Burns-bass

It’s good that people get passionate about this stuff. I know Tony only wants to protect people from spending lots of money on something that may not be as original as it seems. I think we’ve all seen vintage dealers use duplicitous tactics and falsely advertise items they should know aren’t right. Sadly, this genuine lack of clarity about dates and so on enables people to present items that may be fakes and claim they were production anomalies or all original when parts have been swapped. I see the expertise here a way to counteract that and prevent it happening. To anyone outside, the idea we’d argue about the originality of a heavily distressed paint job or the dates on a $1 pot that was designed to be replaced when it inevitably fails may sound mad. But we’re all a bit mad.

It’s a real shame it’s gone this way (and also a bit sad).

This isn’t the experience I had. I messaged Alex for a replacement 10” speaker and he sent me a link within about 3 hours. Perhaps there’s a difference between the 10 and 12 drivers but I wouldn’t expect so.

What a shame. Im guessing an experienced luthier (and I use the word here properly) would have the means to extract the wood. The f holes are large enough to get the wood to a position where it could be cut and extracted. Similarly, I’m pretty sure a luthier could easily knock up a new support. The issue is what would it hold against? I’d message Gollihur and ask them what they suggest.

You’re absolutely right here, but I think Hell’s point is that they’re not always listed completely honestly. I can’t remember what page it was, but I found two of my previously owned basses for sale. None of the changes was listed, despite all being pretty obvious to anyone with a bit of knowledge on Fender basses. There’s plausible deniability if you sell on commission. But wilful omission is still mis-selling.

I can see that. I have an old one somewhere, maybe I’ll give that a try. But this is brand new so happier if it went to a good home (or even and average one).

It’s a small one. I guess I could give it a try. What would be the benefit of doing so?

I have been given one but I have no need for it. Happy to send it on to a good home for the price of postage...

What the guys here are saying is that the orchestral scores are all written to suit instruments tuned in either Bb or Eb. Basses are tuned in C. I assume you’re the only bass player but there are lots of brass players (or the band leader is one). Basically, changing the key makes it easier for them to play. The other potential reason is that the singer(s) have requested this, but first explanation the most likely.

Whenever I look at your website I realise what an incredible thing the internet is and how cool some people can be. I've just downloaded Robert Hurst's bassline for Autumn Leaves and will enjoy the half an hour I spend with it.

Not if its been used for 3 months. In this case, the shop would accept the guitar back as faulty and expect a refund from the manufacturer.

I’m trusting that the OP has kept the phone up to date. If it’s a simple comparability issue, then fair play. But it seems that the software won’t work depute an OS being the latest version. Maybe there’s a simple explanation here…

You can return it if it doesn’t function as it should. This isn’t the same as not having a cable or suitable device, it has ceased to operate and is faulty. Record everything and continue as you are. If you get nothing back from then consider a small claim. Trust me, Andertons won’t want this and it may “encourage” them to do the right thing. That being said, I’ve only ever had good service from them and I’m sure it will get sorted.

Probably only a few instruments a year sell for that price but that’s a fraction of what a top-end violin would cost you.

Yes, I think this is the gold-standard of testing (that you'd expect on a bass of this value). If you're spending £100k on a double bass, it's normally supported by an independent valuation from an authority like the Martins. In the vintage world, you can get this from Gruhns I believe, but I'm sure there are others out there that offer this. My question is why you'd overspray it and who would do it? Is it something normal people did in the past to protect a degrading finish or a duplicitous trick by rascally vintage dealers?

How does this work and who would have done it? I'm just curious at what point someone would choose to remove a clear coat and then apply an overspray. Was this regularly happening in the 80s or something?

Totally get it. What's fascinating – and reassuring – is the way that the group here can provide insights, experience and opinions that I'd hope any buyer would find useful if they were interested in buying the bass. I've hd ots of help from people on here about basses, double basses, amps and powered speakers that have really helped me.

Yeah but it looks like the screw heard have been snapped off. Crazy time the 60s I guess.

I'm not sure I buy this idea of Fender as some sort of mad professor., or penny pinching stooge. Anyone who has worked in factories or with factories (my dad's job was work flow management and production process design, so I have heard a lot about it) you're going to tool up for specific jobs. It would make no sense to have two concurrent processes in place. I'm sure there are anomalies out there, but this was a professional factory knocking out a lot of instruments not an artisan workshop (despite what the myth makers would tell you!).

And this is what I don’t have the vintage bass fever anymore.

Excellent advice, thanks. I used to be a teacher so I’m trying to both remember my advice and follow it myself.

I wouldn’t buy anything of that value without absolute certainty of its originality, so I completely agree! In the end, I could never justify this for an instrument like this. But it doesn’t stop me looking.

I had the same experience. They’re a successful shop that knows what they’re doing. Be good if they were all as forensic as Andy Baxter I guess but they have a much larger stock and faster turnaround

I think he’s just excited about getting new bass. Ive owned one of these and I really liked it. I know Simon who does the setups and I’ve played a few at his place. Really like then.