass with.

Funnily enough I love a thru-neck too and got a passive PJ 5-string built by Jon Shuker a couple of years back with a set neck option. Pretty much a Fender 70’s Jazz style with MOP blocks on the neck. Got a similar styled “active” 5-string from him too but that has Wizard Humbucker pickups instead of the PJ. Both cracking basses & cant beat that thru-neck feel.

I’m struggling to understand why you would want the input to be on the rear. Don’t basses plug into the front even when an amp is rack mounted?

Yes, plan is to use these with the D800 & fingers crossed it's not a bouncy stage

Too late now anyway, the third One10 was ordered this morning and if Alex "gets the finger oot" as they say in Scotland I'll have this for my next pub gig on the 27th! Reports to follow but I'm certain I'll be very happy and the guitarist in the band will (hopefully) complain I'm too loud. Always thought the Acme cab badges worked well for horizontal & vertical, maybe something like that for your One10 & Two10 cabs where they can be positioned both ways.

Alex did say he could do a Two10 with the badge aligned for vertical but it came with a customisation charge! I won't say how much but it wasn't cheap to simply glue it in a different position. I'm pretty certain I'll go with another One10 and stack them 3 high. It'll be quite narrow so hope it doesn't topple over!

Unfortunately not with the cloth grills

Thanks everyone for your comments & advice. One of my thoughts with going for the Two10 is aesthetics, I'd really prefer the badges to be right-way up and if I go for a Two10 & One10 then both badges are on their sides. So, I'll likely go for another One10 based purely on that. However, I'd be interested to hear why Alex doesn't think a 3x10 is worth the bother so might drop him a PM unless he's reading this and is happy to answer. If, like he say's these little cabs are as good as a decent 15" or 2x10" then it will be like going from a 4x10 to a 6x10 and that's got to shift a bit more air! The added height will also help bring the stack to ear level, 45" for 3xOne10 or 48" for 2xTwo10 Still happy to hear other thoughts though.

I have a Mesa Subway D800 and couple of Barefaced One10's and 99% they work really well. Once or twice though, I've felt I just needed a bit more "heft" for want of a better word If I'm being honest, it's usually pub gigs rather than the usual wedding stuff and it's probably when I want to feel the bass as much as hear it. Anyway, my question to the masses is... Should I get another One10 (could make this my home/practice rig) and have a 3 x One10 stack for the pub gigs or should I bite the bullet, sell a One10 and go for a Two10 so I always run a 3x10 setup. I'd welcome some opinions & if anyone has run a 3x10 stack before it would be great to hear from you.