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[quote name='Sonic_Groove' timestamp='1494240448' post='3294177'] Thanks Iain, the sound is the most important for Me not sure I need the fancy stuff Squabble? Snapshot? -- So the sound quality is similar??? Dood what are FR800's??? Brendan [/quote] [quote name='fretmeister' timestamp='1494241519' post='3294197'] FR800 is the Barefaced FRFR powered cab. FRFR is Full Range Flat Response. It's the ideal amplification type if you want to use software simulations of cabinets. If you don't then you turn those simulations off and use any old amp (power section) and your existing cab. I use mine both ways depending on what I fancy. The sound quality is a massive hike over previous L6 kit. The software per model is over 4 times as large with far more information. [/quote] What my man Fretmeister says http://barefacedbass.com/product-range/FR800.htm

I decided to retract my post a couple of minutes after. Think I'll step away from BC for a bit.

EDIT: Actually, you know what, I don't really care. I've deleted my post.

[quote name='fretmeister' timestamp='1493813974' post='3290855'] If it helps - now that it's got a bigger choice of compressors and drive pedals I haven't turned my regular board on. The only thing the Helix can't do very well at the moment is a synth sound like the BSW. Other than that, I don't need anything else. I have the full fat rack and floor controller, but I'm thinking of selling off my old pedal board and getting an LT as a back up / easy carry option. [/quote] I have all of my pedals out on the floor at the moment trying to decide what's going to be the best option. Do I really need the LT? - well, I would LOVE to get a pair of FR800's and the LT. That would be me done really I suppose (love that volume control on the top panel!!) - but that purchase is going to be a very, very distant dream!

I think lots of people got their knickers in a twist because they believe that 500W (for example) is an absolute rating of 'volume', which of course it is not. The RH750 is still a very capable amp. If however you aren't swayed, then look at the BH800 which doesn't feature the 'tube amp emulation' of the APM circuitry and has a more 'hifi' tone which would suit your synth needs too I would guess. BH800 is a great little amp for the money.

Yes! Interesting. I actually thought their Harley Benton (GLX, Red Sub etc) EQ pedal was good for the money so it'll be interesting to see how this fairs. Nice spec from what I can see so far.

[quote name='dannybuoy' timestamp='1493759748' post='3290537'] That's a deal breaker if true. Surely those LaBella tapewounds made for the Kala basses would fit? [/quote] Information is a bit thin on the ground until people try it I guess. I don't have an answer I'm afraid!

On reflection, I think I see what you are saying. If the only way you can hear a cabinet is by placing it miles away then it isn't ideal for situations where you can't get the distance and thus one that works close up as well is a better option.

Yeah, I agree with your first point that some cabinets I have played with have a massive roll off of clarity as you move from their fronts round to the sides and some that are pretty woolly sounding (as an example) that seem to get lost in the mix the further you get way from them. I'm sure the resident 'experts' will be along to tell us why. Second point, I suppose that ultimately it's what works for one person may be completely different to another, for so many reasons. I were mainly referring to JL's 'nut sack' comment and possible ways that could help JL in hearing himself. I don't however think that placing a cabinet further away from you so that you aren't right on top of it is fighting it though? Maybe I am misunderstanding you, placing the cabinet away from you isn't a fault of the cabinet, nor is angling the cabinet upward so you can hear it more clearly. You may have to elaborate! Me personally, If anything, I don't want a cabinet that can't deliver across a stage (when required to). I'd ditch a cabinet that only offered me a very small aperture (if you want to call it that) where I can hear it clearly? I dunno, maybe I'm just not the 'standing still' type ha!

So many venues I've had to play where the balancing act required to get all the musicians in to one tiny space were the least of our problems! We can but dream.

I think the point was that having to stand right in front of your cabinet on small stages meant that the sound were firing directly in to the backs of your knees and thus placing it further away meant you were actually getting the sound from the front of the cabinet. So, not the fault of the cabinet, whatever shape or size.

As to be expected, a super swift transaction, great communications from a trusted BCer Cheers Simon!

Mine is a '76 P bass, unfortunately I can't afford the real thing, but I do have an amazing 'law suit era' Matsumoku made Precision.. That's pretty much the same thing

[quote name='charic' timestamp='1493795770' post='3290643'] How is it we always end up going down similar paths gear wise [/quote] We are of the enlightened few he he! I missed out on a deal on the Helix LT yesterday, I'm thinking about selling my current board to make up some pennies. It's a tough choice though!

Love this thread. I've made one or two and here's my latest, so cross-posting http://basschat.co.uk/topic/303227-fender-deacon-ification-mkii-late-70s-mid-80s-era/ It's a real Fender Precision neck - an 'A' neck with a 40mm nut and the body is a seriously resonant example made by the incredible Jon Shuker. The net effect is an extraordinarily girth-some sounding instrument acoustically. Couple with a Dimarzio Will Power P pickup, I am very impressed! I'm still tweaking the set up, but I'm pretty impressed.

[quote name='ped' timestamp='1493747742' post='3290420'] Looks like a great little bass. Would be brilliant to have at work... Sorry about the crappy quality BC 'title card' by the way... maybe we need a competition to do a new one??? Cheers ped [/quote] I agree, it's a super little bass! Very much enjoyed playing it, if but briefly! The title card is exactly the kind thing I'd like to put on my review videos - it looks ok on small screens, but I do agree, something that will look great on big screens will spruce the place up a bit

Just spent nearly two hours in my local music shop plugged in to the Line 6 Helix LT. I wanted a bit more time to figure stuff out on it, but I can see it replacing pretty much my whole pedal board. Even the stuff sat in my cupboard too. Very good indeed - and it didn't even have the latest firmware on.

An internet piece here from 2013 about ramps. I'm only posting it because Damian used a picture of my Shuker 7 string which has a ramp on it: http://www.notreble.com/buzz/2013/04/03/bass-ramps-the-how-and-why/ http://www.danveall.co.uk/shuker7/complete/10blur.jpg Mmmm yummy gorgeous flip paint! (Sorry, kinda over did the pictures a bit, but hey, why not, she's a beauty!!)

Are you talking specifically about the Big Twin II or 'general bass guitar cabinets with a tweeter in'? I'm not sure if you are referring to my post.

[quote name='pete.young' timestamp='1493661696' post='3289822'] The H4 also has two 6mm jack/XLR inputs in addition to the built in mikes, so you could take a signal off the desk and a DI off your bass and balance the whole lot up. I'm assuming that the earphones are always on, I'll have a listen next time and see if it does. No reason it should be any different to the H2 that I can see. [/quote] Indeed! The Q8 I have also has two XLR inputs as well as the stereo microphones. The only reasons I chose not to go straight with that as a 'solution' was that I didn't want to take a delicate camera that would only provide audio and of course, the 4 microphones on the H2n do a great job of an 'omnidirectional' pickup. Let me know how you get on! - After last night, I'm actually thinking about going ahead with my idea on the video that I would feed the output of the H2n in to our IEM mix and control it via the iPad remote control. I think we have a spare input or two!

Well, these guys were set up next to me at London Bass Guitar Show when I was on the Shuker stand, but I didn't get a chance to talk to them. Turns out they do lightweight valve amps! https://www.rheingoldmusic.de/Amplification

I've owned the Big Twin II. I've sold it so that I can buy some FR800's, but very sadly my car broke in the meantime leaving me with no cab and zero cash. (F'd off!) - I will be getting a Big Baby II in the meantime for sure. What I [i]can [/i]tell you though, having tested the theory, is that the Big Twin II is the BEST cabinet I have tried for reproducing full spectrum audio. I've played CD's and digital audio through it and have been frankly astonished at how good it sounds when you crank it up. Like the very best in PA gear but better suited to us bassists. Finally a cabinet with a decent tweeter and crossover in it that is designed for [i]that[/i] purpose. If I could have kept it (i.e. funds were not an issue) I absolutely would. Placing 'amp sims in line with this cabinet will be very well received but if there's one thing it will reveal, and that's SISO - feed it with the good stuff and that's what you'll hear back, just like running cab sims in to a PA or studio monitors. There are a few that have struggled with the Big Twin II and I reckon that is due to not being used to the apparent 'lack of colour' in these cabinets that can shape a bass tone. Sometimes experienced when plugging a bass straight in to studio monitors with no EQ etc. I do have a couple of cabinets here that are well know for their colour and yes they sound absolutely epic, I gigged them last night and very impressive they were too, but if you want a carte blanche to start with (PA type fold back) then this is the way to go personally. You also have the huge bonus of being able to use the Big Twin II or BB2 as PA cabinets, keyboard monitors or even cabinets for Kemper/AxeFX/Helix guitarists too.

Just re-read again - Did the engineer also mean that he didn't want bass in the monitors? Some engineers just don't know how to set up their monitors and pump way too much low end through them. The speakers can't handle it and sound rubbish. So prefer to use a bass amp instead.

Unless he is expecting the amp to provide the FOH sound with only a smidge in the PA for spread. But that would depend on venue and PA sizes. That I can't be sure without knowing the details.