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[quote name='blue' timestamp='1444422638' post='2883245'] Is working from home a good comparison to playing bass guitar at home. Blue [/quote] My point was, that irrespective of what the "work" is, you don't only have to be playing live in order to put the work in. You seem to have this weird view that there is only one possible goal when being able to play an instrument, and that goal, must be to play live. You don't appear to understand that others may not have the same outlook as yourself. I think it's all about what goes on in people's lives (I'm not suggesting that this really is the case but) in your life for example, your band may be the only thing you have going on at this point. You may not be in a relationship, you don't have another job, ergo, your main focus will be on your band life and gigging. For some people on this website, gigging will be the last thing on Earth that they'd ever want to do. It's obvious that you're really passionate about what you do and that's brilliant but we're all different and we all take from music (and playing) just what we need to fill either a large, or very small gap in our lives. Peace.

[quote name='JTUK' timestamp='1444405585' post='2883040'] I mean if you play for yourself at home to only please yourself...it doesn't matter what your discipline is like... but when you play with other people or to other people you have to adhere to other people's parameters. [/quote] Surely anyone who works from home has to be disciplined otherwise they'd all lay in bed all day and get nothing done. I can't see that self discipline has anything to do with other people. You may have to conform or be flexible in some way but that's not the same.

[quote name='blue' timestamp='1444400542' post='2882955'] I don't think it's all that complicated or that one is better than the other. I'm saying a lot more work goes into gigging than playing at home alone. And then, it only my opinion. Blue [/quote] Really? You turn up at a gig, someone else has probably put the set list together. You rely on a drummer to provide the drumming, guitarists and vocalists to provide the guitaring and vocals etc etc etc yet if someone wants to do that at home, they are programming drum tracks, singing, playing or programming the bass, playing guitar or (and) keys and possibly even composing the track in the first place. Even if they purely play one instrument for pleasure, they may be putting in 8 hours a day to learn their craft. Pity Mike Oldfield or Emmit Rhodes aren't here to explain how much work they put into their "easy way out" home recorded projects. I agree with an earlier poster that maybe you need to change your name to Black & white

6 basses, 4 electric geetars 4 acoustics and 2 banjos. Why not?

[quote name='blue' timestamp='1444343646' post='2882522'] All I'm saying is playing in the bedroom is still taking the easy way out. Just because a guy doesn't care about the inconveniences of gigging doesn't change that. Do your saying the skill set it takes to be a live gigging musician is the same as the bedroom player? Blue [/quote] The easy way out of what? Music is a hobby to most people. The big difference here is that it's your one and only job so, you work to deliver the best you can so you don't lose that job. Regarding your "skill set" remark, it takes a different skill set to be a brain surgeon as opposed to a nurse but maybe all the nurses didn't actually want to be brain surgeons and get more job satisfaction doing what they do. You appear to be under the impression that if others aren't as enthusiastic as you are about playing and gigging, then they're not taking the whole thing as seriously as you think they should. I remember from a previous post that you used to work behind a desk in some sort of financial institution or something. A job you hated and couldn't cope with by your own admission so, you picked up a bass and now play in a band. Maybe in your old office they think you took the easy way out

[quote name='blue' timestamp='1444342216' post='2882510'] Thing about playing at home, your always playing under damn near perfect conditions. Playing to a perfect tempo,playing along to recordings made by the best in the business, playing in a sitting position. None of that happens at live gigs.There's a completely different learning curve you have to master to play live. Stuff that doesn't happen in the bedroom. Blue [/quote] But people who only want to play in the bedroom, don't give a sh*t about standing or having to play with a live drummer, that's the point Blue, not everyone wants to do what you do and probably 75% of them don't need the money. Folks just do what suits them.

[quote name='MoonBassAlpha' timestamp='1444313706' post='2882163'] I found that too at Ronnie Scott's last week at the Bebel Gilberto show - I looked round the room and I was the ONLY person grooving along in my seat. Eventually I stood up and grooved along at the bar with apparently the only other person in there with a pulse [/quote] Yup, 6 months ago, a friend of our son told me he was going to Ronnie Scott's for dinner with some friends. "Who's on?" I enquired. "Dunno, some bloke or a band maybe. Me mate got the tickets" Whoever was playing must have been overjoyed with that bunch in the audience.

I enjoy gigging, and I play quite a few but certainly don't regard anyone who plays, but doesn't want to gig as weird. Maybe they just enjoy the challenge of the instrument or simply want to play for their own amusement. It doesn't make them any less of a guitarist / bassist or violinist than anyone else, only a musician who'll be inexperienced in playing with others.

Being a huge Steve Morse fan, I simply love Dave La Rue's tone on all of the Steve Morse band albums. I've not managed to get anywhere near it in 10 years though.

I'll have a look on UK EBay anyway, see what's about. Trouble is, like last time I went to Ronnie Scott's (Lee Ritnour, Dave Grusin, Tom Kennedy and Sonny Emory) half the bloody audience have no real interest in the music but just think its the place to go to impress their girlfriend or pals and spend half the night yakking.

[quote name='ribbetingfrog' timestamp='1443986882' post='2879274'] I wonder if he does lessons. [/quote] Yes he does, I believe he's a tennis coach.

[quote name='TrevorR' timestamp='1444132495' post='2880506'] But whatever Robert Plants, Roger Waters! [/quote] Ah, but was Rick Wright?

Never use the bridge. I only ever use neck or neck/middle positions.

Electro harmonix Holy grail? Seem to be the one that loads of guitarists swear by.

I suppose that had the mids been set at -8, you could safely assume that Mark King had been the previous driver

We do this and I have an old Zoom 707 multi effects (about £20 s/h) that I use as an on stage tuner. The "fretless" patch sounds spot on for the number.

16th / 17th / 18th Nov at Ronnie's. Steve Gadd, Jimmy Johnson and Mike Landau. Damn, all dates sold out already. Seems they're avoiding France too on the tour.

Appearances like that, and clinics, probably pay GG's mortgage. Whether he actually wanted to be up there with that bunch is another matter I'm sure he cringes every time he gets reminded of it.

That's what I like to hear. You'll be gigging 6 nights a week in no time.

Sad, but on the upside, not many get to have a 60 year career doing what you love. RIP.

There is a young cowboy he lives on the range His horse and his cattle are his only companions Sweet baby James. James Taylor

[quote name='Dad3353' timestamp='1442936264' post='2870752'] A 'Face' could have been construed, back then, as a celebrity, or person of note; the folks cited were simply somewhat modest. [/quote] I'm guessing you were not originally from London Dad, as a "face", when I were a lad, was someone of dubious character and reputation that you usually avoided.

[quote name='yorks5stringer' timestamp='1442935969' post='2870747'] Band names can be deceptive. For instance, all the "Fine Young Cannibals" were actually Vegan [/quote] Bugger! The fine young cannibals are coming round to dinner tonight and I've made a beef casserole

HELP NEEDED. Thought I'd ask here first. Does anybody know why Steve Marriott, Kenney Jones, Ronnie Lane and Jimmy Winston decided to call themselves the Small faces? as the average male face width is between 12.8 and 13.2 cms and all four of theirs fall within these parameters. I had previously thought that they may have had some teenage friends with much larger faces thus meaning that their faces were indeed "smaller" but on investigation, this has not turned out to be the case!