Steve Browning

You can't beat a Browning!!

Ok. Maybe my own knowledge of the Tariff makes navigation easier. Unhappily, that's the future the majority wanted.

Do you mean commodity codes? The Tariff is available online and not difficult to navigate.

The spanner in the works is that this is how it has always worked for second hand goods from outside the EU. It would be unfair not to treat EU countries in the same way. I would be doubtful it was considered as any kind of negotiation point because it's the same in either direction. This is certainly a situation where the result of Brexit is detrimental to people buying second hand goods from the EU or selling to people in the EU. I don't think it's a political statement to say that we musicians are adversely affected by the changes. Maybe the rules will evolve over time. We have the regulatory right to change whatever we want to, of course.

All goods require a customs declaration. This records the value for taxation etc purposes. The sender will complete it. Customs don't check everything but if you pay 300 quid for a Fodera and it ends up being confiscated at Customs then you don't seem too clever. In my VAT man days I saw it all the time. People who thought they could outwit the system. Some succeeded but the vast majority didn't.

Hold on, you're not Mick Mason are you? He's also an unapologetic fraudster.

Of course they will. Well done, you're a criminal mastermind.

There is a £39 limit on gifts it turns out. Your wheeze won't work. HMRC know the value of stuff. Some of them are even bass players. It's infuriating but inevitable.

No problem and other people have also contributed. It's all going to be difficult to begin with. Carrier business have had little practical guidance and HMRC are nowhere near ready. It's going to be very messy. The biggest difference will be in second hand stuff. That is now subject to VAT where it wasn't before. New gear from businesses will cost more but not necessarily a huge amount.

It's still fraud. No other word for it.

No business will agree to that, it's fraud.

My reading is that GB exports to NI and vice versa. Guidance was issued just yesterday. Check the buying from EU sellers thread. The last few posts address this.

Not sure how many music shops operate the scheme.

There are a number of margin schemes for different businesses, from antiques to holidays. The everyday evidence of this is when you buy a car and trade in your old one. There is specific wording on the invoice. Gareth beat me to it!

They come with a padded gig bag. There is a footswitch that will handle the channel switching if you want to do it on the fly. There wasn't a 2x15 when I got my cabs but they're a great pair.

The table of cab impedances and amp settings is particularly welcome I expect.

...; and so it begins.

UIK businesses with significant EU activity are going to be seriously affected for some considerable time, it's a plain and simple fact. The company I work for is a multi-national (but UK based) we will be pretty much cutting the UK adrift and maintaining an EU subsidiary to deal with any EU trade (of which there is €millions). We already have subsidiaries in a number of EU countries but I have nothing but sympathy for your friend. Our head of logistics has just tested positive for covid, too, just to add spice to the mix!!

I sit corrected.

For Thomann maybe (and at the moment). Not every site is the same. No need to be quite so aggressive about it. Actually, Thomann won't maintain their UK registration as it's a result of distance selling and that only affects the EU. Shall I underline that?

Plucked out of the air to give a comparison, hence it was the same in both examples. Import VAT is charged on the delivery cost too.

That is distance selling. It is an EU thing so Thomann will no longer have a UK registration (eventually).

Yes. I suspect there are some corpses revolving at a much faster rate and a good few have slowed down!! 🙂

Buying from Thomann, from the UK will result in a VAT free sale from Thomann. Your bill from HMRC (before they release your goods to you) is 20% UK VAT on the combined cost of the goods plus any shipping charge. There will be a small additional charge for providing this facility. Let's take an example - a £300 bass (net of any VAT). £300 + £25 delivery = £325 + £65 VAT plus £10 (at a guess) for using the facility. Your £300 bass is now £400 Before Brexit you would have paid £300 + £60 (UK VAT) + £25 delivery = £385.

I read this to mean that NI buyers will be charged 20% UK VAT. The second sentence suggests it works in reverse too. I believe (note the believe) that the minimising business impacts refers to a VAT registered business being able to use postponed accounting (charging the VAT themselves and claiming it back). Private individuals do not have this facility.