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[quote name='Bankai' post='1292910' date='Jul 4 2011, 11:21 PM']Will be in again on Saturday and Sunday this week if anybody fancies a noodle.[/quote] Hello mate, you got any Ovation 6 string guitars there, the good ones like the Legends or Elites, but not the Adamas? Couldn't see any on your website. Cheers, Nigel

Muting can make your electric bass sound more like a string bass, a sustainer can make you sound more like a keyboard. A normal electric bass with notes that sustain well is much more useful, generally, than one whose notes decay quickly. Depends on the style of music one plays. I prefer the choice and therefore will choose a bass that sustains better. I can mute if I need to with my hand.

[quote name='wateroftyne' post='1292789' date='Jul 4 2011, 09:55 PM']I disagree. Even if I put my slap-head on(!) I actually think he's a bit too busy.[/quote] Too busy for what though mate?

[quote name='AndyTravis' post='1292816' date='Jul 4 2011, 10:11 PM']Well, the guy in the video seems to enjoy the backing track, and I agree, he has 'that' thing down to a tee. Let me find a guy doing the line to 'Still Haven't Found What I'm Looking For' by Adam Clayton/U2, then we'll all meet in the middle in one opinionated mindf***. Who cares, I thought the guy can play slap, and I LIKE slap, which seems to be as bad as pretty much anything around these parts at the minute FFS, and yes the track is a bit 'not a real band' but I don't give a sh*t either way. The point by the OP was 'Nice Slapping' and I agree. If I hated slap I would have moved to the next thread, I post where something interests me these days, I help it saves time. In response to the OP, yeah, he's good eh?[/quote] I'd like to think of it as very nice [b]playing[/b], regardless of technique.

[quote name='thisnameistaken' post='1291590' date='Jul 3 2011, 10:47 PM']Taste is more important than technique, and judging by the majority of responses this man has very poor taste. Nobody listens to music because the musician has great technique, if the music is rubbish.[/quote] I would then judge the majority of the respondents as unable to judge taste. The player CLEARLY has taste, certainly in this video.

[quote name='Chris2112' post='1292697' date='Jul 4 2011, 08:53 PM']I read it up to that video where Deal was playing the bassline to some plodding rock song and trying to revel in the glory of it, despite it being so naff Adam Clayton would refuse to play it![/quote] It's just someone keeping it very very simple and uniform. Fine for some things but I would not want to make a career out of it, or tell other people they should.

[quote name='Pete Academy' post='1292707' date='Jul 4 2011, 09:04 PM']I thought he was great. The backing track was simply a foil for his slap playing, which was faultless. Let's give this guy some credit.[/quote] I have no idea why he is being criticised at all. He has clearly evident musicality in abundance - tonally, technically and emotionally. It shines out to me like a beacon. Maybe some people are unable to recognise it or something. Or just can't get beyond the genre. I personally found it inspiring.

I really like that! Very nice note choices and placement, good tone, very nice touch and timing. Composition is fine with some lovely rhythmic displacement. This guy knows exactly what he's doing and seems very musical. If I was auditioning bassists for jazz funk, he would get a very swift invitation. I so rarely hear musical slapped bass, that was excellent and I really enjoyed it, tasteful and musically very pleasing. Thank you

[quote name='Chris2112' post='1292693' date='Jul 4 2011, 08:50 PM']Who the f*** is Kim Deal? Oh wait, another dull thread about someone who doesn't like slap/can't slap.[/quote] You read it though and felt the need to contribute

[quote name='karlfer' post='1292690' date='Jul 4 2011, 08:47 PM']I don't like slap. Nowadays I play in a pub covers band. All Right Now has a bassline punters expect so I am not going to do hammers, pulls, triplets, blah. We don't actually do All Right Now, but you get the picture? I am part of a team of 4 blokes that play gigs to entertain punters and ourselves. So, each to their own. PS Nigel, July 16th, 1 week Barbel bashing on the Severn . Karl.[/quote] Ah, sorry mate, I meant to respond to your comment on my other thread! You must be counting the hours man! Pictures please with your forthcoming 14.2

[quote name='Pete Academy' post='1292669' date='Jul 4 2011, 08:25 PM']Yep. I'm for any technique, but make it musical.[/quote] Precisely Pete. FWIW, you slap very musically, it's more for a little tonal and percussive accent.

[quote name='Marvin' post='1292642' date='Jul 4 2011, 08:07 PM']Quite right. That's the end of that then. Have you been fishing and did you catch awt? EDIT: how do you spell awt? Is awt? Or ought?[/quote] Not been fishing so caught nowt I'm actually attending an interview next week to enable me to fish this 250 year old estate lake. A good head of 40lb+ carp, very hard apparently but it's a beautiful place and not often fished. I am not allowed to say where it is, but it's not far from me so it's like a Redmire Pool I can fish regularly!

[quote name='thisnameistaken' post='1292268' date='Jul 4 2011, 03:11 PM']When you see bassists who haven't spent hours and hours working on fringe techniques like slapping become successful, are you jealous of them? Players who perhaps don't even practice at all, but they make music that lots of people love. I would imagine it's quite galling if you've dedicated hundreds of hours of diligent practice to techniques that you'll only get to show off on Youtube.[/quote] Probably quite unmusical people though aren't they, if that's what they feel they should practice? If they can not understand that technique and facility is rarely valued without a musical element? Most slappers and shredders I have seen on youtube simply can't seem to get past the motor skills element and into the MUSIC.

[quote name='Linus27' post='1291790' date='Jul 4 2011, 08:49 AM']Thanks for the replies guys, makes me wonder why acoustic basses ship with Bronze strings as standard. Clarky, thanks for asking. That would had been my next question [/quote] I like the La Bella black nylon tapes, very lively and deep at the same time. Good tension. Never tried them on an acoustic though. Edit: I lie! I did, they sounded deep but on my Washburn AB10, they seemed to sound quieter than the Phosphor Bronzes. Wonder why I forgot that :S

[quote name='thisnameistaken' post='1292549' date='Jul 4 2011, 06:49 PM']I know where you're coming from, and this wasn't really intended to be a discussion of Kim Deal specifically, but: I find what she does interesting because it's something I'd never do, and it works very well, and it gives the Pixies' sound an idiosyncratic angle. I wasn't suggesting that everyone should play like Kim Deal, but I do think if you can't appreciate why she was important to the success of that band then you're maybe missing a trick.[/quote] You're quite right I've heard a tiny bit of Pixies and I found them a bit dull and seemed to be a band lauded more for their lyrics and attitude by the popular music press. That's fine, but I have different tastes. As for jealousy, I am only jealous (to a small level) of musicians who had the determination and inspiration to pursue music relentlessly and who realised their potential early enough to develop their toolbox and musicality to such a degree that their expression on their chosen instrument has become tangible and almost effortless. I have a good level of musicality, but my toolbox is very limited due to the inertia of pragmatism, lack of confidence and general laziness. So I suppose I could be given to a little jealousy as a result of hindsight. I have never been jealous of slap bassists, I find it unmusical in almost all its varieties.

[quote name='Doddy' post='1292426' date='Jul 4 2011, 04:58 PM']I don't hear anything unique in her playing. What I'm saying is that simplicity isn't always a good thing if it's your only option-which from reading her article in Bass Player- it pretty much is. Yes..there are tons of players who can play very well technically and have played very simple basslines.[/quote] I reckon she might have nicked that line from Stewart Copeland anyway. He said "i'll show you something no other drummer can do" ad proceeded to play Dum Da Dum Da etc. for a minute. BUT, he can play anything and has the musicality and compositional skills to know what is right and when. It's also easy to be a 'melodic' bassist just by playing little scale lines under the chords, but it's pointless if you are not aware of why you are doing it and what the impact is on the song or section of the song. A much bigger challenge is to play bass for harmonic impact, where to put a note to accent a vocal line or even a single word, or a chord or passing chord. Then you get into timing, note pacing, space, simplicity, complexity, when to stick in that tritone, etc. Listen to Scott Thunes or James Jamerson and you might learn a tiny bit of that, listen to Kim Deal and you are doomed to mediocrity and guitarists telling you what to do. Develop your musicality and your toolbox, work the song not your bass.

[quote name='derrenleepoole' post='1292326' date='Jul 4 2011, 03:50 PM']I've just watched this, and while I'm no Kim fan, what she says is so true And yes, I'm guilty too [/quote] Mmm, I don't see why a bassist should do as she suggests, ie. don't get involved with the dynamics. The more musical and empathic your palette, the more musical you will be. I actually think she's talking a bit of bullshit. You should do what you think is right for the song and work it until it sounds good and wholesome. Nothing wrong with a broad set of musical principles that you you identify with, but what works for the Pixies wouldn't work necessarily elsewhere.

[quote name='cbarrowl88' post='1284551' date='Jun 27 2011, 08:11 PM']basically i tried out a Boss Bass EQ pedal earlier and loved the sounds of what you can make from it. but i want to find out if any other brand of pedals make a decent EQ pedal. does anyone own or have used a HARLEY BENTON BEQ-1 pedal?. i cant find a review online so i wanted to ask you guys. i found a behringer EQ pedal but have been advised that Behringer are not reliable.[/quote] Save up, get the Boss.

I sent this letter to Parcelforce after they bust a hardcase. They refused to pay up but they did after they received my letter. [url="http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=86842&hl"]http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=86842&hl[/url]

I get this with my index finger sometimes, exactly how describe, and I play hard live too. I wonder if it's a nerve being pressed upon by internal swelling or something. It's never lasted long and rest seems to make it disappear. I certainly wouldn't put a plaster on it, sounds like a disaster waiting to happen. Play softer if you can, try playing on the finger pad?

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[quote name='Blademan_98' post='1281540' date='Jun 24 2011, 09:23 PM']Didn't like it, sorry [/quote] Nor did I But the man is to be greatly admired.

Incredible stuff isn't it. He's a true musician, he's making his vision come true, and he knows what his vision is and how to make it reality. That's amazing given what his vision actually is!

[quote name='xgsjx' post='1281302' date='Jun 24 2011, 05:45 PM']I think that one is the DnB concept. Tuned A-C & independent octavers for each string built in (hence all the controls). One for Shep maybe? Oh, & it's a short scale.[/quote] That's the one Mad as a the pope's hat isn't it!