Pirellithecat

Thanks Phil. Interesting! Notwithstanding the difficulties of capturing the sound and playing it back via Headphones, there do seem to be some differences. The first piece of music was surprisingly "close" between the 745's and the Evox, but the Wishbone Ash piece seemed to more clearly show the differences. For me the systems using the subs were less coherent and more boomy than the 745's. The EVOX, when the full band/vocals were at full flood, just fell apart in terms of the treble/mid presentation. For me they produced an unpleasant, congested sound in those sections. Probably my ears and the capture on phone, or expectation bias. I heard a set of the Evox's at an outdoor gig being played pretty loudly, and, to my ears, they sounded very wearing/unpleasant. That's a pity because they would be ideal in terms of transport and stage set-up.

How'd it go? Be really interested to hear

I'd be VERY interested to hear the comparison!! I'm "involved" in a local music set up which hosts about 6gigs per year. "We" have recently moved to a DM3 which I'm getting to grips with. Sadly I can't borrow it to try with my band. I very much like the "Hybrid" nature of the DM3, its size and most of its function (that I'm familiar with so far🙄). It would be a great replacement for the mixer I use to gig most weekends (size/quality/functionality etc.) but it's probably too expensive. If the A&H range compared well I'd probably bite the bullet and go in that direction.

Clue in the name? 🤣

Me too - accentuates the "smaller" body , looks great! Just in the middle of refurbing one of these and might well go in this direction.

Thanks - I still have your PA books!! I'll visit one of your upcoming gigs and return them. We have a couple of weeks "off" so I'll keep an eye out. 🤞👍

Great ...... is there a "write up" anywhere ......... might be of interest to the OP? I have an "impression" of the LfSys Monaco and the BF Big Baby, but otherwise I haven't heard the other options.

In terms of lightweight cabs, Does anyone have experience of using similarly configured Barefaced/GR Bass/LfSys cabs. It would be very interesting to know if, and how, they differ in terms of sound characteristics. If they do have a "Character" how does this differ between them? It's pretty much impossible to compare how they sound in the same place with a similar head (and Bass?). So a little insight would be very helpful in making a choice. Hmm ...... maybe at a Bass Bash .......... Doners bring cabs etc for a "face off" Blind if you like ...........

Thanks everyone. Maybe I'll have another go and see whether fiddling with the Bass controls does the trick. Otherwise I might consider a Boss GEB7 so that I have an alternative tone option without fiddling about when playing ..........

Thanks - I'll have another look. I don't count the Compressor the tuner or the freeze as "Pedals" per se. The Compressor is just on and if I had an amp with a decent one in it I'd get rid. The tuner ?? probably ditto, and the Freeze ... well it's not really an effect - just lets me avoid having to get sustain by shaking my bass in front of the Cab ........... . So really it's just Drive/Octave (and sometimes) Chorus. .......... But i might need a pre-amp to switch between basses/finger style/Plectrum .............. Hmmm. 🤔

OK - Had a look at some of the TC pedals - going to need to work out which might work ...... suggestions welcome. But - having read the "Vocal Mixing" thread, it seems that a digital mixer is essential to enter this particular playground ....... (and the cost of getting a couple of pedals etc. takes me closer to the ££ needed to upgrade to a digital mixer, without giving me any more Aux outs or more flexibility in terms of gates, EQ, or FX). But will my brain adapt ..... 🤔 Stimulating stuff!!

Currently🤭it's my Sandberg VM4 into ABM600 into BF Super Twin via Boss Tuner, Empress Bass Compressor, POG Micro, Big Muff , Freeze Pedal.and sometimes a EHX Chorus Pedal. When funds allow looking to swap POG for OC5 and the Big Muff for something else.

Thanks for the comments - appreciate them. All our Facebook vids are taken from mobile phone clips - just a bit of EQing and cutting down to size. So a bit "limiting" in terms of quality - the timing often sounds "out" due to saturation/clipping of the phone mic - we're probably going to try to use a Zoom recorder in future ..... but the venues don't really lend themselves to having one "out front". I'd never noticed the "off axis" comment re the Mic .... I'll pay more attention!! Hadn't thought of a limiter either - I was kind of gravitating toward dynamic compression. I'll check out the "detuned delay" - I've no real idea what that is - is it "a thing". These are probably reasons to move to a digital mixer too? The drummer also sings, but because of the feedback issues, he's reluctant to do too much and tends to be a bit quiet which is a pity as his voice is very complementary sound to the overall vocals - quite rich/mellow. The overall sound is getting better gig by gig - often informed by comments from this forum (and Mics!!). But we still have a way to go!! So do keep suggesting improvements!! Thinking "gates" and better EQ on monitors/FOH, plus more flexible effects/compression ..... etc etc!

Must be "my" technique! But I can't get a Duff McKagen sound to work next to a James Jamerson sound without a considerable amount of EQ'ing - and I'd rather have some kind of "pre-set" to avoid long gaps between songs. Yeah ..... another toy😂

Starting to use Pick on more songs in our Set - varies from Fleetwood Mac to Guns 'n Roses and everything before and after! Pick use associated with greater use of Drive (currently Big Muff). Suggestions for a pedal to allow quick change between styles ??? (and maybe replace Big Muff?) I'm guessing something like a Sansamp VT Deluxe, but is there something else to consider? (Amp is Ashdown ABM600, bass varies from Sandberg VM4:Sire V5: PBass).

` 2 Gigs in 2 days and best sound ever!! (helped by vocalist's dad's ears in the audience!!). Still work to do on the tendency for "brightness" on female vocals when at "Full Bore". But otherwise ...... no feedback, great sound on stage, much better sound out front, REDUCED stress = better playing by me and much more fun! The secret ....... IGNORE all helpful comments from band members (except can you give me more "x" in monitor), just nod sagely and do what's best!! Organiser came up at end of second set and asked us to play for another 45mins!! so must have been good!

😭 Some ignorant fool snug in and offered them £800! And they sold it ......... I tried offering them my 1200 CD's PLUS £405, but they just wouldn't see reason. Can't trust anyone these days ................

Partly because Lee doesn't really let Cicci get a word in edge-ways! Rather tragic how little self awareness people have!

Steady .......!