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I believe the latest one said this weekend for delivery. Still undecided but I guess this weekend may be the last chance. Do you think Sims could do LEDs with colours to match the two on the bass? Maybe that really would stretch the batteries!! If you’re going to have a slightly maverick, slightly OTT bass maybe that is another thought?

At least one more person on Talkbass has ordered one - have you given in and pressed the button….. 😀 I haven’t but quite like the stone coloured one now - I can imagine it being great fun - as I’ve increased in age and relative decrepitude 😩 I’ve moved from one finger per fret to simandl at the bottom end of the fretboard for repetitive parts (like rock and roll lines like Whole Lotta Shakin Going On) in great sounding but real PITA keys like F and G!! Rehearsal tomorrow - let’s see if the fretting hand complains (after all it’s done relatively little for over 12 months 😕).

I have heard/read about that story regarding the last Free album made but not the Fire and Water era.

This is from another thread but superb - All Right Now is a rip roaring version (last track) - there’s some hugely funky playing by Andy Fraser throughout with a fat bass sound (note the way he plucks the bass hard, right next to the bridge - as did Bernard Edwards, another of my favourites) - the whole band is absolutely cooking - as they were the three times I saw them live (supported by Mott the Hoople each time)! I can’t understand why I never wanted an EB3 in 1970 (probably because Larry Taylor and Alan Spenner played Precisions and Leo Lyons a Jazz - and of course no one knew who Jameson and Babbitt were apart from the Motown inner sanctum - similarly Messrs Cogbill and Jemmott with Atlantic etc)

The 2 band pre amp sounds slightly different from the normal EB one - the Patrick Hunter video and the one on the EBMM web site seem to give an indication that it’s more along the lines of an ultra clean sound - perhaps like the late 90s Incubus and other similar - but with some of the normal Stingray fatness remaining (especially for slap).

Ah - other soft drinks like Vimto, Corona and Tango were available. How about Espresso Bongo (for those pre Beatles ‘cats’?). Again for the old(er) folk - there actually used to be a ‘Ray Gun’ - first appeared on the likes of early sc fi and Gerry/Silvia Anderson creations (Fireball XL5 for instance) but then suddenly became President of the US. Well stranger things have happened since (including a synonym for emitting wind from the anus), I guess 😁😂 but completely off topic as none have anything to do with the DarkRay or even EBMM, who incidentally have been a very worthy saviour of (in 1984) and long term curator of the StingRay bass design 👍

Is it still in your basket - I discarded mine again last night but may revisit!! Amen to that - and more excuses NOT to use flatwound strings 😬😂 that said I still get tempted by the occasional Fender offerings - the Miami blue American Pro basses are stunning - but are unfortunately missing the chrome fenders and grilles which are, in my book, absolutely obligatory…. I guess you could purchase and add them. I used to have a Jazz bridge cover kicking round which was in use in my youth as an…….ash tray - seriously 😏 Back to the DarkRay, one of those distortions sounds very Tim Commerford - very impressive and the clean is really impressive also.

That’ll be the 5 string version then 😏😂

The other interesting thing here is the 2 band, super clean sounding EQ - but still with the unique fat sounding slap/pop sound. Clearly aimed at metal bassists - i think it’s quite an interesting departure. Bright red or bright blue I might be even more interested.

The 100 is the limited granite stone colour - which is available in The Vault so can be bought internationally - apparently Andertons have the black one on their site. The Vault version won’t have retailer’s mark up (which seems to be quite considerable these days - and very variable dependent on who you’re using). I think it sounds pretty awesome but I’m not a metal player or even approaching being one 😂 The modes are easily switchable with the blade switch (as he appears to do in the video). I would imagine this will go down well with some parts of the market. The black version is the regular one.

Nope - Christmas sort of - unless the sauce material was wrong!! 😩 (ps I’ve taken to leaving auto correct errors for added effect!!)

Aherm…..bass players (I could find):- Lemmy; Elvis Presley Non bass players:- Annie Lennox; Ricky Martin: Ed Miliband; Nostradamus….

What…….. 19 posts in and no Andy Fraser This must be one of the fattest bass sounds ever - and with regard to another thread, is helpful when there are guitar solos 😏 https://youtu.be/0gQ3u6qIn1s Ps won’t embed - such a good live sound

They were cheaper and iirc there was a bunch of them unsold at the Bass Gallery that they sold off for around £400 each - it seems everyone wanted the active version. They sound and play fine. It’s really weird the way fashions change - back in that mid 2000s era everyone chose the 3 band Stingray - nowadays there’s more love for the 2 band than there was!! It’s the same with flatwounds - mind you I’ve just fitted two of my basses with new roundwounds (Stingray Special and Sabre) - any thoughts of flatwounds have completely disappeared - what a sound!!

If it was from FB Marketplace and in Leicester……. 😯 but yes they’re probably very slow dealing with it on their site!

Yeah good view if you’re bidding. Back in 2010 or so, I bid on an immaculate 1989 trans red Ray with fabulous birds eye maple neck and board - I dropped out at £900 - it went for £1200 - what I didn’t realise was the tear drop case alone was worth £300 (as the up market pre EB basses - eg Cutlass, as well as some Rays and Sabres came in those). Mind you every cloud - I got a similarly beautiful 93 fretless in its original deluxe gig bag, immaculate, a couple of weeks later for just over £750!! Did a lot of gigs with that bass (paid for itself several times over). I still have it 👍

I guess you’ve got the choice of sending it back and wait for another to pop up somewhere. Presuming used prices haven’t gone through the roof, you should get one between £500 and £600 I’d guess. As for the BD remark about normal prices, whoever said that there clearly doesn’t have a clue - BUT it will be a commission sale so very probably 15% added to the price the seller gets.

Yes especially dangerous when buying Sansamps!! 😩

I try and do the ‘right’ thing basically - and yes I think there is a morality involved - I’m not in it as a business so can afford to take such a view - there are businesses which do the right thing and others which don’t . I’m afraid that market traderesque bartering is something that doesn’t appeal - particularly when dealing with luxury items (which musical instruments are).

Don’t you just love the Basschat threads take a life of their own - this one seems to have become a repository for posting every low ball Stingray price on the net worldwide. On the Bass Direct Sub what do ‘the experts’ here think is the correct rating of condition? And if @Waddo Soqable likes the bass why send it back because of the neck points - I would ask for a reduction - maybe £50. But it’s all not relevant to this thread title anyway?? I am coming away with the impression that there are a number of market trader-esque of used car salesman/ buyers on the forum which will make me think twice about selling anything here!!

This article plus stories from one or two people I know in the industry reveal another ‘unforeseen’ issue from Brexit. If firms are offering 20% wage increases just to retain/recruit delivery drivers, it looks like shipping costs (and everything else costs) are going to ‘inflate’….. Anyone get the distinct feeling that those promoting Brexit either didn’t have a clue about economics or anything else?! Whilst Covid issues are also wrapped up in this, the fact that UK’s economy has ‘bounced back significantly slower than any other comparable economy suggests another economic condition other than Covid effect has occurred. https://www.thegrocer.co.uk/the-grocer-blog-daily-bread/the-hgv-driver-shortage-has-hit-catastrophic-levels-industry-needs-government-intervention/656892.article

No problem - I know there a few people on here and TB who have that point of view view 👍 I’m just saying there are other points of view which differ - the commission sales in shops (not just of Stingrays) show there is a broader market. There’s a whole thread full of problems relating to scammers on FB market place so you takes your chance there - on the other hand there are also FB groups for some instruments - like supporters clubs - and I guess like car clubs (eg the MG Car Club), people might sell to each other within that as they’re all enthusiasts.

I feel this needs challenging as I know there are some people on here that have this view and buy and sell Stingrays because they like the idea, then can’t get on with them - or maybe do this several times think - this is not necessarily reflective of the market for Stingrays and is really an oversimplification and although I don’t want to start a silly poll (and as Basschat is fairly unrepresentative of the broader bass market it wouldn’t be much help anyway), there are a fair few people around who are a bit more discerning than that. There are vast differences across the years of production and certainly since 2005, there have been a range of additional options, and loads of variations of models, both standard and short run. Since 2018 there has been the introduction of the Stingray Special model. That’s before you get into desirable or otherwise colours - even back into the 80s and 90s. A new one is the mid 90s was £750 - a new one now is in the high £2ks. (The US Subs were about £425/450 new in the 2003-6 production period - gig bag (no case) - the passive was slightly cheaper). Saying a Stingray costs x is about as helpful in the real world as saying a Classic Mini was on sale for £5k, and a Classic Cooper S might be a bit more (oh yeah - a mint one might actually be £45k) - apart from for people who just want a Stingray and don’t actually care (I think it is a major presumption that is the market). It doesn’t just apply to Stingrays - the same is true of other basses (eg Warwick - tons of models - different values; Precisions - vast range of models of more or less the same thing - vast range of prices - occasional ‘bargains’ for one reason or another). I must say if I found a Ray being sold by a struggling muso, and it was a model I was really after, you wouldn’t catching me offering a low ball price, in fact I would be more than happy to pay a going rate and probably more - I’d be more than happy to outbid the ‘flippers’. If I did pay a low ball price, I would most certainly feel I was taking advantage of such a person, who you could consider to be in a ‘vulnerable’ position - there is a distasteful side to capitalism imho!

I have one (amongst its 9 other more expensive (some very much more) siblings. They’re great and sound exactly as a 2 band Stingray should - the string of cost saving measures are largely on body material (multiple, poorly matched pieces of poplar), no contours (so slab body as pre EB and Stingray Classic), neck finishing (covered with black paint - lack of hand finished fret end slots etc), body finish (textured) but the electronics and hardware are all standard (but unbranded hardware) US Stingray bits. Just remember the price of these has increased, and like with normal Stingrays, a lot of people prefer them stock! A good purchase though - they sound exactly as you’d expect a poplar bodied, rosewood board 2 band Stingray to.

😂 I’ve ceased bothering to defeat the silly profanity filter - the correct word was the male version of a hen - bizarrely a pink torpedo according to this forum!!!