LukeFRC

[quote name='Wooks79' timestamp='1427492948' post='2731207'] Get hold of one of the older Barefaced Vintage 2x15s if you can, they are nice and wide, and sound excellent! I think yours is the super15, so the vintage is wider - [/quote] go on - give us a wee description of how those three cabs sound...

I would have thought getting hold of darkstars was a bigger problem than the body!

[quote name='Chienmortbb' timestamp='1427066384' post='2725491'] Good points. The typeface for the controls will changed to a uniform style and size. The control spacing will be equal too, I just need to play around with the control names a bit as the longer names screw with the spacing. The Can'd Heat' is an abreviation of the place I live and I thought it fun in a Lynyrd Skynyrd kind of way. If I keep it, the font will change. As for the mute switch, you have caught me out. Front panel mute is part of the design but I forgot to include it on the drawings. I like all three colours in different ways and will try the black one first as my laser printer is monochrome. However I can get the red and orange printed at Staples for about £1 [/quote] Looks good - the only other thought I had was.... If the jack inputs should go on the bottom level - that war the sticky out bit of the jack doesn't get in the way of the controls and you have more space across the top to mount controls. ?

[quote name='Chienmortbb' timestamp='1427043980' post='2725005'] I have mocked up three options for the front panel and would appreciate comments. There is a black, red and orange option. I tried other colours but none of the worked. They are rough and ready and all need some tarting up but you get the idea So which one is more rock and roll?<p> [/quote] text wise the 3rd one is better- but - keep the type all the same size/ weight and in line across the top. I also know why you've spaced them as you have, and it kinda makes sense but visually in 3d - and also in terms of the ergonomics of the thing I would space the knobs out equally to each other across the top. Colourwise I like the orange one - (but not the type choice for can'd heat) . No mute button?

thanks for warning me, I'll avoid that part of the forum for a few days.

[quote name='Bankai' timestamp='1426979298' post='2724462'] I used to work in a large guitar shop, and I got to play around with every high end brand bass there is. There were only ever two basses that stood out and made me wish I had the money to buy them. One was a Sandberg VM5, the other was a Rickenbacker 4001. I ran all these basses through the same amps, same cables etc so Rick must have done something right. Other brands I had used were Fender, Sadowsky, Lakland, G&L, Ibanez, Gibson, et al. [/quote] sssshhh expereince has no place in this thread!

[quote name='stubass' timestamp='1426976510' post='2724438'] FTF! Who would do such a thing! I almost cried when I saw that headstock. That is if it's actually original. Give the dude the benefit of the doubt though. [url="http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/161645457568?_mwBanner=1"]http://m.ebay.co.uk/...568?_mwBanner=1[/url] [/quote] which bit (if any) do you think could be original?

[quote name='Bronner' timestamp='1426937412' post='2723650'] People can choose whatever gear they want. That's a false argument. Nor do I care that people own these basses (if you read carefully I used to own one). The thread is for people who are considering buying one: Look at the title: [b] "Why [color=#ff0000][b]I [/b][/color]sold [color=#ff0000][b]my[/b][/color] Rickenbacker Bass"[/b] See the words "I" and "my"? [/quote] yes - that was the title and your first post - but the 3 pages of following goes beyond "I dislike this brands' model of bass so sold it" towards a some kind of vitriolic rickenbacker hate - where people with differing opinions - or just less hatred are giving their opinions and you are taking that as some kind of "argument". This is Basschat - we talk rubbish about basses, we all play different music, have different needs and skill levels and so on. I don't think there are any unanimously held positions on anything - if people have different opinions their voicing them isn't them "pouncing on" you, and no one's trying to prove or disprove anything with an "argument."

you know some folk spend a lot of money on big Landrovers - even though they use them to cruse around the city, other folk get big two seater german sports cars, others big estates, and others fancy hybrid cars.... Now essentially they all do the same as my 14 year old saxo (CAP clean value of around £500) - but I'm not going to waste time.... well having any emotion towards people who buy different cars - so what? I have two warwicks - some people hate warwicks, I could have got a fender for the price, or a secondhand ACG, maybe the aCG would be have been the better bass? Maybe some recording studios would prefer a traditional Jazz bass tone than the wider warwick tone... I don't know - they are just different. Other folk choose other things and well that's their prerogative. So yes, the rick is a 1950's design still being made today, yes you can buy other basses that are "better" in every way - and I'm sure some Basslab, Steinberger or Status carbon thing is "better" than any fender variant - but some people have different priorities - deal with it.

[quote name='alexclaber' timestamp='1426806396' post='2722321'] I know it's a bit confusing because no-one else really does this, but the LF800 doesn't really act as a subwoofer when being used with an FR800 rig. The FR800s are producing lows too - they're not being highpassed at ~100Hz like normal tops. So many bands will only need two FR800s for their purposes. For louder/larger gigs they might add one LF800 to increase the total output of the system in the lower frequencies (which is always the region that runs out of output first). For larger still gigs they might add two LF800s. The LF800s should be placed wherever suits but ideally against a solid wall or in a corner. With the lows coming from the FR800s and the LF800(s) you will not be able to discern the LF800 as a separate sound source and by locating it in a different place and ideally by some solid boundaries you'll energise the whole venue more evenly with low frequency content. I got the idea of true full-range main speakers plus a sub purely for extra output/headroom from Meyer Sound! [url="http://www.meyersound.com/product/x-10/"]http://www.meyersoun...m/product/x-10/[/url] [url="http://www.meyersound.com/product/x-800/"]http://www.meyersoun.../product/x-800/[/url] [/quote] I don't doubt that these are great PA .... but don't they have the ability of being amazing bass amplification too? With the DSP squeezing that bit extra out of the driver and enabling a small light and powerful cab punch in the same way the Bergantino IP and I guess the AER stuff does - I guess if you asked me where the bass amp market would end up going I would say there- small and light and with a power amp and DSP limiting etc to make the most of it. In that context it's not even that expensive - a secondhand ip112 still goes for about £1000 - if you can find someone willing to sell. Don't underplay the bass guitar amplification possibilities - If I had know about this a month ago I would have placed an order! (as it was I picked up something else )

[quote name='cameltoe' timestamp='1426807097' post='2722333'] That logo looks odd to me. Anyone else? Especially the 's/n' before the serial number. I've only seen that on Chinese Squier neck plates before and certainly not MIJ headstocks. But then I've never researched it so I'm likely wrong. [/quote] the s/n typeface looks wrong too - theres a few other things that set the alarm bells ringing, but I would avoid this if it were me.

I love that colour - think I've seen it on here or somewhere. Lovely - I wouldn't mind it!

[quote name='lou24d53' timestamp='1426688490' post='2720802'] See, that comment above from CamdenRob surprises me also. I admit though, I am guilty of making incorrect judgements / guesses of what I 'assume' a users standard or level - call it what you want - to be based on the quality of the gear they display in the sig. So I'm seeing mentions of Wal and I automatically start thinking, "hmmm, must be a session player or semi-pro at least!"... [/quote] I think you might find that people with other professional jobs might end up with a bit more money to spend on a Wal than a pro.... Nout wrong with that either. Whats my level? I don't tend to play enough, just in my church band. I've been in other bands - want to find a bunch of folk to play with here too... I'm not some grand master of the bass... I don't know as much theory as most (but know a bit more than I let on) .... and never had a lesson in my life.... don't know many "classics" and have tended to play in originals projects most the time.... but at same time chuck me in a band with a drummer I know I can do ok and better than average as most my "learning" as playing live with folk rather than learning from books.

[quote name='Bill Fitzmaurice' timestamp='1426684330' post='2720716'] A test of this sort will only tell you how the speakers you're listening to it on sound. If that's a full sized stereo system with flat response from 30-15kHz you might glean some benefit, but even then the gear used to make the recording is just as significant as the source. If it's a typical computer speaker the test is meaningless. Even listened to on a good system the test is of dubious value, as the main difference between how different drivers sound will be heard off-axis. A meaningful test would be done with the mic placed 45 degrees off-axis. [/quote] ssssshhh we know all that but it doesn't mean that it's not vaguely interesting - if anything to (possibly) repute the whole 15s sound darker than 12s sound less punchy than 10's stuff we hear on forums all the time... [quote name='warwickhunt' timestamp='1426750307' post='2721448'] I'm part basing mine upon my previous listening to the 15 and 12 TKS cabs, that and the second one sounds most different. [/quote] know all!

[quote name='dood' timestamp='1426631862' post='2720248'] Similar thinking here - actually something I've been *trying* to do for many many years! Who can remember the ISP rig I had eh?! I'd like to hear these and then have a pair of FR's stacked - maybe a third just..well.. because. [/quote] Can you pull your basschat card and borrow one for a review for us all?

I also would say that IMO unless you build and design something yourself* the EQ-01 is probably the best and only filter based preamp out there to get you into "Wal - like" territory - it will take you a good while to learn how to adjust it on the fly (and also that it's best not to) ultimately you'll have to do what I did and make a leap of faith. [size=1]* google state variable filter [/size]

[quote name='Bronner' timestamp='1426600160' post='2719694'] 1. Did you use the passive MEC pickups that came with the Warwick? 2. Your bass is fretless? Sound clips please. If you have some sound clips or video of the bass, I'd love to hear it; that's exactly the type of information I'm looking for. And in the process you'd be helping ACG sell some preamps. The issue with after-market parts always is knowing how it will sound in a particular instrument. [/quote] nope - my Warwick is an old Streamer Stage One and would originally have had Active MEC pups, It now has passive barts Nope it has frets and I do have a very long MP3 of some random playing at church that was recorded straight from the desk. It's not that great but you can hear the bass... PM if you want it. I would say that as a preamp it can give you so so many options that my awful playing isn't really going to tell you that much...

[quote name='EBS_freak' timestamp='1426546933' post='2719298'] Lightweight subs are certainly very interesting but not sold on the tops based on the specs and price... [/quote] is that for PA use or bass?

[quote name='skelf' timestamp='1426542284' post='2719225'] Hi I know there have been several fitted to Waricks and as far as I know people are happy with the setup. [/quote] Yep - me for one.

I want. Don't tell Mrs FRC - I just picked up a lovely green mesa walkabout scout - no idea how I would justify this one to her! It would have to be one in one out... and still don't think I'ld get away with it!

[quote name='mrtcat' timestamp='1426538769' post='2719155'] With a frequency range of 42Hz - 160Hz there's not a pre amp in the world that will make it sound like a bass amp. It's clearly a dedicated sub..............AND I WANT A PAIR!!! [/quote] 16 kHz !!!!

I had a GK 1001rb for a short while... if the amp is anything like it... turn the master output volume up near full and use the gain to control the volume and see what that sounds like.

[quote name='Kenny Gair' timestamp='1426005999' post='2713337'] The Warwick puts out about 450W at 4 Ohms, which pretty much OK for small venues but if I grab an 8 Ohm cab that produces about the same output, it will then allow me to add another cab once I have convinced myself it's OK to wave bye bye to my fridge shaped lover. I really do love the 810 but really don't love shifting it. [/quote] poppycock! [b]450w at 4ohms[/b] will tell you the firstly the cabs power handling (either thermal or displacement based) and the cab's nominal resistance. It won't tell you how loud the thing will go. My guess is that the Barefaced Big twin would go louder than the either of your current cabs.