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[i][i][url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bkPyfzgIpg"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bkPyfzgIpg[/url][/i][/i] If nobody else is going to then I will!

[quote name='RAY AGAINST THE MACHINE' timestamp='1374566648' post='2150091'] Can't listen to it , because off the sitar. Ding ding ding, all the bloody time . That instrument alone ruins everything for me. Yes a bass would be way cooler . [/quote] Yet as a counterpoint the drums are full of "body"

Maybe that sounds a bit harsh, but with "traditional" Chinese, Japanese or Indian music there seems to be a lack of "bass" or bass stringed instruments; plenty of drums?

I dont think Jaco really valued his instrument in the way that we do. It was functional and serviceable but clearly wasnt "cosseted" or showered with love. He knew his fingers were the real magic

[quote name='thisnameistaken' timestamp='1372198216' post='2122892'] You can get a bass and amp good enough to gig for £500. It's not an expensive hobby as hobbies go, and you certainly don't need to be wealthy or well-paid to do it. Do you really not do anything just for the joy of doing it? [/quote] What about if you 'love' playing but can't do it without getting paid. For those that play in bands, there are many more expenses than just the instrument you play. Unless you are a solo artist that busks outside your front door

I sympathise with you, although when I mentioned a similar thing a while ago I was slammed for daring to suggest that musicians play for anything other than the love of music! Apparently I've been told, most bass players are independently wealth and/or have fantastically well paid careers that allow them to indulge themselves playing in a band as an amusing hobby, and the concept that some need payment is vulgar!

Did Jaco own the bass from brand new?

[quote name='White Cloud' timestamp='1370809716' post='2105916'] I am of the opinion that the name playing the bass is more important than the name on the headstock. [/quote] I agree, but sadly there are some who think the 'value' is more important than the 'tone'

[quote name='Kev' timestamp='1370794521' post='2105606'] Well that wouldn't be an issue as the Policies i am looking at are New for Old so you are insuring for the new replacement cost (obviously valuation make total sense for vintage/rare instruments, which mine were not). It's purely proof of ownership i am struggling with. [/quote] So, when you originally took the policy out did you own guitars that you had purchased from new?

[quote name='Kev' timestamp='1370793832' post='2105587'] To be fair, as i say i work in insurance and you wouldn't believe the kind of things you deal with. You would certainly realise why certain conditions are put into Policies and why it may seem hard work to claim at times! I did, however, just think Musicguard were out of touch with the market with the proof of ownership thing and i told them so. I just wonder if they are okay in the event of a claim before i give them or anyone else any more money. [/quote] That would be my concern? There are no agreed values with second hand instruments

Insurance companies can litererally write their own rules. There is hardly an area of life that cannot be insured, life, car, pet, phone, house etc the list goes on and on. But the recurring theme is they are happy to take your money, but unhappy to pay out when a claim is made; looking for any opportunity in the small print to "weazle out". They expect us to be able to read and understand turgid legal documents describing terms and conditions that are strangely lacking from their snappy "bullet point" advertising camapaigns!

[quote name='BassTractor' timestamp='1370790193' post='2105529'] Agreed as to the part of there existing lots of great cheap basses, and I love that aspect. I love quirky and I love cheap. But a noob like me is more secure picking up a new Fodera or Music Man than picking up a new Squier or Epiphone. (mind ya, I have three Squiers that I'm very, very enthusiastic about) Also, while us noobs will not make a high quality bass sound consistently well, from that notion there's no logical line that commands that we're deaf, stupid and without ability to notice stuff in addition. Whilst I love my Daisy Rock, it is clearly the lesser bass compared to my Bongo, and that goes for sound, pre-setup playability, ergonomics, feel, the smoothness of the knobs ... everything. My cheapest bass was £69. Great! My most expensive one was slightly more ... er ... expensive though .... Great, that too. best, bert [/quote] You've got 2,200 posts! Hardly a noob. Or, have you signed in on the wrong account!

[quote name='chris_b' timestamp='1370789734' post='2105522'] Why does anyone buy a Mercedes or BMW when there are perfectly good Fords and Vauxhalls out there? A lot of players can't hear or feel the difference between a Sadowsky and a Squier. That's fine. Their buying decisions should be based on what the can hear. Any more would be a waste of money. On the other hand I'm a fan of the "because you can" approach to life. One-upmanship exists for a reason! [/quote] Not everyone is so easily impressed, especially by a BMW or Mercedes . Its sad that somebody judges themselves by 'disposable' posessions, or chooses to make a purchase on the premis that it may impress "the next door neighbour". What a terrible and unwholesome way to live. Instead, put a value on your intelligence

[quote name='Dingus' timestamp='1370788384' post='2105501'] Are they selling basses in charity shops now ? The bastards ! That means that poor people will be able to afford them . No wonder pop music is going to the dogs . [/quote] Too late, I'm poor and I've got one. But I'm not concerned, as no amount of fancy tv's or flash cars makes up for breeding or of a true gentleman!

[quote name='Dingus' timestamp='1370785811' post='2105470'] It's also worth pointing out , how good a bass sounds depends a great deal on who is playing it ! I've heard fantastic players pick up a Squire and sound like Pino and I've heard poor players on basses that cost £3000 sound like poor players . You have to have reached a certain level of ability to make any bass sound good . [/quote] Good post! Although I the only reason why I can play as well as I can is in no small part due to my "charity shop basses"!

[quote name='Truckstop' timestamp='1370782647' post='2105427'] I might also suggest that higher-end basses have a higher level of functionality and greater flexibility due to higher quality EQs or more pickups etc etc. That's worth a lot of money to some people! Truckstop [/quote] It may surprise you to know that even bargain instruments often come with more than one pup and a volume control. But I can see your point, serious professional musicians require high-end instruments manufactured to the highest standards with the best materials available to get "that" tone

[quote name='hamfist' timestamp='1370761571' post='2105125'] I've owned 3 USA Fenders, two German Warwicks, a Status S2 and numerous other decent quality (and reasonably expensive) basses. Admittedly, these are not top top dollar basses but for most of us I guess we would describe them as high quality, relatively expensive instruments. Anyway, After much chopping and changing and actually listening with my ears rather than with my eyes I have ended up with a main bass (an old Aria Pro II) , which cost me £70 (and I use "as is", unmodded) and a backup (Yamaha RBX270) costing £223 (brand new). Tonally, these instruments are every bit as good as all the more expensive basses I have played and owned. they also both play beautifully, with punch on every string, no dead spots etc. THey don't look "cool" to other musos and they have the "wrong" names on the headstock but I care not. I have found that putting my money into quality amps, cabs and pedals gets me far nearer my tonal objectives than putting it into basses. So, simply an encourangement to all to hunt around and play a lot of cheaper basses, as there are some absolute bargains out there which sound and play stunningly. And yes, I also mean some of the mass-produced Indonesian/Korean basses out there too. Warning ...... there are also many absolutely awful cheap basses out there too. Anyone else found the same ? [/quote] I'm on board too. There is far too much of the "emperors clothes" regarding headstock logo's

I played a Jaco model Jazz and I sounded nothing like him. To make matters worse I didnt even look like him! I want my money back!

[quote name='Chris2112' timestamp='1370331752' post='2099106'] Or maybe, if they admit it's not his bass then they're stuck with a POS they can't sell! [/quote] Or maybe, they assumed, as do many, that any POS associated with a famous name will make big money and not be "questioned"

[quote name='TheGreek' timestamp='1369168817' post='2085844'] Didn't Mick Karn too? and he was very good indeed!! [/quote] That would be correct, unfortunately it appears "japan" were not very kind to her