Al Krow

+1 ^^ both to congrats (they look fantastic) and to trad P vs reverse P config question!

Oooh that is a sexy pic! Mine will have had two years of being regularly played and won't be anywhere near as pristine as yours. On the other hand it will have had free A.R.E. (Acoustic Resonance Enhancement), resulting in "outstanding tonal balance and eliminating the harsh edge common with younger guitars" which Yamaha would charge me an arm for if I had bought a BB2025 (the leg is for the I.R.A treatment). In other words it will at least have been "played in" 😁

Excellent - did you manage to get it for a similarly good or possibly even better price? I am hopefully taking delivery of mine tomorrow morning, when I have arranged to meet the seller...I've had a slightly wicked thought of dropping the PG and just leaving the black PG screws on the satin black body, but I've not seen that done before so no idea if it will look any good! In terms of pics - I won't need to upload a fresh one - it'll be exactly the same as I posted on March 2019. Back in Black! 😁

Cash is fungible 😁

Sold your Status for a...Euro LX Spector? Must be a Yammy player who doesn't know any better 😁 Congrats mate - and the EBS rig behind looks pretty awesome too!

When is your 735A arriving? I ended up agreeing with you that all my pro BB 735A arguments are very valid! Lol! And it's a fraction of the price of a Sandberg Panther Special whilst IMO sounding just as good! That all being the case, there really was only one course of action that I could validly take...

It's a good question. The reason that a lot of folk feel compelled to buy additional pedals is often to complement their multifx in areas where the multifx lacks the processing / emulation power to match dedicated pedals. The landscape changed with the arrival of Helix in what I'd describe as the mid-range price bracket i.e. between Zoom at the budget end and Axe and Kemper at the top end, and we saw a LOT of BC'ers offloading / downsizing their pedal boards as they were finding their Helix's getting close to their dedicated pedals / being perfectly "good enough" for a lot of fx. For me the obvious remaining gap with Helix where it doesn't hit the mark was with filter and synth - partly as it doesn't have a synth engine onboard (like a SA C4 or Panda FI does) but is only a synth emulator. But I've recently come across the Boss SY-1000 which plugs this particular gap and, when combined with the GK3 pup, could very well work as a stand alone pedal board for me. I'm guessing that the QC will be a level up further still from the Boss, but at nearly twice the price I sincerely hope it will be!

Yeah fair. Defo no need to go to any great lengths on this entire matter, I agree.

Please refer to @dave_bass5's post above. He summarises the subject very well. It's where the truly wise eventually end up. Either that or playing short scale basses. Sometimes both. Obviously the Zen Master level BCer will dispense with the mundaneness of normal bass rigs and flourish with FRFR.

Perhaps we could compromise by saying it wasn't going to scale any great heights?

I don't want to come across as being short with you about this, but may I politely suggest that whilst you would be generally correct, you aren't here in the context of Snow White and her 7 trusty axe men? Or perhaps more appropriately put as "Ms Snow-also-colour-ly-challenged"?

It deserved to be a short thread. I couldn't ever see it reaching any great heights. Btw - please use the term colour-ly challenged in relation to our humour, going forward.

If you're including 210s and 212s in the mix, then there's Vanderkley 210s and Berg CN212s to include in the mix. (Sorry 😁). Blooming good pieces of kit! If you could get yourself to Bass Gallery in Camden they usually have a great selection in store. Q for the TC boys - I'm assuming that the RS cabs are a step up from the their speakers in the BG combos?

One of the very best cabs I've had the privilege to own and play and certainly right up there in the top bracket of 112s. On for a very good price too! - I'm tempted to get it to pair with my existing F112, but I really can't justify it.

Yeah agreed - there are a couple of octaver-up threads where it would sit better on. Feel free to move them to there if you think better suited. I'll see if I can post a link to one below. Here you go - this even has @AJ567's Sub'n'Up toneprint - so is exactly the right place to port the Mosaic and Sub'n'Up related comments to (the discussion started with BB's comment on Sept 27th about 8 string basses and extends to the next couple of pages on this thread). I guess the connection is that a USP of the OC5 over other OC2 clones is its ability to provide octave up.

I've had a listen to the 3 clips you've posted of 8 string basses and they're all fine - nothing I particularly dislike about any of them! So if your Sub'n'Up clips come close, that works for me. You don't need to do a side by side comparison as such - particularly if you don't have an 8 string! Just record a clip of the Sub'n'Up in octave-up mode in your favourite tweaked setting. Hopefully not too difficult.

I'm just looking forward to hearing your (or any one's!) SnU octave up clips on bass. Load 'em up when you can 😊

Tongue in cheek, my friend. It's what we Brits do! You'll get used to it...well after a few decades, haha! The clue was in the smiley face 😉 But I'm less interested in hearing clips of 8 string basses, that doesn't tell me anything really. Much more interested in hearing the SnU being validated with my own ears. A sound clip is worth a thousand words! Really quick and easy to do if you have a looper pedal? Besides it was your suggestion to share clips in the first place wasn't it, if you scroll back?

Do you have any clips of your fav tweaked SnU octave up? I've shared one for the Digitech Mosaic. If the SnU is comparably good, I'll happily invest in one, but so far Mr @Baloney Balderdash has only come up with dare I say...baloney, with no dash of evidence to back up his claims! 😁

Thing is, a decent 112 that delivers the quality you're after is not necessarily going to be that cheap, and I'm not sure that there is going to be much in it between what a decent 112 puts out and what a 210 can deliver, volume wise. Must admit my steer would be to recommend sticking with the TCRS210C you have, particularly if you like it, as I suspect you may be disappointed with some of the more budget 112s in comparison. If you're looking at fat a*rse lows & crisp sizzling highs in a 112 you're going to be in Barefaced BB2 territory IMO. One in the FS for £600 and, yes, I'd be very happy to recommend it, but we're still not "budget" by any means! Having said that, I'm a massive believer in getting the very best cab you can afford, so I'm not being particularly helpful! The FRFR (aka PA speaker cab) crew may be along shortly with some recommendations which might provide a better combination of quality and price - although FRFR kit is not specifically tuned for bass guitar in the way that bass cabs are, and typically you would want an active FRFR speaker, which is effectively a combo.

But here's the thing - do you actually want more sustain when playing a P pup? Or do you end up with a dog's dinner on your NT table?