Al Krow

My pedalboard recently developed an annoying whine. The cause turned out to be the Roland midi cable plugged into my FI which was picking up interference from my underboard PSU. Midi now unplugged and the whine is gone, so I'll just connect up the FI to my PC for downloading software updates and patches and leave disconnected at other times.

Have to you agree with you!

@dave_bass5 you really liked the BB425 a LOT when you first bought it off me and it was probably the main reason you went for the P34. Having had both now for a few weeks, seems from your comments above you're starting to lean more towards the P34, particularly in a band mix? It was a no-brainer for me, in that I immediately preferred the harmonically richer tone delivered by the BB1025 over the 'flatter' 425 P pups so held on to my 1025 as a mainstay gigging bass. The P35 is, for me, a refined 1025 and I like it a very great deal. I think you touched on this same point, when you said your P34: "...never had such a perfect tone from a P bass. In fact I’d say there is a bit of that jazz snarl in there, and that's just from the neck pup." @AndyTravis - just following up on the neck shimmy discussion above, is this something you've done on your Yammy BBs?

"Sounds big" "Punches through your standard function set" Yes, absolutely! Screenshot of Nathan playing his BBNE2 from the following gig with Eric Clapton in Tokyo. Treat yourself to a listen through a decent pair of headphones

Sounds good! But is it as 'musical' on SSR? Tbf in terms of 'musicality' which I suspect could well translate into live usability, the Ottobit seems to trump the rest of the field. The Red Panda offers a choice of three waveforms. Not sure either the FB or the Scrutator does? Although the LP/BP is a nice alternative feature.

PJS = PearlJam ('r') stinky poo/superb (??) PJs = pyjamas Oh dear, this is going rapidly off topic...😁

MHS = matching head stock headstock BHS = British Home Stores (now defunct) NHS = National Health S😂ervice Just in case any of our international BB players on this thread were wondering...

A really useful post on another thread, that I've taken the liberty of reposting here:

So you're selling your red 424 and want to replace it with an orange BB. Couldn't you just leave yours in the sun for a couple of years to fade instead, while you travel around the eastern home counties brandishing a Status?! 😁

In terms of all the well known 'kids on the block' - this is not a bad summary of the options:

The Red Panda and both newer (6 knob) and older (5 knob) model Frantabit also have expression pedal control; with the newer model 6 knob Frantabit having enhanced expression control. Not sure that the Scrutator has a jump on either of these pedals on that score? But the Malekko does win on price! Scrutator - around £189 Thomann Red Panda Bitmap - £229 G4M IE Frantabit - around £240(??) imported from the US? Did you also go for the Mooer? Have you been able to put it to good sonic use?

Arriving late to the party in terms of getting a dedicated bit crusher, having made do with my Zoom MS-60B. Have also gone for a Mooer Lofi as an entry level dedicated pedal - it's a bit better than the MS-60B, but not massively so. Useful to have pointed out to us that knobs seem to be labelled the wrong way around on the Mooer: The bit crusher (small knob) is not particularly useful - pretty much just adding white noise. The sample rate reduction (big knob) has a 'usable range' going anti-clockwise from 5pm to 1pm (any futher than 12 noon anti-clockwise and you rapidly get into a beyond human hearing frequencies). My own preference being in the 3pm to 4pm range which does add something to the low E and B strings But it has whetted my appetite for bit crushers! Clearly a lot of love for both the Scrutator and Frantabit on this thread. There was also one mention of the Red Panda Bitmap which does also look really good! Wonder how @ben4343 got on with his?

Here's my latest incarnation. 3leaf GR2 won the filter wars (against stiff competition from a MXR BEF and Fwonkbeta). My trusty little Valeton OC-10 and a TC Spectracomp have also both been moved on too as I'm using octave down a bit less these days having gone pretty much exclusively 5 string and the Helix Stomp providing multi-band compression should I want it. In their place a bit crusher (or more accurately a sample rate reducer!) in the form of Mooer Lofi and a Tech 21 Q\Strip (which was part ex'd for a Yammy bass). Board feels like it's taking on a more settled composition, although I suspect that the Mooer is going to be the start of a slippery slope for me into the world of sample rate reduction, which does sound pretty juicy on the low E and B strings! All currently still for 'creative' home use, with a little Zoom B1X-4 still strutting its stuff for rehearsal and gigging duties.

Very high current consumption on this pedal (compared to most) "Gets hot with long use" "Starts losing volume / cuts out" => sounds like circuits frying to me.

Here's what I posted on the Yammy BB mega thread when I first picked up a Nathan East in the Yammy store near Oxford Street in London. Yamaha BBNE2 (Nathan East) Wow - Warwick Streamer Stage II meets Yamaha! It’s a completely different beast to the rest of the Yamaha BB range. BBNE2 pups are stack type Alnico V Humbucker pickups include a hum-cancelling coil. This is combined with active electronics and versatile controls e.g. in place of single tone control on the BB1025, the BBNE2 has a 3 band EQ for bass, mids and treble; mid cut frequency & mid cut on-off switch together with the usual pickup selector and volume. In combination they deliver a wonderful, tonally rich sound (even through a 75W Hartke combo at the store!) which I’ll have to admit puts even my former Warwick $$ German Corvette in the shade. It has a contoured body which provides a compact, comfortable body shape and I found the neck to be very playable. Nice touches, which sadly aren’t found elsewhere further down the Yamaha range, include individual bridge pieces and 5-piece neck-through design (but both of which Ibanez provide as ‘standard’ in their BTB Premium range). I then had to wait six months for a mint condition used white NE2 to make an appearance in the FS, but it was worth the wait. It's an absolutely lovely bass; without doubt one of the very best I've had the privilege to play and to still own.

Oh dear, this is starting to look like a serious design flaw.

You do realise that this thread you've started is the MOST popular effects BC thread of all time in terms of replies? So you're defo going to need to get one Second most popular is the Line 6 Helix thread! Seems to me that Line 6 are doing something very right, although recent stories of a couple of the Helix / Stomp pedals failing mid gig are a bit worrying - the last thing you need when playing live particularly if you are going directly into FRFR. Hopefully this lack of reliability is just isolated and not the start of a trend...

Dave - really glad to see that getting your Yammy BB P34 has given you your mojo back!

Did you have the same thing as Lewis did on his i.e. the Stomp cut out mid set? Ouch! Did you manage to get to the bottom of why it cut out - a bit worrying given that your Stomp is practically brand new?! The Zoom boxes are very good value but none of the current production models (e.g. B3n, B1-4, MS-60B) have a DI out. Not had one myself, but seems to be a fair bit of love for the TC Spectradrive from one of my BC mates. This doubles up as a headphone amp with aux in and headphone out. Has the much loved Spectracomp on board + drive + 4 band EQ + DI out. New £137 and used around £90 to £100.

Comment on TB that's interesting on the power output: The GK 1200 would need two 4 ohm cabinets to get your 1200 watts since it's a a 2 channel amp, each amp producing producing 600 watts into 4 ohms (whereas the Bergantino Forte HP will give you 1200 watts with one 4 ohm cabinet since it uses a higher powered ICE module) Is that correct regarding the GK 1200 - if so it's definitely a point worth noting. Are the GK 800 and 500 also similarly 2 channel amps?

Final post on Grizzly Bass. YouTube clips for all of the following if you're interested in checking what this pedal sounds like:

Haha - don't worry - you're on my radar too, Woody 😂 I started a Yammy BB thread back in 2017. Probably the single most expensive thread I've been foolish enough to start...I ended up getting SEVEN Yammy BBs along the way!! (I still have 3 of them). Almost as many as that chap @AndyTravis...zero regrets though - they're wonderful PJ basses and a lot of bass for the money. And let's face it, you're entirely to blame for my love of Ibby SRs! Sounds like you've really been 'through the mill' over the past 8 months! Only suggestions from me are a bit of creative and GAS therapy: write a song and buy some gear, that you're gonna love having, to play that song with

Hah! They did sound good through a decent monitor, I agree. There's a white NE2 currently in the FS! Whatever you do, Tyler, don't ever try a Ken Smith...it will leave you with a sense of "Oh my gawd, can a bass really ever be this good?". Ok I appreciate that's a bit of Yammy heresy!! 😄

Well given that you started this thread, you're obviously obliged to get one! 😂