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Thanks guys.

[quote name='Chris2112' timestamp='1355881321' post='1904070'] I hope you feel vindicated by this five page rant-a-thon you have went on. As has been pointed out - I haven't made it a 5 page rant - others contributing to the thread have - not exactly anything I have had too much control over. Meanwhile, I suspect the truth of the matter is rather somewhere in the middle, as it often tends to be. This 'idiot guitarist' is probably off somewhere, having a good time whilst you're concerning yourself with slagging him off to what you probably anticipated would be a wholly appreciative and agreeable audience. Lets face it, we've all met 'him'. The 'A-Hole' is probably still in the same pub as he was last night doing a very similar thing to another guitarist friend - I had a txt last night off a mate telling me that he'd just been 'blagged' by the same guy on the same subject concerning his band. It seems he's currently doing all he can to bore people and alienate himself from other local musicians by telling them that their guitarists are sh*t and he could do a better job. Good luck with that. It's probably worth remembering the old advanced driver adage: 'you're never as good as you think you are'. I'm sure there are plenty of professional musicians out there who have seen your band and think you're total hacks, that you were sh*t, that your sound sucks, that your two guitarists (who you spent so much time giving the metaphorical fellatio on page one) were dire and couldn't keep up in a Sex Pistols tribute band, that the singer was off key and the bassist was self indulgent, ugly, talentless and was repelling women away from the stage. But then I'm sure anyone who has spent some time at corporate functions has seen a wealth of useless 'corporate' bands who absolutely reek but think they are awesome. [/quote] Yeah, spot on. Do you write for the NME? Like I said earlier, I've no 'axes' to grind - I'm a decent guy who enjoys what he does and rather than giving metaphorical blow jobs, I'm just appreciative of who I play with. I was just 'setting the scene' regarding the sort of stuff the band has done. Yes, there are loads of sh*tty bands. Function or not. I couldn't give two fcks whether you like it or not. I was providing some background. As I said earlier. I've had my rant and it's all good and the more I think about it, the more I laugh about the sad man.

Michael Henderson's bassline to 'Signed Sealed Delivered' off Stevie Wonder's 'Live at the Talk of the Town' album. It's a great take on the classic Bob Babbitt line and a most excellent album.

[quote name='chaypup' timestamp='1355836226' post='1903327'] +1 I'm afraid. Also, [/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Is lifted from somewhere- possibly Spinal Tap so it suggest he may be having some fun with you[/font][/color] [/quote] he didn't say that to me!! That's me using a phrase to sum him up!! Each to their own - he's a tool. It's over now, I've had my moan.

Well, some very valid points made all, and not so..... I've had a chance to get it off my chest as this guy was someone I went to school with and he's basically 'slagging off' my band mates which annoyed me. We rehearsed last night and were chatting about it as the other guys weren't aware what he was saying to me and at first were a bit like "oh, he just doesn't have many mates and clearly mustn't like his own band. He's harmless enough but an obvious tool" as he's spoken to them after gigs previously and has tried to be 'matey', but still with his 'edge'. Once I told them that he was basically saying that the guitarists weren't good enough we all just laughed about him and said that he clearly just 'doesn't know.then called him a massive tool. They reminded me of a conversation with him a few months ago where he asked one of our guitards who he liked - Ste replied "Paul Kossoff". Tool replied "who is that?".........and his band play Free songs apparently......oh dear. Just a shame he feels the need to try and be a bell end and be Mr Competitive. Music isn't a competition after all. There's usually something to appreciate in most forms of it. We then played 'Back in Black' and both guitarists did their best (worst) impressions of him and both spent the song tapping and playing bad solos. There's much worse stuff going on in the world - look at Newtown...........so we can draw a line under it, have a laugh about him and humour him and don't engage him in conversation again. Simples. It's almost a bit Spinal Tap - "My Solos are my trademark". I think this sums him up perfectly - "Jimmy Page was 21 when he wrote 'Stairway to Heaven', I could play it when I was 18 - I think that says a lot..." Cheers Gents!

will do.........ha, anytime! Nothing 'public' for a while but will let you know.......

.....and I'm certainly not deluded. I play music because I love it and am addicted to it. I play in this band now because it's great fun having a laugh and making music with friends. Yes it pays well, yes I've played in some awesome venues but it is what it is. Work in a covers band playing other people's songs. It's just that we're pretty good and professional. I'm never going to write songs like Paul McCartney, or sell records like Chris Martin - but I'm / we're not trying to. We're just trying to make a living playing music. Like I said. I'm privileged really. There's plenty of threads with unhappy bands on here and I'm glad I'm not in that situation.

[quote name='TimR' timestamp='1355758643' post='1902269'] To be honest you come across in your post as just as deluded and arrogant as this other guy. You've played in the same one band for 12 years, with the same guys from school. You're playing big gigs for big money and that makes you bigger and better than him? Good luck, but there's more to music. TBH, with those big gigs on I'm surprised you have time for your kickboxing. I think you should probably chill out and have a good look at what's going on around you. [/quote] Tim - you're not correct - this band has been playing together as musicians for that long, but only doing these bigger gigs in a 'serious' format for 5 or so years.As I stated, before we just played together as a laugh as we were college mates and were all in different originals bands. I was in an 'originals' band between 2002 and 2007 that released albums, videos, did BBC Maida Vale sessions, recorded in Rockfield and all sorts of other studios, went on tours with well known bands and got to reasonable placings in charts. I haven't been limited to just this band and this type of music / market. I've depped for other bands and done all sorts of other stuff like orchestral and brass, but all of that wasn't really relevant to this topic and I don't need to 'justify' myself to you. What I do now, or have or haven't done doesn't make me bigger or better - I'm not deluded of arrogant at all and I'm sure if you and I met you would see that I'm a sound bloke - there's countless others on here who are better musicians than me, done bigger and better things and are no doubt really nice guys to boot. I certainly wouldn't come to one of your gigs and tell your band mates that the bassist wasn't good enough and that they'd be better off with me. I'd come to enjoy the music, the night out and appreciate some good music hopefully. Even if I thought it was rubbish, I wouldn't tell you how I could make it better! This guy has limited experience and wanted to force his views and opinions on me. I decided not to listen ultimately but I also wanted to get it off my chest. Regarding how or what I spend my time doing and how I manage to fit in bass, wife, child, kickboxing, stamp collecting or even knitting is no concern of yours.

[quote name='Big_Stu' timestamp='1355755778' post='1902210'] ............. while all the band starts unbuckling their belts........... [/quote] as we call him boy...........

No worries, gents. Will do. We're now in the midst of Christmas party hell at the Grosvenor Pulford hotel, then onto NYE at Chester Racecourse, with a mate's wedding in between - our old sound eng who is now the mons eng for the Maccabees. He used to tech for the Wombats so both bands are coming so we might do a 'dive in band' thing..... Ha, yeah, get the SAS out! I was so close to inflicting some hurt on him! Thankfully, I spend a lot of time doing kickboxing and Muay Thai so ironically, it makes me more patient! He just annoyed by by implying our guitarists 'weren't up to his standard' - which they are and more, and far more experienced and cooler - but they know what to play and when........

Honestly, I love music but it does attract some right bell ends too!

[quote name='charic' timestamp='1355744974' post='1902003'] Convince him that his own project would have much better prospects, I mean... your JUST a cover band after all [/quote] Ha, yeah, maybe I should.but then why would he keep asking to join?!! Though I bet his guitars cost more than both your guitarist's rigs. Always the way For sure - Steve has a Blues Deville and Matt has a battered Musicman 65 212. As they say - it's all in the fingers!! [quote name='Spoombung' timestamp='1355744801' post='1902000'] Give him an audition. You might grow to love him. [/quote] Don't need him, he's not good enough, he's a massive tw@T and I'll probably end up putting him in the triangle!! [quote name='tonybassplayer' timestamp='1355744918' post='1902001'] Think you may just have found the holy grail !! [/quote] Yes I have! They're ace and we have a right laugh - we've all got our 'nuances' but it's all good. We went to 6th form together, we're mates and they're all ace - got all the technique and chops you need but know when to use it and how!! We're all married with kids now and they call us Uncle whatever. It's great. They don't use their powers for evil!!

Anyway, had to get it off my chest as I've been getting really wound up with how rude he was, how deaf he must be, how ignorant he is and how I wish someone steals all his gear.

Ain't no mountain high enough - Jamerson line from the Marvin Gaye and Tammi Terrell version Trouble on Double time - Free Jackie Wilson said - Van Morrison - think it was Bill Church on bass(?)

They sound like a pair of pub rock pricks! I used to do the sound in a large 600 cap venue and the amount of unmusical guitards that 'needed' their amps on 11 were unreal! Apparently I didn't know what I was talking about! Show them this - http://barefacedbass.com/uploads/BGM57,%20Aug2010.pdf Sadly, most of the sh*t musicians I've come across have "all the gear and no idea", yet the proper talented ones are easy to work with and know the drill. You've done the right thing by f***ing them off!!