Lenny B

Damn - I didn't know about this. I used to love Gretchen, great album. Damn again

On the same day I was given Milestones, Kind of Blue and A Love Supreme. And that was it.

[quote name='RhysP' post='1190643' date='Apr 6 2011, 04:24 PM']They just don't like strangers...... [url="http://www.hamerfanclub.com/forums/"]http://www.hamerfanclub.com/forums/[/url] It can be a bit temperamental - sometimes it'll say you are not permitted to access the site, other times you can get on there fine. Patience is needed. It's a great forum (VERY US-centric though). I haven't been on there for a while since I sold my last Hamer guitar.[/quote] Great, thanks again

[quote name='RhysP' post='1190629' date='Apr 6 2011, 04:09 PM']Might be worth a look here too: [url="http://www.12stringbass.net/"]http://www.12stringbass.net/[/url] Also, Mark Egan used to play a fretless Pedulla 8 string - might be worth looking for some info on that.[/quote] I heard about the Mark Egan one and had a look at the Pedulla site - they offer one, but for $5,000! I came across the 12 string site just before, so will ask a few questions there. I haven't found the Hamer forum yet, I think it may have shut...?

This is why I'd really like to try one or speak with someone who has one. Will have a look at the Hamer forum, thanks

[quote name='Lfalex v1.1' post='1189504' date='Apr 5 2011, 07:26 PM']I reckon you'd definitely want inlaid lines on the fingerboard, just to keep you straight. Worse still, any failings in your intonation will be made all the more obvious by the higher of the pair of strings as they'll be easier t hear due to their higher pitch. Add to that any "beating" sounds caused by a variance in the pitch between the two octave strings, and your technique will have to be spot-on to avoid these issues. Don't be down-hearted. Fretless guitars exist. Vigier make them. If you're playing chords on those, You'd have to be Sh*t hot to get them to ring true. Still, if guitards can cope....[/quote] All true - I think defretting a cheap 8-string and seeing what happens will be the way to go...

Fantastic, well done

[quote name='DaveB' post='1189034' date='Apr 5 2011, 02:19 PM']if you want a cheap 8 string to buy to de-fret see my sig matey [/quote] Thanks, got a bit excited there, but it's the other kind of 8-string - I'm talking about the type with an accompanying string up the octave. Can't believe that no-one here is tempted by yours though!

[quote name='BigRedX' post='1188847' date='Apr 5 2011, 12:07 PM']IIRC there was someone on TalkBass who had one made. The outcome was not particularly good, although from what I remember a lot of it was down to the crapness of the luthier he chose to use. It might be worth heading over there and looking for the thread.[/quote] Cheers, will do

[quote name='walbassist' post='1188681' date='Apr 5 2011, 09:52 AM']I would imagine the main issue here would be intonation. While fretted 8s are okay I guess if your intontation is out on a fretless 8 it'd sound pretty nasty?[/quote] That was a thought, but was just wondering if anyone had played one and can say how difficult this would be...

Anyone?

Does anyone make one? Has anyone tried one? I'm playing a lot of fretless at the moment in a world music band - so lots of unison riffs with Ouds with quarter-tone scales. I'm using the octave pedal quite a bit, but was thinking that having the up the octave chime could work nicely on some songs. I've seen a few relatively-budget 8-strings (ESP, Dean etc), but no fretless models. Anyone tried one? Worth experimenting with de-fretting one or are there good reasons why no-one seems to be doing them....? Cheers

[quote name='KingPrawn' post='1134120' date='Feb 20 2011, 10:26 AM']Yes i know it sound stupid because it is. " just use a pick". But i was wondering has anyone come across pedals that could give such a sound. Or maybe a combination of pedals. i was thinking an envelope filter, or an eq pedal. When you listen to Flea he has loads of attack using his fingers. Any thoughts[/quote] Flea does use a pick sometimes (Parallel Universe for example) - depending on the song you're thinking of, it could just be that...

Still playing my Lyte, 22 (cripes!) years on - pickups are fine, battery is fine, still loving it

[quote name='BigRedX' post='1052541' date='Dec 9 2010, 11:01 AM']This is only a problem if the performers in question are claiming that they wrote the song rather than the person who actually did. If someone records a "chart-busting" version of your song then join the PRS and sit back and enjoy the royalties as they come in! The covers band playing your song down the pub are also paying royalties for playing your song although indirectly. The venue should have a PRS license in order to have live or recorded music playing. If the performance was logged and the band playing filled in the song sheet correctly then you may see a very small amount of money. However it is pretty much impossible to log every song from every live performance every day in the UK and then match those up with the relevant songwritters, so it doesn't happen very often.[/quote] The above is dependent on you joining the PRS first! You genereally don't need permission to record and release a song registered with the MCPS provided that it has already been released (you can't do the first released version) - however, arrangements or adaptations need permission Damages are based upon what your quantifiable loss would be - for a pub band playing your songs, that's pretty much nothing - that is if you're not a PRS member - if you are a member, then the venue should (theoretically) be paying something. But you could also (provided you've the money and inclination) apply for a court order preventing them from doing so again.

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[quote name='redstriper' post='1050782' date='Dec 7 2010, 05:41 PM']Can you provide some examples ? I have never heard of anyone being prevented from using works providing the royalties are correctly assigned. They may get sued or investigated by PRS and have to re-assign royalties, but they are not stopped from using them permanently - or am I wrong here ?[/quote] Yup - you're wrong. I think what you may be referring to is the set MCPS rate for cover versions - 8.5% (from memory) of wholesale price goes to the composer, but that's for a straight cover only - you've no right to do anything other with that song, you can't take excerpts or incorporate any other bits into something else. And that's only for songs (i.e publishing rights) - you can't do anything with recordings without the owner's permission. If you want examples, just google 'Music Sampling Law' or 'Music Law Disputes' - and remember there's no 'Fair Use' exemptions in the UK And I'm a lawyer, so please take my word for it - there are the famous sampling infringement cases (Robbie Williams v Ludlow off the top of my head) and thousands of other claims and cases that don't get reported.

[quote name='redstriper' post='1050630' date='Dec 7 2010, 03:28 PM']Thanks for that, I understand the legal concept of copyright, but I'm not sure how that affects me or other professional composers in everyday life. I would like some real life examples of ordinary musicians preventing other people from using their works.[/quote] You can't prevent someone from using another's works in advance, but if you do so without permission they can sue you and get an injunction ordering you to stop using those works. They can also register a dispute with the PRS and prevent you from getting performance income for those works until the dispute is resolved.

A couple of quick points to correct from the above; - if you're in the UK or a UK citizen, you dont need to do anything to copyright music - that happens automatically when it is recorded - and that includes notated, scribbled out or actually recorded to some device - there are international conventions that protect UK copyrights in other countries (and on the internet) - 'public domain' in relation to copyright means that the period of copyright has expired (50 yrs for a recording and 70 yrs after the composer's death for a song) and that the rights are now in the public domain (ie they don't belong to anyone) - it doesn't mean that it's simply 'out there' and released. I wrote these articles for Bass Guitar Magazine a while ago - they may be of use, but let me know if you've any questions. [url="http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=2508&hl=music+business"]http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=...=music+business[/url]

[quote name='Clarky' post='1043599' date='Dec 1 2010, 11:49 AM']Seems we are going ahead, using backing tapes as the drummer and guitarists definitely cannot make it. Line-up may just be Vocals Trombone Trumpet Double bass .... err tapes Far cry from the 14-piece that played on Halloween If anyone was thinking of coming along (especially those with broken legs!), please don't feel obliged as this is such a stripped down version of the band[/quote] You've talked me out of it! Let me know when you're next Camden-way... BTW, I finally gigged your old P a coupe of weeks ago, did the job bang on. Really pleased with it Cheers Len

[quote name='bubinga5' post='1029844' date='Nov 19 2010, 08:05 PM']Discovered a wonderful soul groove band called JD73.... very classy band...what you think...love the horns... i frickin love this music.. [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwTH8LpFwO0&feature=player_embedded#"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwTH8LpFwO0...layer_embedded#[/url]! [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w62EICN4Qz4&feature=related"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w62EICN4Qz4...feature=related[/url] why do i adore music like this soo much..[/quote] Nice - the second link is my sister singing!

I've forwarded this link to Dan (JD73) - great, isn't it? We were at college and did many gigs together, one of my best mates. Awesome musician, and amazing bass player too. There's a JD73 appreciation thread on the Incognito Forum Will post when he's got gigs coming up... :-)