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Really like the GP7 - plenty loud enough for normal work these days surely (days of massive backlines gone?) and I always reckoned the road to volume was more or better cabs anyway. The 7 band is really good - the frequencies are just right I think and I wouldn't need more. Like the 12 too of course, like them all really. Never tried a 110 but surely you'd need at least a couple? Would look fab, 2 of them with a 7 on the top. This thread is reminding me to try and get my old Twin Valve back - see if the guy I gave it to (yep, and it was truly mint) still has it.

I'm sure mine sat flush, but never removed them in all those years. Rick's Fine will know - personally I'd like them sitting flat but you could always compress them on so the indents form in the maple? Stunning work here. Reminds me again I shouldn't have sold my 64, but there you go.

wouldn't happen to be honey burst would it, rosewood neck, hailing from somewhere around Preston... I'd really like to get my hands on one, saw a review on YT and was impressed. Just hear good words about the Tribute 2000. Another accident waiting to happen I suppose !! p.s. agree a passive pull would be nice, but I do like the logical EQ, unlike all the switches on the M2000.

Just found this thread so sorry if I repeat anything (it's a long 'un). Right up my street this is. My long-term P was a Feb '64 (L16277) so I know them well. The machines are flush, not recessed. I guess the wood may compress a little (although maple is hard stuff). I'm sure this is covered elsewhere, but is the neck to '64 width / profile? Re ageing, I agree with your early comments regarding 'relics' - My 64 was gigged / played a very lot and I came nowhere near wearing off the paint at the top (right arm area) yet I see relics where it's down to bare wood. Mine was Lake Placid blue, and now resides with the bloke from Status Quo. Ageing the s-plate may be fun. They turn a weird yellow hint of grey / green colour. It's quite subtle but held next to a new white one it's very noticeable - I guess it's UV, pollutants in the venues - surely not . May be hard to simulate but could try UV lamps?? Also they end up not flat, have a slight kind of unflattness over time, and the edges become slightly rounded/softened. The clay markers on the neck are important - someone here will know what to use to get that and they go nice n mucky. Obviously the finger rest in the correct (lower) location - or at least the holes in plate where it would have been (I took mine off). And the holes for the ashtray and pup cover. Remember the strap button on back of head, spaghetti logo. The neck varnish / laquer will need to be aged / yellowed. IIRC the tuners were nickel plated, distinctly different to chrome and nicer, plus they go dull where you don't touch them (i.e. tune up). sorry to ramble on and excuse any points already covered - I'll follow your very fine mission with interest. p.s. the laquer on the neck on mine was thin (from new I'm sure though I bought it later). I did wear through the back where my thumb rests. I'd say keep laquer on neck (including head) quite thin. Far as I know it's the 90s MIJ ones that have a thick laquer but certainly my 64 was so thin you could see the thickness of the logo transfer edge... if you follow.

I did wonder - even unplayed I reckon strings loose the top a little just through oxidation (or something sciency). But there was next to nothing in it for me, and I end up imagining I can hear differences. Applause for a '71 P holding its own against an expensive contemporary take on the original. Thanks again Sibob - informative and good fun. and I have some Precision news to share - I'll be along soon

something for the weekend?

(quoting myself now...) or it could just be newer v older strings. OK< Sibob, spill them beans.

Never really went for the coloured headstocks myself - it's good we don't all like the same one ! I prefer the dot markers (clay ideally so it turns mucky), and I think suburst suits well. Odd that I do like the Lakland briedge shape, many don't apparently. And then there's the neck, I need a 60's C neck. Basically I want the 1st or 3rd I owned years ago. I might look out for a MIJ. I think there is a problem with Precisions though - when you finally get a good one you have to stop buying basses, because there is really no point and also it's wrong. Like getting married. One. That's it. Mary J n U2 did the song, that's what it was about.

Listened to this quite a bit, different phones, then through amp. I reckon it's really close but I will go with Precision / Lakland / P / L. I think I hear a tiny touch more mid-top bite or attack on the Lakland (or what I think is the Lakland.) So really close, could be wrong. Interested to hear in due course. Both brilliant basses.

Time to commit. I'm going for P/L/P/L... To me it is really close and unless I was told to listen for 2 different basses, I'd not give it a thought. I think there might be a tiny bit more mid-high attack on the Lakland. Either way is very good anyway - if I was ever shopping for a bass at this level, I'd want to try the Lakland first, just because of the '64 neck profile which I am quite a fan of. Reminds me yet again what a phenominally good job Leo did back in the beginning. Was watching Scott's thing with Sean Hurley about session players using P basses, and how they fit the space between kick and snare - just all round excellence, the reference bass in my book. Excellent work Sibob, thanks from me 👍

This deserves a wider audience. Hidden away in the Precision thread about 16 pages down, I asked Sibob about the sound differences between his '71 Precision, and his Lakland 44-64. He went to the trouble of making an A/B demo track. So, here's the challenge. {quoting Sibob) *Use decent headphones/speakers* I'll let you try to decide in which order they go. The basses change every 4 bars. Volumes have been normalised as one was a fair bit louder than the other, this is a tonal comparison, not a pickup volume test. Both are strung with La Bella flat wounds, the '71 has 760FL, the 44-64 has 760FS ________________________________________________________________________________ Sometimes I think I've got it, then I get confused. I'm not done with this yet.

a thought Sibob - if anyone reckons they've cracked this, don't reveal just yet - this is FUN

Brilliant work Sibob Went to a fair bit of trouble there - much appreciated. I'm sure anyone here (or elsewhere) investigating the Lakland 44-64 and original Precisions will find this really useful. Having said that, so far (Sony mid-range phones) I don't know yet - I think I've heard a slight difference at the higher end but not commiting til I listen through something better. Whatever it is or may be, it's subtle (to me, on these phones, very subtle!). I guess you bumped the level on the P but as you say that's not the point or issue. This needs to be thrown out to the wider audience. Liking the sound of the 44-64 neck, my fave. I'll be back later - off to listen for the Lakland 'bruising punch and drive'... on some bigger speakers

Don't think it has extract of peacock in it (so probably couldn't sell it in the EU). Made by a man who was formerly a gunsmith (and they knoiw a very lot about wood finishes, turns out). https://www.skeltonsaws.co.uk/peacock-oil

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Peacock oil would prob be ideal for that - very subtle indeed so tint build is really controlled. I'll give someone a nudge I do agree it would likely bring the subtlety of the eyes out a bit. Lovely lump of maple there, good birdseye is hard to find.

Fine pair Keen to know how you reckon the sound compares, as I feel very familiar with the 60s and 70s Fenders, but no experience with the Lakland. The one thing I get from a Fender P is a kind of punch / grunt that a Jazz never gives me. I've wondered about a Lakland for a while. I've heard the Fender P described as a one-trick pony which is not fair. I find if you back off the right hand a little, it also has a really clear but rich lower end with a warm musical top on it, not the high snap of a Jazz, a bit lower and more 'notey'. Sounds into words is tricky eh ?!

A while ago now, but I used Loja in Portugal - may well have the JAZZ as they have many lesser known: http://www.lojahmcustom.com/epages/960708206.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/960708206/Categories/"Decalques/Stickers" Quality really excellent, they sent me 2 alternatives without me asking. About a fiver each (second one they sent me was not charged), and arrived about a week. Recommended by me.

Easy. The 'get up and go to work' P BASS, a bit like what Scott's got in his mitts at the end of the vid. And the basses I'd walk right by (or take as a gift and flog, immediately): Fedora silly-shape; Alembic headlight, Hofner violin, EB3, and a few others I immediately forget. Hope that helps

welcome ! I have a be4 fretless, a few here have Mayones. Is it Bartolinis? Can't advise but don't sound right. One thing - I have found the guys at Mayones extremely helpful - I'd go straight to them - contact email on thier web, they got back to me within the day (I was just tracing serial no record on mine). From the spec and woods it should cut like a knife.

There's a 5 on the bay at the moment - BIN £160 or offer. Is it my eyes - looks like it's had the frets ripped out (no mention in description)... ? Near Oxford somewhere https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Classic-Bass-collection-by-SGC-Nanyo-5-string-active-jazz-bass-late-80s/223450917070?hash=item3406b668ce:g:Iv4AAOSwZ65cjgFn

Haha - I'd forgot, Jim did that didn't he? Our guy was called Keith and was not so much of a looker. Does it come with the territory? singer> frontman > showman > ooh, look what I've got > policeman... Now, about Squiers... I'm on the hunt for P Special, Squier or MIM. Any overstocks out there??