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[quote name='LeftyBiskit' timestamp='1320697149' post='1430275'] the person(s) responsible should be banished to the colonies. [/quote] We don't want them here, thank you very much. Looks like he sprinkled purple glitter over black PVA and then varnished it. Clearly he didn't pay much for the instrument or he would have been more careful. So....was the bass stolen? Hmmm...

Live At The Aladdin is my second fave vid after Y2K. Prince may be a wee bit egotistical and unfashionable but he's still one hell of a musician.

[quote name='alyctes' timestamp='1321659619' post='1441847'] If you live in (example) Malta, your opportunities to meet Basschat members are limited, and few people will trade with you ("sorry mate, UK only"). The net result of that is that people who live outside the UK will seldom have many Likes. [/quote] OK I think its important to be clear that the feedback on sales and reputation system for posts are separate and shouldn't be confused. A sellers decision not to send out of the UK is their perogative unfortunately. I don't think the reputation system will influence that. The feedback forum would be a better reference. We've talked about a feedback system similar to a reputation system like for Ebay but the software we use doesn't offer that facility yet.

[quote name='Johnston' timestamp='1321659079' post='1441839'] Sorry but that's funny. I know some folk take the internet serious but that's taking it too far. [/quote] We had a chuckle about it too. Especially because he had been fairly outspoken on some topics. Made me wonder about the other claims to credibility he'd made in his posts.

He doesn't get to see you have disliked him. The system is anonymous for everyone apart from admin. [quote name='alyctes' timestamp='1321658592' post='1441833'] Generally I don't like the idea of a rating system, because IMO it tends to freeze out the non-British members. [/quote] How do you see nationality influencing the rep system?

[quote name='Johnston' timestamp='1321652197' post='1441767'] so it's like the recent Union vote then [/quote] No idea what that is. [quote name='Johnston' timestamp='1321652197' post='1441767'] Just had a thought though. If the likes/Dislikes in any form stay will the Mods still be exempt? I'd be feared it would create a sort of them and us atmosphere and add friction in the more heated topics. You know a bit of "aye you think your above it and I can't even neg you" towards them. [/quote] The fact that they're mods already creates an us and them situation. I suggest there's nothing wrong with that. The mods need to be neutral as much as possible in dealing with friction between members. They have immunity to protect them from retaliatory behaviour. It helps them focus on the job. Having to deal with too much negativity can make a difficult job sometimes thankless. In any case, there's another system for dealing with mod behaviour, ie PM-ing Ped or I. On the other hand mods can't be liked either...I had 16 likes before we took away the rep system for mods...I've been ROBBED!! Besides which, it's not like being a mod or admin was ever a secret route towards being one of the cool kids...well not for me anyway. [quote name='Johnston' timestamp='1321652197' post='1441767'] Can the Mods like and dislike folk though even though we can't do it on their posts??[/quote] The mods are entitled to their opinions on topics that are unrelated to their roles and I doubt think their votes are going to distort the fabric of Basschat popularity to any significant degree. Ped, Machines, Hamster and I can see who has liked and disliked posts. Already we know of one member (not a mod) who created a separate profile so they could like their own posts under the other profile and then asked why we were taking issue with their posts when they were liked so many times...but my lips will remain sealed...they know who they are.

Its democratic in that it provides you with an opportunity to participate.

Let us know what you prefer.

[i]It is bowing, not bowed and it is used by some of the most famous luthiers of the world. You haven't tried that yet, you may not exactly know what it can do. Many truss rods don't work correctly. The bowing feature is essential in that case and for instruments that don't have truss rod or for necks still back bowing under string tension and loosen truss rod.[/i] The truss rods don't curve evenly...I'm not clear on what you mean by working properly..but they curve well enough to accommodate the additional width in the arc of the string around the 12th fret. For warped necks, any decent luthier will ensure either that the wood is seasoned and dried properly, and/or the fingerboard is dressed properly before installing frets. Dressing frets with a straight edge while the neck is under string tension is the easiest and most time efficient way of ensuring a playable neck for players who like low action. For settling necks, there's no benefit in reducing the amount of work that the truss rod does unless the neck is so badly bowed that the truss rod is maxed out. . [i]After fret level with the correct relief, you can still adjust the neck with the truss rod but you'll adjust it only a little bit resulting in minimal changes of relief linearity. And what about that when you adjust the neck from bowed to straight for fret leveling with a straight beam? [/i] Dress the frets while the neck is under string tension. Add relief to taste using the truss rod. It works really well. [i]The wood of the neck doesn't settle so quickly after that deformation. You will be working on a settling neck. With the bowing tool you avoid this problem and save lot of time as well. It allows you to fret level instantly and naturally. [/i] It doesn't need to settle if you dress with the strings on. Besides, from what I can make out, the tool only replicates the effect of a truss rod, not the effect of neck relief. The different densities and thicknesses of the neck and the tool will mean marginally different curve characteristics. I think the tool could end up creating more problems than it solves for players who like low action. Even assuming that the neck and tool were capable of bowing in the same way, the luthier would have to find some way of measuring the amount of bow in order to use the tool properly to a ridiculously accurate degree in order to ensure the tool actually had any benefit. How would they do that? Using a micrometer to take a set of measurements off a settled neck? Lets also consider how the tool would be used. Dressing occurs in movements running parallel to the long axis of the neck and 90 degrees to the frets. If a tool is used that is already bent to match the relief in the neck, a much larger low area will be worn into the frets than is present in the neck as the low point of the tool is moved across the frets unless the tool is moved less than the distance of one fret at the lowest point in either direction. The only way to get a faithful matching curve would be to move the tool parallel to the frets. The luthier would then need to apply consistent pressure on the frets as the tool moved around the fingerboard radius. Both methods create more hassle, not reduce it. I'm not convinced the tool would deliver in the manner claimed. BTW, the claims in the link posted illustrate a warped neck, not a settling neck. I think this tool wouldn't be helpful for a warped neck as each neck will warp differently. I just don't believe this tool will be effective on a warped neck at all - which was the original premise behind my comments. [i]By the way, it was on sale long time before than the other one mentioned in the blog and it is patent pending.[/i] Anyone can submit a patent for anything. I don't understand what the value of citing "patent pending" is, apart from showing someone has submitted a patent. It doesn't mean the concept is credible. I just believe the marketing is deceptive and the claims don't hold water. Even if the claims did hold water, there are more effective ways of dealing with the problems described.

A straight edge is all that's needed. I don't see the point of dialing bow into the dressing edge when that can be done with the truss rod after a decent fingerboard dressing. I don't believe the premise on which you make the claim on so many levels.

[quote name='Namisuke' timestamp='1321571656' post='1440923'] Bremen, do you know this? [url="http://rectifymaster.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=7&Itemid=29"]http://rectifymaster...&id=7&Itemid=29[/url] It was the absolutely first to be launched on the market and it is patent pending... [/quote] Stay away. The inventor knows bugger all about fret dressing. Getting the neck straight, dressing fingerboard/frets flat and reintroducing relief to taste will still get better results than filing bow into a warped neck.

thanks Silentbob, this issue is puzzling.

Ped's getting stressed out by this so I'm going to step in and give him a break. There's a bug in the upgrade that relates directly to email notifications that we weren't aware of when we decided to go with it. The bug appears to be still present after we've applied the fix. So far Invision haven't been much help on the forums when approached for a solution. Much of this is just out of our hands. I've asked Ben to respond directly so you at least get some accurate information as soon as we do.

The email issue is Google seeing a Googlemail return address on basschat notifications that aren't sent from a Googlemail account. Its not a big deal.

[quote name='JakeBrownBass' timestamp='1315872019' post='1371316'] Because you obviously haven't played the pedulla [/quote] Amen!

[quote name='JakeBrownBass' timestamp='1315867164' post='1371264'] My bass tutor uses a fretless 5 string Pedulla Pentabuzz and it is easily one of the best basses i've played. IMO one of the best fretless basses ever produced. [/quote] Wal fretlesses are very fine instruments, especially if you have one that is a little brighter sounding. For a standard fretless tone - soft highs, lots of deep mids Wals will do it easily and with bags of sustain. They're very organic sounding basses. Pentabuzzes are also fine instruments, however I suggest replacing the bartolinis with something more neutral, avoid the Pentabuzzes with soapbars as the sensing field of the magnets is weaker on the G and B strings at the end of the pickups. You may also like to consider a preamp that allows you to dial in and boost the mids for extra control. An East Pro preamp with mid sweep would be ideal. I guess the clincher is, you could get a Pentabuzz to sound like a standard fretless but you'd never be able to get a Wal to sound as bright and singing as a Pentabuzz with the mods I've mentioned above. The other thing I'll mention as an owner of a Pentabuzz is that I managed to get a gentle feedback effect onstage with one of my GK RB700 tiltback combos. It was like having a sustainer and was one of the most intensely satisfying live playing experiences I've ever had. There was warmth, loads of growl and soaring highs. The mwah was very slow and the notes literally felt like they were blossoming under my fingers. Utterly intoxicating...especially with stereo chorus and a touch of delay.

I suggest there may be some value in bringing Ben in respond to these issues directly. Ped's essentially been acting the client on this upgrade rather than the technician and we all thought this would be a lot more straight forward than it has been. So we're all in the same boat to some degree although at the moment Ped's getting it in the neck as if he has more technical knowledge than he has. We're all interested in a smoother running forum and its frustrating that these matters haven't been resolved yet. More specifically Chris, its difficult for anyone to be 100% about what the causes of your problems are given the issues are so inconsistent between members. It may be worth Ben speaking with you directly and clarifying exactly what your set up is and how it might interact with the forum.

The coating can always be sanded off so its not like the mod is irreversible.

[quote name='henry norton' timestamp='1321369540' post='1438295'] I'm interested in where you've experienced these issues with thick epoxy coats. I provide an epoxy coating service and have never had any problems with cracking - are you sure it wasn't a Fender style polyester coating you've seen with cracks?[/quote] I'm not sure what a "Fender style" coating is but could well have been poly rather than epoxy. I know poly is favoured by Thor and Pedulla and there have been posts on Talkbass about issues with neck flexibility on poly coated necks. Which is why some manufacturers won't offer it on their fretless necks. I'm no expert but I have a hunch that epoxy may be softer than poly...? [quote name='Chris2112' timestamp='1321379350' post='1438503'] This is an issue. My Zoot fretless had a cracked finish along the side of the neck. It was a graphite neck with an ebony fingerboard, and over the past 13 years the ebony has obviously expanded or shrunk slightly, causing the finish on the side of the neck to crack. It was imperceptible to the fingers when you were playing, though it looked a little bit tatty. Not a huge problem to fix (which I looked into) but I thought it would only happen again. So yes, this sort of thing has to be looked at carefully. I can recall playing a couple of fretless jazz basses with epoxied boards that were badly chipped and cracked.[/quote] Some superglue in the gaps would probably sort that out I'd imagine. Then buff residue flat.

Can be risky. Traditoinally thick coats are needed for durability and the thicker the coat the more brittle the coating gets. So if put on a neck that flexes a lot, there's a risk of cracking. Can't comment specifically on Wal necks and I'm aware that HG Thor has treated one piece maple necks without issues. Maybe the epoxy is a little thinner or a little more flexible these days...?

[quote name='flyfisher' timestamp='1321263365' post='1436960'] Agreed. I thought BC was supposed to be a discussion forum not some sort of multiple-choice survey.[/quote] Replies typically follow the following response anyway: a ) agree b ) disagree (based on a set of assumptions that are either valid or invalid) c ) need more context d ) don't give a sh*t

This is forum for bass players. If the function isn't accompanied by blue flashing LEDs then it isn't working. Get it working please.

Pinned but if we had the wiki, it would be easier...