JohnDaBass

How do I see/download/access your summary Al Krow? Sorry I'm a such a dope!

Thank you Jus Lukin for your valuable contribution.

Like Al Krow I'm on the same learning curve, eager to broaden my knowledge and open to receive guidance from the more experienced and knowledgeable amongst us! So the optimum HPF settings on MS-60 B & B3 / B3n winner is------?

So we can ignore everything below 20Hz as amps range between 20Hz to 20KHz. Are we all agreed that the amp and speaker will NOT be "trying" to deliver anything below 20Hz? ( so not sapping energy) If so what we need now is a shoot- out between 1) PEQ 2) GEQ 3) LO EQ 4) Ac Bs Pre. And the winner is------- ?

I play in a function band and a Pub rock band. The function band demands quite a wide variety of bass sounds and to deliver those sounds I have created a very flexible pedal board. I wish to create a much smaller pedal board for the Pub rock band. I want to use my "new" Zoom MS-60B to provide and replace a tuner, Thumpinator and TC Spectra Comp and then into my Tech21 VT Bass DI. So I end up with two pedal boards. So the main reason for being so inquisitive ( Pain-in-the-Backside) is to grasp whether the PEQ on the MS-60B can get close to what the Thumpinator is doing. So my current understanding is that I should set up two or three PEQ in series with the frequency set at 25Hz & 20Hz with Q set at around 4. This would give a " notch" centered at 25hz & 20Hz and the Q of 4 would produce a notch width of (maybe?)+ 10Hz - 10Hz . I would in effect being cutting frequencies from 10Hz to 35Hz. As Al Krow correctly pointed out to me the Thumpinator is set to 30Hz so I am possibly 5Hz higher. The rest of my rig is a Mesa Subway D800 and one or two Barefaced Super Compacts. The reason for the Bright Onions switch is to allow me to feed my bass signal into the front of the Mesa D800 via the BD I21 ( for boost mid song) and the Tech21 VT Bass DI Deluxe into the AUX in of the Amp. The Mesa D800 has a fixed HPF in the preamp which is why I only use the Thumpinator after the BO Switch and into the Tech 21 VT Bass Deluxe then into the AUX IN of the Amp. The Aux In signal is inserted before the Master Volume control so it is simple to balance my sound between the Mesa Preamp and the VT Bass DI Deluxe. The setup enables me to have seven ( plus boost) pre set analogue sounds all accessed via the footswitches. I know it's NOT a HELIX but it really suits my needs. Sorry for the long explanation but I just wanted to get my dumb questions into some sort of context for the "Clever Ones" amongst us who help so much in broadening our understanding of what we are all trying to achieve.

So based on Al Krow experience should I setup three PEQ patches in series set at 20Hz, 15Hz and 7.5Hz ? Would that over lap work as a HPF Set at 39Hz as per my Thumpinator? Should the Q value be set at the mid point?

Al Krow, is the PEQ patch, that you identified as a suitable HPF, availabe on the Zoom B1 & B1xon? Does anyone have a Zoom B1 or B1xon who would be kind enough to check & confirm?

John can also help on tailoring the right type and value of capacitor to achieve your desired tone. Great guy!

Kevin, Now you have got the speaker out of the cab, and with your trusty cordless screwdriver to hand 😉, you may as well line the inside with some acoustic furry stuff to dampen the cab even more!

Very true Stevie! If you add a TC SpectraDrive DI or Mesa Subway Di you have a very nice setup with all the sounds you need at a reasonable price. Hopefully the reviews will be positive.

I like the look of this SpectraDrive, it has everything I need and with the flexibility of the Toneprints it could be a real answer for my needs. If it had a HPF built in it would be perfect!

+1 for what Pete said the Genzler Magellan is a very flexible amp with two switchable channels. If you want a broad range of tones from modern to olde school the Mesa Subway D800 fits the bill and if you'v got a few more pennies to spare the Mesa Subway D800 + adds variable HPF and great mid control. If you prefer home grown amps the Ashdown RM 500 or RM 800 gets lots of love around here!

THREAD DIVERT ALERT! Isn't 'FOUNDATION' a wonderful word to describe all things Bass! I remember during my youthful years in the late 60's VOX produced a range of bass amps and cabs called Foundation. A bassist hero of mine at the time used a Vox Foundation amp and cab. The amp was 100w (?) and the cab was an open back 1x18. My hero was such a heavy percussive bassman that he removed the top and bottom rear panels of the cab and used to hammer 6 ins nails to nail the cab to the stage floor to stop the thing from bouncing around and (sometimes) OFF the stage. Oh happy days ! Those dark times before HPFs!! Enjoy your new bass Shaun!