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3 hours ago, Downunderwonder said:

The joys of saving heaps by slicing up a small plywood chunk into pieces and screwing together a rock solid board.

Indeed

I used spare kitchen units, door stops for feet, even old vinyl floor tiles for covering etc - rock solid, cheap as chips

1 minute ago, tegs07 said:

 

Yep I can confirm that they look great together. Borrowed one recently and am now in the process of migrating to New Zealand so I don’t have to return it...

I have family there too to hunt you down....

On 25/03/2021 at 13:58, PaulThePlug said:

How nice would this look with that Carbon Status neck thats currently listed?

Too rich for my blood... GLWS

I can tell you it looks an amazing combination 

https://www.instagram.com/tv/CM4oSyunmjt/?igshid=1si5mpnjr7cqe
 

Holger being a dude again

17 minutes ago, Al Krow said:

It's ok gents, you can stop fretting about the power amp capability on the DG M900. It doesn't cause me any concerns at all that I have plenty of headroom when using either my 8 ohm BF BB2 or 8 ohm fEARless F112. (And heaven forbid, I might even take them both out together at some point in the future...) 

We ain’t fretting sunshine  (we are Fretless) just chatting about amps and cabs correct specs and capabilities for everyone’s learning and benefit whether they are existing owners, past owners or potential owners - nowt wrong with that 

22 minutes ago, Al Krow said:

Nope - 300W at 8 ohms is my preferred min. The M500 should handle that easily give it's 500W at 4ohms. But I'm not complaining about having 900W at 4 ohms on tap!

Aren’t your cabs for creative home use and gig rig both 8ohms so you never get the full 900w? (Or 1Khz full blast)

7 minutes ago, Al Krow said:

Nope - 300W at 8 ohms is my preferred min. The M500 should handle that easily give it's 500W at 4ohms. But I'm not complaining about having 900W at 4 ohms on tap!

Phew thank goodness for that, good job it’s not listed as having 250w at 8 ohms then......

13 minutes ago, Al Krow said:

One thing I hadn't clocked was that the 500W versions are not just a cut down power amp of the 900W versions, but are also a little more compact (which I'd view as a plus) and have dispensed with a few "nice to haves" present on the 900W versions: the M500 only has a master volume in place of both gain & master on the M900, just one DI out instead of both pre and post DI out options, no midi connectivity or no separate volume control for the headphones. 

So they are differently spec'd models and I guess the price differential between the two starts to stack up, although tbf I suspect I'd be entirely content with the 500W version in place of my 900W if I had got my hands on that instead.

@NancyJohnson are you finding any difference to having the dUG in the fx return to putting it into the amp input?

Does that no go against your minimum headroom rule?

1 hour ago, NancyJohnson said:

I've had a fairly decent noodle on the AO900 over the last couple of days and it sounds pretty nice in isolation, but I was working on some new LS stuff and thought, well rather just try and record, I'll play along with the stuff that's been sent over, but it's been a real struggle.

It's pretty easy to dial in a grindy tone, power/dirt, but the dUg just sounds so much better to my ears, so for now, I'm back to the dUg into the effects return.

Come on @Tech21NYC give us a nice loud dUg (or Ged) in a VTBASS 500 size box.  You know you can do it.

It’s the difference between DG drive which is close but no cigar and Tech21’s drive like the dUg which nails it.

Here’s something for you, you could maybe make your own enclosure!

3 minutes ago, Ghost Rider said:

Yeah I’m after a jazz neck too. I’ve got a nice jazz body & some 62 RI Tuners so I’m on the hunt for a nice neck then it’s good to go!

Yeah, the 6 to 8 week wait is a bummer when your waiting to get a build done!  

They are so worth it, as are all status necks

18 minutes ago, Ghost Rider said:

They do a jazz neck as well mate. Might be worth dropping them an email incase they have one in stock. 

Cheers buddy - I already have a jazz one on a build and have a body that I know wants one - I am just playing the procrastination game and making excuses rather than just getting one.

Seeing one readily available similar to this would be harder to resist!

If this had been a jazz neck it would have gone to me

GLWTS

Lad done well

46 minutes ago, ezbass said:

I’m looking at one of these as there’s a new edition out now and the original mini is reduced in price. I’m not really looking to program stuff, just to have a decent beat for practice and possibly use as a basic backing for recording with some fills & transitions.

It will do that in spades 

Great score - I nearly had a Godin Shifter - 3 pick up one - won the auction, seller refused to sell to me despite being no reserve price - oh well - always liked Em and my guitarist had one, lovely instruments 

1 hour ago, Grav said:

The Darkglass Super Symmetry setting (SYM on the HL)

It’s a decent Comp the SS -the BUS on the HLis the best one though

43 minutes ago, Al Krow said:

That's not a bad approach to using the comp. The fact that it has some form of metering, albeit pretty limited, is definitely helpful. But at the end of the day it's a one knob compressor (which @51m0n would regard as being the devi'sl spawn and has gone on record, saying so) and I personally find that the make-up gain over compensates for the amount of compression resulting in an overall increase in volume as you increase the compression levels, which you then have to "un make-up" elsewhere. The comp is outside the AO circuit and so available for your clean sound, if you want it, which I suspect for most folks will be the more common use. There's a fair bit of compression in most drives anyway but I guess you can always double-up to further increase the sustain if this appeals and probably no need to faff adjusting it down mid-set when you switch from clean to drive given that the drive will, in any case, dominate the more subtle impact of compression.

There was some suggestion that DG had included a Hyper Luminal "Lite" as the compression circuit, which does get a lot of positive reviews from users elsewhere.

So looking at what we've got included: it's essentially got a Hyper Luminal Lite(?) compressor + AO Ultra preamp + 900W class D power amp + footswitch in a pretty handsome package with DG's reputation for build quality. And if you can pick one up used for a decent price (which I was fortunate to do), you're not going to be doing too badly at all. Unless, of course, you really don't like the AO drive tone, in which case you'd probably be better off spending your hard earned cash elsewhere.

Hyperluminal has 3 compressors on it - which one is it on the amp as a lite version?

I will defo add a couple-people may or may not agree with my liking though!

Interestingly from what you said, do you keep your gig stuff in storage not in the home?

If so it’s a cunning ploy to avoid the Mrs seeing how much gear you have!

Sounds good

look forward to hearing some samples

1 hour ago, Al Krow said:

Speaking of plugging a Tech 21 pedal in the front of the M900, just been doing that with my VT Bass DI.

With the setting I've tweaked it on (which I've dubbed "bass sheen"), it seems to be delivering that coveted complex harmonic "tube" sheen, that I've seen promised by the likes of Lehle Sonic Spark, and getting my gigging rig as close to the sound of my home rig as anyone is likely to notice in a live mix. So that's a particular box finally and happily ticked.

And on the subject of 6 band EQ, hats off to DG for their choice of centre points at 80Hz, 250Hz, 500hz, 1.5kHz, 3kHz and 5kHz - a very decent selection!

It’s good that you found the sweet spot. You’ve had both amp and pedal for a while and no doubt been playing with them for a while - what was the Eureka moment?

What particular settings and any recordings to share?

1 minute ago, Reggaebass said:

Hi mcnach, I did get a solo and your right it is a nicer bit of kit, I’m still experimenting with the track/bass recording levels, once I’ve sussed that out it will be better, I’ve been recording using headphones as suggested in another thread, can I ask, when you play back your recording do you play it through your rig or do you use powered monitors from your solo 🙂

When i play back after doing levels i try to do a mix of headphones vs some form of speaker to get a flavour. Remember what the bias is on your headphones when you are setting levels or you could be setting your levels not quite right.

I think ultimately speakers should be the final listen and say so on how it sounds

9 minutes ago, Al Krow said:

Yup, but you don't need to do that!  And certainly not what I would be doing. 

Simply plug the dUg or any pedal in at the front end and you can entirely bypass the AO 'module' (it's clear from the circuit diag in the manual) via a panel switch or footswitch. So you still have the benefit of the 6 band EQ.

Are you on the same drinks as @NancyJohnson and started reading manuals........it’s not even April!

15 minutes ago, NancyJohnson said:

Let's nip things in the bud here!

I don't want to go back to a full rack again.  No point.  Did I mention I had an MRI on my back three weeks ago and I have a touch of arthritis in L1-4 vertebrae? While the dUg amp is/was tempting, it cost a fortune, so while the AO900+dUg combination is a little less easy on the eye than the racked dUg, I'm still £600-ish in on the deal.

I do think it would be dreamy if @Tech21NYC (I'm gonna keep tagging them and I'm half a bottle of a delightful red in on an empty stomach, so blurgh) would consider doing a small, loud head with dUg (or GL) built in.  The Darkglass is dreamy from a size/weight/output/portability perspective, but right now, it's not doing it for me as a standalone unit.  Too many basses, active/passive etc.  At some point, I might see if I can emulative the dUg tone and then things will be dreamier.

Right.  I really need to take my contact lenses out, cook dinner and crack open another bottle.  It's Saturday.  I've been a good little worker bee (and I deserve a gold star).

 

Go and drink some grape juice - you deserve it

Honestly not racked the dUg amp is easy to move around - I used to sling it in a Fusion DJ mix bag.

The rack case I have is the Gator soft one which has an extended handle and so you wheel it like an overnight bag/suitcase/carry on luggage on an aeroplane.

Super easy.

The DG in any format will never hit the Mark, it’s drive is not set up right, there is something not quite there about how it comes out,  I know why but that’s a whole other conversation. Even their X7 which tries to do the dUg cant.

I di pretty much recreate the dUg sound by other means (not heavy) and if you wanna have a throw ideas around then gimme a nudge.

29 minutes ago, Al Krow said:

Well it obviously depends on what folk are after. 

As I've pointed out a couple of times previously it offers 900W at 4 ohms and decent 6 band EQ. 

If the combination of headroom and EQ flexibility are important criteria in your amp choice then it will trump a lot of others, which don't match it. 

If you have different priorities, then I'm sure plenty of other amps will be fine. 

Thanks 

I know it has a 6 band EQ, and I know how it works having had the amp and various other DG products and of course the combination is good, but you specifically mentioned the power amp trumping others out there, that is what I am interested in and was hoping you could shed some more light on