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[quote name='Bigwan' timestamp='1494942848' post='3299807'] Can anyone suggest something like this that DOESN'T need the full version of Kontakt (HOW MUCH?!)? Have a few songs that could benefit from these sort of sounds. Total newb at this sort of stuff though... [/quote] I believe there is a free sample player knocking about on the web that might load Kontakt libraries and patches. IIRC, Dad3353 has this, so he would possibly know more about it. Hopefully he will come along, if not PM him.

[quote name='Mcgiver69' timestamp='1494931683' post='3299636'] [b]- Sennheiser [/b][b]Drumic'a[/b][b]:[/b] This is free drum kit that uses Kontakt, this won't stop after 15 mins like most free Kontakt libraries. It is a whopping 9gb but sounds great and you can select among 3 mics to tailor your sound. Can be bussed too. Website is in German so you'll need Google Translate, just register to receive your activation code. http://de-de.sennheiser.com/drummica [/quote] Ok cheers. Might check this one out. Regarding free Kontakt libraries timing out after 15 minutes. That only happens in the free Kontakt player, not the full version of Kontakt. Something to do with the vendor not supplying a license, and the reason I think, is that it will cost them a fee to Native Instruments for a license for the player version, but not the full version. EDIT: The reason this VST has a license/activation code is, it was given away with a magazine or maybe a small fee originally .....But anyway, free now for both the NI samplers. Thanks for the link.

[quote name='Bilbo' timestamp='1494913450' post='3299443'] I did my Jazz East gig last Sunday with harmonica player Adam Glasser. I just got this feedback. 'Dear Rob, Thanks once again for inviting me to play - you are my absolute favourite group of musicians for a listening supportive musical jazz experience, getting together on spec!' How lovely!!! Makes it all worthwhile. [/quote] Great stuff !! Adam is a lovely player and that tone is just beautiful. His Piano playing is pretty sweet as well.

[quote name='Rich' timestamp='1494796316' post='3298624'] I played on the same bill as Brotherhood of Man a few years ago. The two girls were very nice and friendly but one of the blokes was an incredibly rude and arrogant **** and, having been there for their soundcheck, I know exactly how much of their live sound is actually on their backing tracks... [/quote] Haha... It used to be all live, full band, along with some extra instruments on click track (IIRC). I did a few gigs on Bass with them (Cabaret gigs at Butlins/Pontins). Yes, the girls were lovely. But like you said, the guy in question, could be a bit, lets say.. overzealous on occasions. (But generally ok)

[quote name='Steve Browning' timestamp='1494841004' post='3298826'] My Dad was also an Archer Street chap! [/quote] You more than likely know the history, but still a good read. http://www.muhistory.com/from-the-archive-4-archer-street-london/ A marvellous, short documentary and a get together. http://youtu.be/U2Esuz5CnAc

[quote name='Steve Browning' timestamp='1494834811' post='3298752'] I can recommend the George Melly book 'Owning Up' as a brilliant first hand account of life in a band in those days - and the opinions of other musicians to those in the Jazz/Rock'n'Roll world. [/quote] Yes, a really good read. I am 60, so not quite a relic from those days. Although, my dad often talked about his days of 'real' musicians and 'Rock & Roll' players. My dad was an 'Archer Street' chap, and unfortunately, there was some MU and big band snobbery towards the young whipper snappers. In fact, I quite often heard my dad's mates blaming the Beatles for the Big Band decline.

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[quote name='Buzzy' timestamp='1494774979' post='3298437'] Hi Basschatters, has anyone got a transcription of Bob Babbitts bassline for Freda Paynes Band of Gold ? I need to learn it by Saturday for a party. thanks Buzzy [/quote] Here is another transcription (more than likely came from Talkbass IIRC) - Just Notation . When downloaded, change the file extension to pdf, otherwise it will not open. Hope this helps.

Here is a chart with Notation and Tab for folks who want that instead. It's been knocking round the net for a while. Not checked it, but I seem to remember that it's ok. It's easy enough to work out if there are any mistakes. (Not sure who did the chart, someone over at TalkBass ? but of course, credit to him/her). http://www.punkjob.com/BandOfGoldBassG2.pdf

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[quote name='Dad3353' timestamp='1494715618' post='3298141'] All except one; the winner..! [/quote] By a country mile as well. Super writing and arranging. (IMO of course) Graham Norton...oh dear....

[quote name='chris_b' timestamp='1494676078' post='3297772'] Since the 60's and the demise of dance bands, the MU's condescending attitude to any of the popular forms of music and the world the guys playing it inhabited, ensured they had limited relevance to any musician born after 1945. They were a necessary evil in the old days if you were trying to work in "official" and "traditional" entertainment, ie TV, studios, theatre and foreign tours, where they had things tied up. Even if you were a member, have a dispute with anyone they didn't recognise, like most managers, agents, record companies, pubs, clubs and venues that weren't unionised and they were at best disinterested and usually useless. A lot of the West End pit guys quit (80's or 90's can't remember) when the MU did a deal (against the wishes of the players) with the theatre owners to allow digital instruments into the shows, thus putting lots of players jobs at risk. I was in the MU once. Only because it was a requirement for the tour. Apart from the insurance they are an expense most musicians don't need. [/quote] Regarding the 80/90's, Chris b, It was a little more complicated, along with a few other factors as well. Interesting read here about that period. http://www.muhistory.com/contact-us/1971-1980/ Funniest part of the MU - The annual Diary !! The Nokia or Motorola hastened the demise of the public appearance of that diary. You waved the phone around rather than the diary Then there was the Union Card. When presented, you got good discounts getting into Ronnie Scott's.

[quote name='peteb' timestamp='1494665390' post='3297660'] beat combo! .[/quote] M'lud.

I did professional (Theatre) Pit Shows and backing (TV) turns for over thirty years. MU (or SOLT/MU) contracts/agreements where essential to us (or through the fixers that fixed us). Guaranteed holiday pay, porterage, overtime, get ins, travel when not in the West End, rehearsal fees, any TV or a Radio advertising sessions, PD's when overseas, sufficient accommodation rates when needed, xxx amount of paid notice when show closed..etc.. Only had to use them for legal reasons on two occasions and both times came out on top financially. MU handled everything. Of course, there was also the musical Instrument insurance along with favourable deals with certain companies, regarding car insurance (insured as a musician was rather expensive with most companies). I am not a member anymore as I don't do that kind of work anymore.(Although they did contact me just before Christmas to say they had some repeat TV fee money for me that they had been holding for a year or so). Most of my work these days is PRS and PPL related, so different types of contracts/agreements needed. Depends on gigs/ work you do, but I suppose it is still useful. The Insurance related and public liability deals must be worth it. The problem with gigs, functions and MU contracts, is getting all parties involved to agree and sign them, especially anything overseas.

[quote name='lowhand_mike' timestamp='1494492302' post='3296399'] would someone who works in the cells at a police station be a custard then? [/quote] Quite possibly. In fact, that reminds me of that American geezer who made Strat guitars. If he had worn woman's clothing in his spare time, would he have been classed as a Leotard ?

[quote name='stingrayPete1977' timestamp='1494419787' post='3295794'] What does it matter who played on it, they're all unconvincing anyway [/quote] Yes, I know. I just can't believe the Barefaced cheek of it all. Tommy Cogbill did a lot of doubling between Bass and Guitar on his early sessions. http://www.allmusic.com/artist/tommy-cogbill-mn0000614771

[quote name='Geddys nose' timestamp='1494276766' post='3294686'] Carole Kaye was teaching guitar at 14 and played guitar on 'La Bamba' before turning to bass,Played both on a lot of sessions. Remarkable musician IMO. [/quote] I agree. Actually, on her a Facebook page(s) there is quite a list of her Guitar playing studio credits. The more I read about her, the more impressive it all gets. [quote name='RhysP' timestamp='1494268508' post='3294571'] And all of the guitar stuff apart from the solo. [/quote] (Regarding Steve Lukather) I always thought it was SL, but it seems session player, Paul Jackson Jnr, also played some of the Rhythm Guitar parts. [url="http://bobbyowsinski.blogspot.co.uk/2010/06/michael-jacksons-beat-it-isolated.html#axzz4gfUenUYy"]http://bobbyowsinski...l#axzz4gfUenUYy[/url]

[quote name='bazztard' timestamp='1494309846' post='3294788'] It's just banter, ever hear how guitarists put us bassists down? After 36 years I finally came up with an answer back to the "you only have 4 strings to our six" "Yes, but TWO of your strings are tuned exactly the same !" only took me 36 years, pretty quick eh? [/quote] If you are referring to two 'E' strings, you might have a 'Guitard' running off in embarrassment, but I am pretty sure a 'Proper Guitarist' will point out that they are not "tuned exactly the same !", but are tuned two octaves apart from each other. If it was any Guitarists I know, they would also point out you have wasted 36 years of your life. But, as you put it..."It's just banter", and if your post is talking about some other kind of tuning, ignore my drivel.

[quote name='xgsjx' timestamp='1494274927' post='3294669'] I'm sure there's Basstards out there too! [/quote]

She got fed up with The Crusaders, Steve Hackett and all above, she then thought she would give The Yellow Jackets a go. http://youtu.be/bJViwpo0KlQ

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[quote name='Mudpup' timestamp='1493760607' post='3290543'] Blondie.......wtf!!!!! not sure if that was just scary or embarrassing..... [/quote] I agree. Regarding having 'Live' musicians on TV is good. Of course, it's always good. But it's the nearly dead on that show that worry me. Although the JH show needs to stay, it is hit and miss regarding quality (IMO) but then again, everyone is going to have a different view, and that's good, ain't it ? I can always find something on the show that I like, or at least is acceptable.

[quote name='blue' timestamp='1494145114' post='3293534'] 64, no I have never gone through that process. I love 3 gig weekends. Blue [/quote] I haven't either.

[quote name='casapete' timestamp='1494140893' post='3293500'] Probably the king of the (mostly) forgotten art of rhythm guitar. Remember hearing 'Le Freak' on an imported 12" single for the first time in 1978 and being totally blown away by the whole thing, especially the guitar and bass. Was fortunate to see Nile and his band a couple of years ago in Leeds, amazing gig. Another 70's tune with great guitar was George McRae's 'Rock your baby'. Sounds deceptively simple but powers the song right through. [/quote] Agree, about the forgotten art. And yes, the Guitar playing on the George McRae track was great. It seems the track was put together in less than an hour by (some of) 'KC and the Sunshine Band'. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rock_Your_Baby Paul Jackson Jnr was a terrific rhythm Guitarist in that funky style. Dean Parks is another one with a great, distinctive Rhythm Guitar groove. Top, top LA session player. I knew he had done a lot, but his credit list is just daft. http://www.allmusic.com/artist/dean-parks-mn0000227159/credits

[quote name='DaveFry' timestamp='1494140723' post='3293498'] Here's an interesting video of a composer showing how he uses two slaves and VE : [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtBxZaUB8p8[/media] [/quote] Yes, his tutorial is excellent and for anyone new to VE6 Pro, definitely well worth a watch.