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I went the Hotone Ampero II stomp route after having two failed attempts at the HX stomp... the touch screen and rotary knob combination works like a dream and it's a real dark horse when it comes to sound quality with more DSP on tap than the stomp (although certainly more limited functionality up to now). I think if i'd have been aware of this unit, I'd have given it a shot over the Ampero in honesty, it seems to address a lot of what I see as shortcomings on the Ampero (4 x FS vs 3, Clear indication of what each FS is doing being the main ones after a quick look). What an aesthetically great looking bit of kit, too!

I've no idea, Al! I chose the NUX as I'd had a generally good experience with the 2.4 system. I LOVE the rechargeable case that charges the units in storage, I enjoyed the cable tone and ease of use, and hadn't noticed or felt any latency, which is good enough for me! 🙂. The case was as much a deciding factor as anything though

I definitely wouldn't expect to get sense out of me! I just know it's the only drop out I had with them, and it happened after I had to move closer to the standing led light batons we use due to repeat stage invasions. There's every chance I've put 2+2 togethe and come out with 5... But there you have it! I wasn't using the IEMs at the time either... I'm a sucker for sales jargon, and NUXs website made their 5.8 system look better than their 2.4, so I was sold 🤣

This was an awful space to test these settings on haha! Hard rock cafe in Newcastle - big open room with tiles and glass, insisted we use their big speaker system which was a flying rig and too big for the room coupled with a sound limiter above the stage. Needless to say, not a lot of attention was paid to the bass tone!

I'll be honest, I wasn't aware of ANY of that, except for the less interference. I did think it was strange that people stuck with 2.4ghz when 5.8ghz was less congested! I had a drop out with a 2.4ghz set when standing next to some vertical LED lighting systems and panicked so swapped it out. I also use a 2.4ghz IEM system, so liked the fact that they wouldn't interfere. My transmitter tends to go in my back pocket, with my receiver in my pedal board on the floor and touch wood I've had no issues, although I'm likely to start panicking now haha. Appreciate the words though, great to have that info and no doubt a massive help for people who go down the google rabbit hole for wireless info in future.

I'm having great results with the NUX C-5RC set and an extension jack cable to plug it into. Budget friendly, 5.8ghz, sounds great and is really convenient to use with rechargeable case!

Pork and pickle all day! No contest. Best drive I've ever used, sold it on as it wasn't really needed and I was using when I shouldn't 🤣. If I ever get enough space on my board and need a drive it'll be the first pedal I buy. The clean blend isn't strictly clean, but what it adds is fantastic!

Wow! That sounds tremendous! Do you plan on using this live? I'm interested in seeing how your c4 matches upto the oc2 in live settings... I currently use a 3leaf octabvre mini for my octave solo'd and a C4 for synth stuff, but would love to free up the space (and funds) for a midi controller. Haven't got the bottle to try the c4 in its place though

So I followed suit; I duplicated my patches and exchanged the power amp for the ampeg svt model. Still through headphones, but it's an indication! It's made me realise that what I'd considered to be "tubeyness" on the Hx stomp version was maybe more bloated muddiness I was hearing. This sounds full-bodied without being bloated. Struggling to find a good 810 IR, and it feels wrong to use an SVT model without one, but I'm currently using the Tyler Spicer Aguilar 112 IR and it sounds great through cans. Excited to go FOH on Friday with it!

That's great to hear Stewblack! I tend to stick to either the orange head or tube Poweramp with no preamp. I may give the ampeg model a spin for the next gig! 🤔

Added a hotone soul press II, which will double up as a wah and expression pedal for the Ampero II once the TRS cable arrives. Planning on using the soul pess to control a volume pedal on the ampero II, and do a sort of manual tap tempo tremelo. If it works the source audio tap tempo button will be going; the tap tempo trem on my C4 just doesn't tap in as you'd expect, and we don't use a click so it's a disaster to keep it in time! The octabvre nearly went too, as the C4 does a fantastic impression of it! But I'll end up buying a controller with the proceeds to be able to go to that patch anyways, so may as well keep the 3 leaf!

That's a good shout! Strings made a MASSIVE difference on mine, the set that was on were awful!

The Aguilar tone hammer sounds good! I'm stuck between that and the tube power amp that's on there. Both sound great! No cab and no IR mode are both really useful, too! You can turn the cab sim or IR off for 1 output, and leave it on for another. No doubt the helix will follow suit, but sure you had to use a send block to achieve that on the line 6 gear

I saw that on a Facebook group! Exciting, although I'll admit I've found great results just using the tube Poweramp on there... I noticed it's listed as a drive, Id have thought it's be classed as a preamp! Hopefully they've modelled the whole thing and not just it's driven tones! Intrigued by the no cab function as well... It'll be great if you can turn off the cab without having to run 2 paths to different outputs or use send blocks etc 🤞

Pedalboard edit no: 1264902 Removed tuner, ehx hotwax, and nux MLD pre amp and replaced with the hotone ampero II stomp. Literally no reason for changing except gas and I really fancied the hotone unit! The NUX pre was fantastic, and I hadn't experienced any of usual issues. The hot wax has also become my favourite drive for bass, it's a brilliant pedal that's an absolute dark horse. If I didn't need the gated fuzz in the ultrawave, and all 6 presets in my C4 I think I'd have booted them instead of the hotwax!

Very true! I think I just need to learn to work within its limitations, a dual footswitch may be on the horizon... If you could mix the customisation of the hx stomp (individual parameter assignments to footswitches, led colour changes, free reign with what goes on what path etc) and the form factor and sound quality of the hotone, it'd be the perfect unit!

I'll check those videos out soon, appreciate you linking them! I don't like the idea of spending another hundy on a controller though as you're into hx stomp XL territory, which has a lot more bass ready amps etc 🤔 Gigged it last night, and made the fatal mistake of building patches via headphones and expecting them to translate to live 😬... Wasn't hugely impressed with the sound, but it's not exactly a fair test really... The touchscreen was far superior to use than anything I've experienced with the hx stomp in the past so that's a plus, but with a room full of wedding guests, I didn't really have time to re-jig everything There was also a bit of frantic tapdancing going between patch and stomp mode, too. That'll take some working out 🤣

I was tempted to get the midi switch they do, but I've set up 4 patches and I seem to have enough with the 3! I have a couple of niggles, and a couple of things I need to suss but over all it sounds fantastic through headphones! Definitely sounds more "alive" to me than the hx stomp did (YMMV). Incase anyone's interested, main niggles are... 1) The 6 effects on path A and 6 on B isn't every well thought out when splitting. 2) I HATE that I can't press two footswitches at once to turn one effect off and another on at the same time! It automatically scrolls through banks with no way of changing that I can see! 3) As intuitive as the touch screen is; I'd have liked an effects screen layout similar to the hx stomp XL and Helix LT!

Thanks for the detailed response! I'd read some of the pitch effects were poor, luckily that's not the aim for me... I'm mostly looking for good amp/cab sims and convincing drives (as I plan to ditch the amp and go FOH and IEMs) with access to filters and modulations for future requirements. More bass amps would've been nice, but too much choice on the hx stomp always hindered me, so one nice amp sim should hopefully work a treat! I plan on integrating it with my C4 and ultrawave, and analogue octaver in the effects loop. Do you use any sort of external controller with yours?

Thread resurrection! Do you still use your Ampero 2 @stewblack? I'm thinking of one of these instead of the HX stomp... I like the idea of the touch screen and reports of better sound quality. Just wondering what your take is after a few months?

Not sure what language you're even speaking at this point! 🤣 For the more simple folks (like myself) they exchanged the notched volume control for a normal non-notched control. There was a big volume jump between notches 2 and 3...

Unbelievably loud! I found between notches 2 and 3 it went from too quiet to too loud, spoke to Orange though and after a bit of protest from Andertons, Orange changed the control out for a linear pot under warranty. Fantastic sound and fantastic service to boot!

I'd throw the orange little bass thing into the mix... different sound to the terror bass, and sounds huge (not just for it's size). 500W and I never have it above 9 o clock. Orange customer service can't beat either. Adjustable mid freq, and the most musical signal knob compressor I've used that really adds weight and warmth. As previously mentioned, you're unfortunately going to get nothing but peoples preferences here (mine included). If it's any help, I've had ALOT of amps before landing at the little bass thing, some highlights were: Aguilar TH500, lovely warm tubey character with natural sounding saturation. Although I find the Little bass thing to sound a bit "fuller". Mark bass LM Vintage 1000, great big warm tube tone, sounded great with the gain pushed - Loved this tonally as much as I love my Little bass thing, but there were QC issues. GK 700/1001RB-II - Discontinued, but available used - Relatively heavy A/B heads, sound huge with more "heft" than you can shake a stick at.. I found the 1001RBII a bit too clinical for me, but the 700RB sounds legendary pushed! My 1001RBII lasted 15 years heavily gigging before having issues (which resolved them selves anyways). Hope this helps!

Thanks for the shout, pal! Preamps can feel like a bit of a minefield, the Le bass is a great choice but as mentioned, for what you're looking for you're spoilt for choice really 🙂