caitlin

Hmm, I guess I've not noticed other people's processes in my bands but I've always listened to covers, charted it, compressed the chart till it fits on one page, then played it till it's committed to muscle memory. So I do the whole thing, listen, hear, write, read, read, read, never read again. But then drummers... thick, right?

This ^ do not overlook ventilation, it's a perforation so a frequency leak, but also with all that mass and the fact that the walls are literally turning sound into heat, and your sweaty human bodies in there they can get unpleasantly hot very quickly without ventilation, commonly the fresh is delivered from the floor line and extracted at the top so convection helps the process along.

That or some really quite expensive laboratories and willing volunteers

I think you're being a bit unfair, they're only on about animals and insects in most of the GOOD songs. Anyway, some of it is metaphor. you're just not *getting* it, man 🤣 Anyway everyone DOES want to be Naked and Famous and we're definitely not going to maaaaakkkkeeee eeeeeiiiiiiit,

You can usually spot a room in room by there being two doors and a weirdly wide door jamb.

None of this stuff is not true, but I really like PUSA lyrics.

Yeh one thing the book's good for is showing how mistakes can invalidate a LOT of effort and expense. Done right the effects are astonishing, but one slip and you've coupled 40Hz straight into the kitchen It breaks my heart how loud the bathroom fan is in my music room (glorified third bedroom)

Yeh, I forgot that one, there are Z shaped metal doodles you can use to hang the drywall on. A really good book to discourage yourself with is "Home Recording Studio, Build It Like the Pros" by Rod Gervais. It's full of awesome info you can use to crush your dreams or I suppose find something acceptable. Ultimately my plans died in local zoning meaning that after 8pm or something if any neighbour could hear a cat fart in their lounge then I was antisocial and drums are ideal for creating a full spectrum of annoying noises from sub bass to tinnitus cymbals. Victory.

I got jealous so copied people and there's now less to trip over cluttering up the floor. Bonus!

I spent AGES looking into this for my drums since I bought a house. The solution I ultimately went for was a pretty high end electric kit and headphones. As others have said this is wave physics and the only solutions are either decoupling with a low transmissive medium, or MASS. Ultimately one form of energy needs to be converted into another to make it go away. This is compression waves in air turned into heat. Room in a room is SUPER heavy (mass) so you can only do it on ground floors, few buildings would be constructed to support a sound proof room without significant reinforcement. The usual 'cheap' way to do it is room in room supported on dense foam rubber pucks with a dual layer of plasterboard panels 'glued together' with green glue on each surface of the cube and a mixed density rubber floor. The Green Glue is stuff that's sticky but never actually goes off and solidify so it allows the gummed together panels to flex converting the sound into friction and therefore heat. Treatment, much simpler (and harder, lol) figure out where your listening points are in the room and run frequency sweeps to find the room resonances and put traps around the place till the resonances go away.

Whatever fits the purpose? Sells a record, transmits an emotion, tells a joke, rhymes, adds irony?

True enough, but I guess that's the difference between preventive maintenance every few years and waiting till stuff breaks to fix it. I mean, I change my drum heads before any big events rather than waiting till they tear to switch one out in the middle of a show. Oh, big events , how I miss them.

Why wouldn't one re-flow the joints with *some* regularity, this is just *maintenance*

Me? I *love* a backing track, proves to those other buggers that it IS them that can't keep time

Isn't this some PRS thingy, that you need two people for it to be an 'act' or something and the licencing changes? I don't recall, ianal etc. [citation needed]

Get out, there's nothing wrong with this thread.

Eurgh. I think I'd rather be bandless. Good luck. I'm actually a bit scared of playing here, Scottish lads are *good*

I feel I should have posted this in the first instance since it would have saved a lot of words. White/black fender cable in the DI goes basswards, cables at the back right wander off to the power amp. the RCA pair closer to the master volume are the line in from laptop/whatever (tape input) The stripey cable wanders off to my music stand taking the 'control out' signal to my tuner. Bonus points: I can plug my vdrums into channel 3/4 and put them in the amp. The mp3 file I linked to up there ^^ knows nothing of this, because that went into a saffire firewire doodle into logic and had a compressor and an amp sim added to it. You've all been very kind by ignoring it tactfully rather than telling me to go back to the drums where I can do less harm

Yeh, if there's an output transformer than it'll drop all the heat into the coil and burn it out without a load. I'm unsure what mosfets do, but I guess they saturate and the current stops flowing. I thinky I should read some manuals probably since every amp is going to 'depend'

Yeh, my guitar stuff is a 5W tube amp through a 10 inch speaker and it's stunning. Certainly shocked some people who've been round for a go on it. I think you're right about waiting till I know more before buying an amp, I'm just not sure how I'm going to get exposure and learn this stuff. This I suppose is the nature of being a noob, I'll acquire what I need without noticing it happening, I imagine.

I had a brief pop at being pro, I wanted to be a musician when I was tiny but my idiot parents made me do school and become *successful* or something. The sheer amount of *work* to do music compared with other jobs makes it a vocation, or an addiction if you ask me. If you can't do anything else then it's pretty easy to stay 1000% committed to it. I've certainly had slumps where I feel like chucking it all in, but I am addicted. I'm just getting old enough where most bands wouldn't want me and I've really had to refocus what I want music to mean to me. I couldn't be *bothered* to practise drums because without a band to practise for I didn't have a reason to. I went back and got some 'lessons' which turned more into hanging out with another drummer and talking rubbish, but it revitalised my love for drums and playing them for sake of it, learning things because they're hard and they sound great and being able to just sit down and enjoy grooving for half an hour. Learning a new instrument is certainly revitalising my love of music, I am terrified of the prospect of future auditions with an instrument I can't play 1% as well as I drum. The other thing I feel is tough is that thing where the better you get at an instrument the more aware you are of how bad you suck at it. As time's gone on, the only thing I've got is more critical of my playing, getting through that and enjoying my own ability a bit more has been lovely. Work is always horrid, if it was super fun they wouldn't need to pay you

Oof, thanks for linking this, I am stuck listening to this EP on a loop.

LINK PLS! are they the same actulol volts though? An alkaline PP3 is 6 AAA batteries or sutin, so the chemistry is 1.5V * 6 = 9V The boring rechargies are usually a 1.2V chemistry so you'd need 7.5 batteries to hit a real 9V Lipos are 3.9V are they? so anyway, they all fall out at different nominal numbers of voltsies and I don't know how much guitars really care... "insert all the stuff about batteries affecting the tones in pedals or whatever"

Yeh, I think this is kind of the point, I don't think I have a desire or need for a 'practise amp' some 30W farty cardboard cone, 8" car stereo speaker isn't going to give me any warm fuzzies. Do the REAL heads always require a load for the main outs, or can you run them with just the DI into a desk? I mean in my tiny music hole I have a 'PA' in the samson amp and the hi-fi speakers with a wee desk plugged in, so I'm DIing into a model rig. Were I to have a 'real' amp, i could mess with the tone of it in my grotto, take it with me to a pub with a PA or drag my cab out of the garage if I feel a desire to go play in a field with a generator. For the sake of the argument and please be kind, like I said I've been doing this 3 weeks: since my last post I did this out of one of the Hal Leonard books: http://cat.scot/111.mp3 MIND YOUR EARS, I think it came out a bit hot.

Practise at home, but aiming high, like I might want to assuming one day I might like to make some *friends* and assault a pub. My music room is a bit cramped, but I can stash a cab in a garage were I actually ever in a band. I'm a music school failure level drummer and have been in a few bands. Narrowly missed out on playing at Glastonbury that one time, but the band were *horrible*, just odious people so no regrets. (The lies we tell ourselves?) I'm about 3 weeks in to learning bass, but can surely get to amateur level in a year or two if I work?