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Yes, a lot where very mid to high based. Even in rock - duff mckagans tone was quite thin with chorus on as well. Worked beautifully with guns n roses.

I've had loads of amps, loads of different styles, power, makes etc. I'm always happy with them..... Until I try something else, or something more convienient comes along... And then back to the heavy stuff... The only time I will truly believe for myself that class d is just as good as big old iron amps is when everybody when asked 'what amp would you like to play through tonight if you didn't have to buy, transport, carry or set it up", says a small class d head... Horses for courses though. Everyone has their sound and reasons for choosing their amps.... Let's be honest there's no way I'm lugging a 4x10 trace combo to every gig, that would be crazy.

Its the 'iron' of the power amp in these, and similar ones, that gives them a lot of the sound.

Imo the tonex is worth ten times what it costs. It's outstanding value. But one before everyone sussed and buys them and prices go up.

Such a good sound. I'm loving the fact everything is on the facia too and is switchable on/off. 2 eq presets 13 band eq Tilt eq Compression hi Compression lo Valve or solid state pre Etc

Yes, you're right, I can see the T of logo now you mention it.

Yeh, that looks like it! A few differences, but could be an older model. It is ridiculously light though, like lighter than a guitar light.

Hi all, I've picked this up as a doer upper. Needs a thorough (to say the least) clean, a new pot/stalk, and all the stickers removing. And a strap button. And a set up. Does anyone know what it is? I was thinking a bass collection, or perhaps an sx? But the D tuning peg is higher than A on the other side? Its a shallow but wide ish neck. Confused. Feels so so light, seriously the lightest I've ever had, and sounds very nice.

They should just add the end lids like this... Ie no need to alter the abm, just add 2 clippable ends on. Lightweight, easier to use, looks cool.

They do some out there things sometime ashdown. I can't work out why they'd market the new abm in that metal case with no protection. It's either to keep costs down, but then offer you the wooden sleeve at extra cost, or just a bit crazy. We know it won't last without protection with all those exposed knobs and sliders. I said it before about the RM - just add a clippable lid front and back and that would be miles better. Full protection, no need for a heavy wooden cover and very easy to use.

Its a fair point, everytime, and I mean everytime I try a big old solid state a/b type amp it is night and day difference to a small class d head. Cabs too. They just push air in that old satisfying way, that I've never really got with a lightweight cab - although I can see why people don't want to lug those about.

Without sounding daft.... Why didn't you put the cab on top of the combo?

I think chimike on here was off loading loads of trace gear a while back? Not sure what he still has left?

Yes, great price. Got an absolute bargain. I'd love to get a bit of stability in life (never happens) where I could collect old bass amps from the past and have them in a room or garage for little money. There'll be a time where a lot of the great amps from days gone by will be rare. Even now there's plenty of stellar bass amp manufacturers that have gone for ever (in their original guise - Eden, swr, Warwick, trace, genzbenz, Marshall etc and plenty who don't make transistor amps anymore.

Yes I remember reading the thread. I'm really into that and trying and restoring old amps. Great work! Just having another look at it this morning. It's so well done. The kick plate protector for the speakers, nobody is damaging that or the speakers, yet some cabs today have a cloth protector or flimsy cover, why? The purpose built caps on top of the amp to secure another cab, instead of just resting on top. Proper detail. The covering that's lasted 32 years. Yet some today don't last 12 months. Proper heatsinks on the back. What a great way to get a nostalgic 8x10 rig as well. I'd be amazed if I could find a trace 4x10 cab to fit for £100 or less. Incidentally does anyone know what 4x10 is for this cab?

Original paperwork too

Picked this up (literally and factually) today - but only just Trace elliot gp12 smx 410 combo What an absolute beast. I've always wanted one of these. All the bands in pubs when I first started had one. And I longed for one... Ended up with a 100w commando amp instead Its a lost art. Lost to history if we are not careful. THIS is how bass amps used to be. What has happened with today's amps????!! (I'm a tonex IEM user so take with a pinch of salt). Everything has been done with care, the best materials and purely sound based. However it's aesthetically gorgeous too. Its absolutely a work of genius and has been built with real pride. It's built like a tank. Built to last (it's 32 years old and everything still works perfectly). It has everything you need. Mute switch Gain stage and led guide to correct gain. Passive active switch Input blend dial from pure solid state to valve preamp. 12 band eq. Switchable. Switchable 3 stage pre shapes. Graphic level dial. Low compression dial High compression dial. Eq balance dial. This is the same as the supposed new angled tilt dials on amps. Effects level dial. Effects input dial Send return DI Output level Earth lift. And what a sound! In excellent condition with the originally paperwork and warranty too! Gees, this is a proper amp! Long live the old amps!

I stacked x2 markbass traveller 210s. Phenomenal sound. More than you'll ever need. Way better than a standard 4x10 shape. And easier to carry and transport. Recommended.