Al Krow

Thanks for reassuring vote of confidence on Gruv Gear - looking forward to getting mine more so now! 9lb 3oz should feel both 'substantial' but not too heavy - sounds perfect!

Thanks Mick - did you mean it that way around i.e. Yammy more responsive than the Spector?

With due respect Mark, you make more of your one bass than I do of my ten combined. No question. Hope all is going well down south!

That's kinda amusing. Well at least you know that I've got your best interests at heart with my earlier post i.e. I didn't take the opportunity to give my P35 a surreptitious plug! I guess part of me is hoping that folk will forget it's in the FS (which my head insists on it being left on) and I'll stick some flats on it and start using it as a goto gigging bass, which it truly deserves to be. @M@23 who had it before me had it set up beautifully. He's a pro bassist, so I would have expected nothing less! The reason for bringing Mark back into the conversation is actually a note forward to both of us - I'm hoping to get hold of a Gruv Gear Duo Neo strap shortly from @fretmeisterand, if it does the job I'm expecting it to, it will mean playing basses weighing 10lbs to 11lbs (or even heavier) should become a breeze and weight won't be a limiting factor in our choice of basses going forward.

Hmmm...not sure who the current BB 435 owners are, hopefully one will crawl out of the woodwork shortly and give you an idea on weight. There's definitely a step up in construction and some parts, plus higher end pups between the 435 and P35 which probably accounts for a fair chunk of the price differential, the rest would be due to more expensive labour costs of MIJ vs Indonesia and whether that justifies paying extra is a topic in itself. If you can, get yourself along to the Yammy store in Central London or one local to you that stocks them. Whether overall the price difference is 'worth it' will be down to individual preference. Personally I would be happy to pay the used difference in prices, but I'm far too tight on the purse-strings to buy a P35 new! FWIW - my advice would be to kick-off with a 435 and if you find you're loving it, think about getting a P35 down the line - you'll then be very familiar with the 435 and be able to easily tell whether the P35 justifies the extra spend.

Very true! Osiris possibly volunteering to take one for the team...so we can maybe get his thoughts post facto. I personally find it much easier to hear my amp & cab in a rehearsal than I do on stage** with my band and FOH PA plus monitors blaring for all the band members. No doubt the 'right' answer for that is to move to IEMs, but that's a whole 'nother topic! 😉 I've always valued having a bit of headroom with my amps and my D class head isn't exactly heavy and I can always turn it down! Trouble with just having 45W on tap is that if you find you need more oomph, you're out of rope. Have to 'fess that if I wanted something smaller than my DG M900 as a power amp I'd be thinking Baby Sumo. If I wanted a headphone amp (and I didn't have my Stomp) I'd be looking at the TC Spectradrive which is very well featured and has aux in. But hey, that's just one BC'ers view. **actually tbf that's less true with the F112 cab which was as clear as a whistle.

Just two Wals - quality over quantity!!! Jazz 5 will be from which maker, if you don't mind my asking? Those Marleaux basses do look really good, although I've never had the privilege of playing one. Saw a couple in the FS and you know how it is with creeping GAS, it gets you in the end... 😄

I think he’s either referring to the number of gigs he's doing in the next three months or the age of his mistress 😁

So close...

Agree with your second sentence, but not your first. 45 watts at 4 ohms wouldn't be heard on stage in competition with a drummer - a point I see that BassManG has also made above. But as what? It's not a practice amp without a cab and there are better headphone amps out there e.g. the TC Spectradrive. I'm still struggling to see how this is going to be used / what the point of it is!

Woody - great initial summary you posted earlier! I don't think I've got much to add at this stage (still playing catch up), other than developing one of your comments, which I've quoted above. As you say, the Tone (Rate) knob adds a whole additional layer of variation to each of the 121 settings. I'd say this inner dial gives more variation than the outer 'depth' ring which seems more like a 'fine' control whereas the Tone is more a 'coarse' control. As does the depth knob!! So there are probably more like 400 to 500 700 to 800 distinct sounds available from the SY-1, which is a fantastic amount of versatility. But given the tweak-ability of the pedal it won't take forever to work through and it will be fun, rather than a PITA doing it. Totally agree that making notes is going to be key. Should be possible to devise an usable shorthand between us, I'd have thought? Something on the lines of B4.6.3 = Bass (type) variation 4 with Tone dial at 6/10 and depth at 3/10 Btw - appreciate that you're not going to be making much use of the Bass type from your comment - me on the other hand, I made a beeline for it! With the dry dialled down and the wet fully engaged you can get some pretty speaker blowing DOD Meatbox emulations going - definitely 😈

45 Watts at 4 ohms though? I'm struggling to think what gap this would be filling. If they could ever get this up to 200W and keep to pedal board size. How could you see this being used?

Probably 'cos it wasn't being played on a gig? 😄 PS glad you edited that last post, first time I read it, I thought what is he on about?! 😁... Now makes complete sense.

Not at all!! I'm having a complete "I agree with Mick day today" 😀 Surely we and nobody else, other than maybe our other halves, get to choose exactly what we do with our own bass gear? Dunno about you, but I find it incredibly patronising when folk think they have a right to say "you need to be gigging X, Y or Z bits of your kit to get the best out of it", or "it's pointless having that pedal unless it's being used in a band mix." If you or I want to enjoy some or all of our gear in the comfort of our own home, to put to one side for a season while we get on with other bits of gear or none, IMO that's our choice. Other folk can do exactly what they like with the gear they've spent their hard earned cash on, where and when they use it or not at all - that is entirely their prerogative and not something you'll ever find me proroguing.

Sounds good! Look forward to it!

Completely fair Mick - the 414 / 424 pups are indeed hot, something that many folk really like but it's not going to be for everyone. I always thought of Spectors' EMGs as having a reputation for meaty / punchy / kick-you-down pups. How would you compare the ones you've played to the Yammy?

Cheers - that very much stacks up with the general sentiment about the Sad from the rest of this thread i.e. that it works well in the mix and perhaps 'better' than when played solo at home. I haven't quite worked out from the earlier comments whether that means it 'sits well' in the mix like P basses or 'cuts through' the mix due to mid punch or some lush mixture of the two!

Fair! My Ibby SR regularly gets commented on for its looks, although I guess I've grown used to its appearance and am therefore always a little surprised that it seems to be head-turningly cute as far as other musicians and audience members are concerned! A bit like Dave, I rarely get comments about bass tone or the sound per se on any of my basses, because in my case it's just part of the mixed 'band sound'. Although I get regular positive feedback about the bass playing and the band, which is, of course, really nice to get. What is it specifically folk are commenting on about your Sad and are the comments from other musos or 'general' audience members?

Same with my Yammy BB You've got a fair point though Dave... which is that it's surely about the player and much less the gear. I suspect Chris could make most basses sound really good.

A few changes on and off my board, since my last post on here a couple of months back. Final piece of the jigsaw, the Boss SY-1 arrived earlier today and is sitting snugly in it's place, giving my board a smug 'finished' feel to it (famous last words!) The SY-1 tracks like a deer hunter. I'm venison-ly happy 😊 For any of you interested in the signal chain, it's as follows: BASS ‘Clean’ input Smoothhound (wireless) Thumpinator (hpf) Becos Stella (comp) Boss SY1 (synth) Early mid-board: drive / fuzz Grizzly Bass (analogue) SA Aftershock (digital) Mastotron (gated fuzz) Red Ripper (ungated fuzz) Late mid-board: filters SA Manta (digital) 3Leaf GR2 (analogue) End board: modulation / delay Digitech Mosaic (octave up) HX Stomp (multifx +DI +headphone amp) AMP Total power draw, excluding the Stomp which has it's own PSU, is 1.3A and all powered by a MXR IsoBrick under the board.

Playing catch up with Woody, but mine's also now arrived and is sitting snugly on my pedal-board, which is kinda feeling finally there or thereabouts - famous last words I know! Initial impressions of SY-1 are very positive - can't believe how well this thing tracks! And just like the three Ibby SRs I now have in my herd, this particular pedal is a result of another Woody thread. ZERO complaints from me, though, about any of that!

If you want one in black, there's this one for a similar price from eBay. It's slightly more compact, but consequently potentially more prone to being kicked over than Dave's! Add another £5 for a TRS cable, in my case.

Finding this cable a bit noisy in my signal chain. They're about £11 new, so seems a shame to chuck it away - one of you guys with cable making kits may be able to put to good use for parts. Drop me a line if you want it and I'l pop it in the post to you. Cheers AK