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(quoting myself now...) or it could just be newer v older strings. OK< Sibob, spill them beans.

Never really went for the coloured headstocks myself - it's good we don't all like the same one ! I prefer the dot markers (clay ideally so it turns mucky), and I think suburst suits well. Odd that I do like the Lakland briedge shape, many don't apparently. And then there's the neck, I need a 60's C neck. Basically I want the 1st or 3rd I owned years ago. I might look out for a MIJ. I think there is a problem with Precisions though - when you finally get a good one you have to stop buying basses, because there is really no point and also it's wrong. Like getting married. One. That's it. Mary J n U2 did the song, that's what it was about.

Listened to this quite a bit, different phones, then through amp. I reckon it's really close but I will go with Precision / Lakland / P / L. I think I hear a tiny touch more mid-top bite or attack on the Lakland (or what I think is the Lakland.) So really close, could be wrong. Interested to hear in due course. Both brilliant basses.

Time to commit. I'm going for P/L/P/L... To me it is really close and unless I was told to listen for 2 different basses, I'd not give it a thought. I think there might be a tiny bit more mid-high attack on the Lakland. Either way is very good anyway - if I was ever shopping for a bass at this level, I'd want to try the Lakland first, just because of the '64 neck profile which I am quite a fan of. Reminds me yet again what a phenominally good job Leo did back in the beginning. Was watching Scott's thing with Sean Hurley about session players using P basses, and how they fit the space between kick and snare - just all round excellence, the reference bass in my book. Excellent work Sibob, thanks from me 👍

This deserves a wider audience. Hidden away in the Precision thread about 16 pages down, I asked Sibob about the sound differences between his '71 Precision, and his Lakland 44-64. He went to the trouble of making an A/B demo track. So, here's the challenge. {quoting Sibob) *Use decent headphones/speakers* I'll let you try to decide in which order they go. The basses change every 4 bars. Volumes have been normalised as one was a fair bit louder than the other, this is a tonal comparison, not a pickup volume test. Both are strung with La Bella flat wounds, the '71 has 760FL, the 44-64 has 760FS ________________________________________________________________________________ Sometimes I think I've got it, then I get confused. I'm not done with this yet.

a thought Sibob - if anyone reckons they've cracked this, don't reveal just yet - this is FUN

Brilliant work Sibob Went to a fair bit of trouble there - much appreciated. I'm sure anyone here (or elsewhere) investigating the Lakland 44-64 and original Precisions will find this really useful. Having said that, so far (Sony mid-range phones) I don't know yet - I think I've heard a slight difference at the higher end but not commiting til I listen through something better. Whatever it is or may be, it's subtle (to me, on these phones, very subtle!). I guess you bumped the level on the P but as you say that's not the point or issue. This needs to be thrown out to the wider audience. Liking the sound of the 44-64 neck, my fave. I'll be back later - off to listen for the Lakland 'bruising punch and drive'... on some bigger speakers

Don't think it has extract of peacock in it (so probably couldn't sell it in the EU). Made by a man who was formerly a gunsmith (and they knoiw a very lot about wood finishes, turns out). https://www.skeltonsaws.co.uk/peacock-oil

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Peacock oil would prob be ideal for that - very subtle indeed so tint build is really controlled. I'll give someone a nudge I do agree it would likely bring the subtlety of the eyes out a bit. Lovely lump of maple there, good birdseye is hard to find.

Fine pair Keen to know how you reckon the sound compares, as I feel very familiar with the 60s and 70s Fenders, but no experience with the Lakland. The one thing I get from a Fender P is a kind of punch / grunt that a Jazz never gives me. I've wondered about a Lakland for a while. I've heard the Fender P described as a one-trick pony which is not fair. I find if you back off the right hand a little, it also has a really clear but rich lower end with a warm musical top on it, not the high snap of a Jazz, a bit lower and more 'notey'. Sounds into words is tricky eh ?!

A while ago now, but I used Loja in Portugal - may well have the JAZZ as they have many lesser known: http://www.lojahmcustom.com/epages/960708206.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/960708206/Categories/"Decalques/Stickers" Quality really excellent, they sent me 2 alternatives without me asking. About a fiver each (second one they sent me was not charged), and arrived about a week. Recommended by me.

Easy. The 'get up and go to work' P BASS, a bit like what Scott's got in his mitts at the end of the vid. And the basses I'd walk right by (or take as a gift and flog, immediately): Fedora silly-shape; Alembic headlight, Hofner violin, EB3, and a few others I immediately forget. Hope that helps

welcome ! I have a be4 fretless, a few here have Mayones. Is it Bartolinis? Can't advise but don't sound right. One thing - I have found the guys at Mayones extremely helpful - I'd go straight to them - contact email on thier web, they got back to me within the day (I was just tracing serial no record on mine). From the spec and woods it should cut like a knife.

There's a 5 on the bay at the moment - BIN £160 or offer. Is it my eyes - looks like it's had the frets ripped out (no mention in description)... ? Near Oxford somewhere https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Classic-Bass-collection-by-SGC-Nanyo-5-string-active-jazz-bass-late-80s/223450917070?hash=item3406b668ce:g:Iv4AAOSwZ65cjgFn

Haha - I'd forgot, Jim did that didn't he? Our guy was called Keith and was not so much of a looker. Does it come with the territory? singer> frontman > showman > ooh, look what I've got > policeman... Now, about Squiers... I'm on the hunt for P Special, Squier or MIM. Any overstocks out there??

I declare I'm off topic now... but did I mention our band of quite some time ago, singer was good but an absolute nutter - got done for indecent exposure (and it was a fair cop). Not all, but some singers are a total PITA. I have a tale about David Coverdale (just pre Deep P) that further supports our joint case

Made some odd basses over the years, those Gibson blokes. How is it that the name behind legendary acoustics, the fine early mandolins, the Les Paul... could never come up with one single successful bass? I mean the EB2 has a certain charm, the T'bird is a conversation starter - but not one single smack-in-the -middle workingmans bass. Not one.

I can get that OK> sold, I may throw a set of Suns in but Fats sound my kind of thing. Plan a few sets shipped from the US - in for a penny, in for a quid.

Obviously a lot to choose from, and that's part of the benefit of going separates. Personally I'd look second-hand - that way you can sell-on and swap around at very little cost until you hit on a favourite. I picked up an as-new TC 250 for way under new price (thanks to BobbyD here) - I like it but if I didn't I could pass it on with only a small loss, like a tenner! Markbass do get good words, never tried one myself. Just enjoy the hunt and know it's like girlfriends - you likely won't marry the first.

Agree I'm afraid. I just went the other way. Good combos are quite heavy. I prefer the flexibility of separate amp/cab so I can make changes to either. Portability is easier I think - and designs are optimised, I mean a decent 112 or 210 say, is designed to be just that (you have 2 of them!). There are quite a few bargain used combos around and a lot have had bedroom use only, but the challenge is getting the amp and cab you want all from one maker in one box. Sorry, but I'd stick with what you have - keep one of the cabs and get one of the micro heads... go from there.

That is TASTY. Nice colour - looks dead original too? Just noticed they move the jack to make way for the 3rd pot. I do fancy trying a Squier P/J, the P bodied one whatever it's called. Could an owner tell me what to expect - do I get the split pup P sound, I mean P bass proper, then the added back pup of a Jazz... is it that simple, is it that good !!??

Reminds me of the truly awful budget basses around when I started playing (I mean frightful bad), and I'd have given a leg for absolutely any Squier - took me a long time to raise the cash for my first Precision. So we should judge in context - I think they are all shockingly good for the price, esp second-hand. I just wondered if some factory sources were consistently better. Seems not really, try before you buy is the message I'm getting.