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[quote name='peteb' timestamp='1331488114' post='1573599'] [color=#222222]Because that is what works! Just listen to Led Zep, Rush, RHCP or any decent funk band - all different music but they all follow that basic principle[/color] [color=#222222]I am not disagreeing that the rhythm section should leave space to allow the music to breathe, but the basics are that the drummer drives the band and the bass player locks in with the drummer to create the groove…..[/color] [/quote] Wrong. And drummers do not drive the band. EVERYONE drives the band, including the audience.

[quote name='Jayben' timestamp='1331487955' post='1573595'] Indeed. But at the same time I'm still always overcome with thoughts of 'Well, is that bass line REALLY right for the song?' [/quote] 'Right' is a strange concept in music. You need to listen and think and come to the conclusion that 'right' is highly subjective. If it sounds good to you and your band mates, then you could consider it to be 'right' I suppose.

[quote name='peteb' timestamp='1331487239' post='1573578'] Some really bad advice here from people who really should know better! [b]The basics are that you play to the drummer; therefore all good bands tend to have someone behind the kit who has good time & feel - generally the drummer should dictate the pace of a song and assuming that he is playing a backbeat (i.e. rock, funk, etc.) then the bass player should lock onto the bass drum i.e. every bass drum beat should be covered by a note played by the bass[/b] King Billy is, as ever, quite right! But then again, it’s pretty basic stuff….. [/quote] I absolutely and fundamentally DISAGREE with what you said. That is such an unmusical attitude that I can barely bring myself to want to attempt to understand why you would adopt such an approach. :S '[b]i.e. every bass drum beat should be covered by a note played by the bass' [/b]This especially is sheer madness.

[quote name='discreet' timestamp='1331486871' post='1573571'] Nice playing. You're nearly as good as me! [/quote]

[quote name='jackers' timestamp='1331486725' post='1573565'] That is an awesome bassline Nige! I love it. I definitely agree that learning when not to play notes is just as important as learning when to play them. I've been playing for about 10 years now, and it is only really in the last year or so that I've started to see that I'm actually fairly good at what I do (without meaning to sound arrogant lol, ofcourse there is plenty of room for improvement). I mean, I'm definitely not a massively technical player; I can't play slap or play at ridiculous speeds, but I'm pretty sure I can write a bassline that compliments a song, and makes it sound more complete. I mostly play in pop-punk bands, so I see my job as holding down the low end and rhythm while the guitar(s) play lead melodies, and every so often adding some cool little fills and runs. To me, the most important thing is to have fun when playing and practicing, cos if you aren't smiling when you have the bass in your hands, then what's the point [/quote] Oh thanks mate! It was easy to write, because for so many years, I have made inactivity as important as activity

It's a nice song mate, ad nicely performed and produced, not really my CoT though, I just don't listen to music like this. I think the vid is ok, but I think I'd like to see a bit more creativity and panache. Good though mate, and congratulations on the Mojo mag exposure. And best of luck with the Paul Weller gigs at the Roundhouse!

[quote name='WalMan' timestamp='1331485889' post='1573536'] You needed to be at TM Stevens masterclass @ LBGS last Sunday. Preaching a great deal of the "believe in yourself" mantra. that I know I should pay attention to and not constantly do myself down [/quote] There's confidence and CONFIDENCE. I have seen some dreadful bassists with CONFIDENCE.

[quote name='Jayben' timestamp='1331484853' post='1573510'] I know I can play and I know can compose bass lines that will do, but I'm still fighting the urge to fill every possible subdivision of time with a note. It's also very rarely I can listen back to a recording and go 'yes, that bassline is finished.' I always think of other things I could do instead, or the next time round in the same tune or what have you. Out of interest, how does anyone else know when their bass line is 'done'? [/quote] Space is also a 'note'. Space is paramount. Space is 'music'. Space is as essential a musical tool as any musical note. Make space your primary consideration. Think of space as oxygen, when it's not there you can't breathe, space helps music breathe. Make space the essence of your musical decisions. Here's an example of how I use space when I write a bass line. [url="http://soundcloud.com/kit-richardson/you-always-did"]http://soundcloud.co.../you-always-did[/url]

[quote name='skej21' timestamp='1331483774' post='1573487'] By poorly modelling amps, effects and now live sound? I haven't used/heard a line 6 product yet that actually SOUNDS good. [/quote] Please expand on this. My bass and guitar sounds fabulous on my POD X3 LIVE. I defy ANYONE to be able to tell me, with evidence, that my sounds are not GOOD. Of course there are plenty of people who don't know how to programme good patches, just like there are people who can't set up their amp and bass and pedals to get a nice tone.

[quote name='skej21' timestamp='1331482896' post='1573470'] I'd have accepted if it was from ANYONE other than Line 6. Hype-merchants! [/quote] Line 6 ? They are helping to change the way music is made. They have helped make my musical life enormously more convenient, creative and expressive. Hype merchants? So what? There is hype everywhere. Hype is normal now.

Blimey, no wonder so many of you are still using Fender basses What is it with this inability to accept new technology and approaches?

[quote name='1SHOT1HIT' timestamp='1331479462' post='1573388'] I don't know, era uoy erus ? Could you read that with ease? You may be dyslexic. I've been using that screen name for quite awhile and never heard anyone say it was confusing at all. [b]However I can see where "CVNT" could be misused in this situation.[/b] [/quote] Sure you are

[quote name='1SHOT1HIT' timestamp='1331478836' post='1573376'] I'm afraid I can't help you with that, perhaps a forum for dyslexia would be of some assistance? [/quote] I am not dyslexic though. Some combinations of letters are confusing to the eye. My user name elicits similar confusion. So many people spell my user name wrongly, 'cvnt' being the most common

[quote name='Doddy' timestamp='1331478709' post='1573371'] Because lots of (particularly) rock players say in interviews that the bass should be 'married' to the bass drum....I'm looking at you Billy Sheehan Consequently,a lot of people think that if the bass drum is playing a dotted quaver- quaver-minim pattern then the bass has to play the same....it doesn't. [/quote] Maybe that's why so much rock music is so bloody dull.

[quote name='1SHOT1HIT' timestamp='1331478314' post='1573363'] Well then it's definitely not mint, this is white I mean it's a 50 year old white but definitely white, nothing green about it at least not from what I can tell. [/quote] I keep reading you user name as 1SH1THOT.

[quote name='flyfisher' timestamp='1331465696' post='1573091'] Yes, that's a fair point and I know what you mean (I think). I may not be explaining myself very well. Perhaps the problem is that the drummer is following me rather than being in the driving seat? I've not experienced this before and it doesn't feel comfortable. [/quote] Mate, is there a reason you think that a drummer sets the pace?

[quote name='icastle' timestamp='1331451617' post='1572885'] +1 I was trying to explain this in another thread recently, albeit without drums. There's always 'something' there to lock onto, you just need to be aware that some things work better than others when it comes to maintaining the overall 'feel' of the tune. [/quote] I sometimes find that the thing to lock onto is not even audible, it's the FEELING of pace and rhythm that the ensemble generates. When all the musicians feel it, it's the sound of unity. Nothing and everything is creating the pace and rhythm. It just flows. It's like leaves falling off trees and landing on the ground at the same time. Lovely when it happens. However an inexperienced musician probably needs something audible to lock onto. Gawd knows why so many bassists seem to think it's the kick drum though. It's really so far off beam, and I think it really shows how limited these bassists believe their compositional role is.

[quote name='jezzaboy' timestamp='1331396271' post='1572359'] Best gig I ever played? The next one I play hopefully! Jez [/quote] You have a very f***ed up philosophy of time my friend

[quote name='Gust0o' timestamp='1331321025' post='1571484'] I was longer than I thought. Boom boom. [/quote]

[quote name='xgsjx' timestamp='1331382708' post='1572117'] A bloke down the pub said that Spanish speak spoke "z" as "th" as in "chorizo" (which apparently is pronounced "choreetho"), so it must be true! The name "Ibanez" is Spanish & I've read in tha past it being pronounced Ee Bahn Yes, Ee Ban Eth & I Bun Ease. However, as some might not know, Ibanez isn't a Spanish company (shock, horror)! Although the company started off life as a book shop owned by Hoshino Gakki & became an importer of Spanish stringed instruments from a luthier called Salvador Ibáñez. In the late 50s Hoshino Gakki then went on to make copies of guitars under the Ibanez banner & then in the 70s designed their own instruments (after a lawsuit from Gibson). So are you saying that it should be pronounced "ihb - an - ess"? & more importantly, has anyone told Steve Vai? He pronounces it Eye Bun Ez. & is it Gibsun or Jibsun? [/quote] Depends where in Spain it is pronounced.

[quote name='BigRedX' timestamp='1331390737' post='1572265'] Thanks! [url="http://basschat.co.uk/topic/7919-how-was-your-gig-last-night/page__view__findpost__p__1572160"]We did[/url]. Sounds like yours went well too! [/quote] That's great to hear mate! Yes, we had a splendid night, great crowd too!

[quote name='BigRedX' timestamp='1331385594' post='1572160'] Another cracking gig for Dick Venom & The Terrortones at the 12 Bar in London. Played really well, except for the new song that we're currently using as a set closer - must practice it some more. Pretty good sound on stage and everyone we spoke to said it sounded good out front. Our drummer brought his own stands this time so there wasn't too much kit rebuilding going on during the set! Sold a whole load of CDs. Back in Nottingham before 4 in the morning. Happy. [/quote] Excellent mate!

We had a splendid gig at the Good Ship in Kilburn! Kit had a bad throat so wasn't talking much and had her head buried in an electric steamer most of the time before we went on, when she wasn't necking Kahlua with ice We played a blinding set, probably our best technically executed set ever, and the vibe was wickid! Great crowd too, and a lot of them. Happy Jack and Paul the Drums turned up unannounced and that was lovely! 51m0n came up from Brighton too, thanks mate! Can't wait for the next one at the Half Moon in Putney!

[quote name='Gust0o' timestamp='1331391274' post='1572281'] Confession time: I can't slap. [/quote] If you can't slap you ain't worth a f***

[quote name='Doddy' timestamp='1331390360' post='1572253'] I don't think that's a particularly bad thing. I often hear someone play something that I can't and want to be able to do it,so it gives me the inspiration to sit down and practice until,usually,I can. Done right,judging yourself against someone else can really help to improve your playing. [/quote] This used to happen with me a lot, but it's very rare now. I'm fairly happy with my technique for the most part, what I love to work on is my compositional personality, and much of that can be done by thinking. I find that I can't play a lot of the ideas I come up with and that is having a very good effect on my developing personal style and approach. And as time goes on these two elements reinforce eachother. So I'm developing my skills and my compositional approach is feeding off itself. I actually feel I'm developing a style and approach that I can truthfully say is my own. I'm nowhere near as influenced by other players as I was a few years ago. That's something to be very grateful for.