Joebass

Nice transcription Bilbo. That's a great track - had to learn it! [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iv03l2FTaT4&feature=youtu.be[/media]

There are a few Yellowjackets charts in each of the three new real books. Joe

Hi Myke, They're called courtesy accidentals. They are just a reminder of the correct pitch, if the note had been sharpened/flattened in the previous bar. Joe.

[quote name='allwaysgroovin' timestamp='1338852855' post='1680179'] where can i read/hear this advice? are there particular recordings or articles that you can point me in the direction of? [/quote] Nathan East - the bussiness of bass [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfxYjQ9ZuSU[/media]

[quote name='visog' timestamp='1333736538' post='1605963'] JoeBass, I'm no expert but this doesn't look like a good example of Garrison right-hand fingering as the 3rd finger isn't used. I'd go: A-string: D=T, E=1, F=2 D-string: G=3, A=T E-string: B=1, C=2, D=3 I.e. keep the T123 sequence going. Thoughts from experts? Visog [/quote] It's just one approach, Matt uses thumb and two fingers a lot - especially for triplets.

What you're practising is pretty much on the money. You should be comfortable with any fingering for scales, just keep doing it until you don't have to think about your right hand anymore. That said, the easiest way to finger scales with that technique is to play 3 notes per string. Take that dorian up to the 9th and reapeat on the way back down.

It's only one guitar, with a capo at fret two. The tempo's half what you have, so the rhythms should be quaver's/semiquavers. Should look something like this:

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[quote name='paul_5' timestamp='1331674407' post='1577112'] Try this, should help you find out where the harmonics are, and what pitch they are: [attachment=102433:Harmonics.pdf] Cheers, Paul [/quote] That's a handy chart. I don't like the spelling on it though. Should be spelt as triads on the E,A and D strings.(E,G#,B-A,C#E etc). The flats make it look more complex than it is.

Those strings look like the Warwick red label strings to me, they're Warwicks budget strings. I bought a set once and they looked just like.

[quote name='gilmour' timestamp='1325863615' post='1489027'] That really surprises me. I get that TAB takes into account tuning differences, but it surprises me that notation does the same. It makes sense (to a point) if all the strings are tuned down the same amount (i.e a half step so you're playing all flats on open strings) but what about when they aren't tuned evenly, i.e drop D or some of the open tunings guitar players use? Not trying to troll just genuinely interested as that really surprises me. Ta. [/quote] The notation is only transposed when the bass/guitar is tuned relatively to standard tuning. For example, D tuning is standard tuning down 1 tone, If the notation wasn't transposed you'd read a C, and have to play a D which can get very confusing. Transposing the notation up 1 tone eliminates this step and you can read as if playing an instrument in standard tuning. Other tunings, such as drop D or G tuning on the guitar, are written at concert as these cannot be related to standard tuning.

[quote name='Soliloquy' timestamp='1325796932' post='1488024'] I bow to your superior knowledge, and can't ber songs toe bothered to argue . But I'd be well annoyed if I arrived on a gig and had to down tune to play a chart for a song. I have played lots of charts, a lot of Stevie Wondo. Most of my gigs involve reading, and they've always been written out as heard. I have the chart for 'I wish' in front of me now, key signature is Eb minor, notated as played and heard. [/quote] You're right, you'd never see a chart on a gig that you would have to down-tune for but that's a different matter altogether - we're talking about a note for note transcription of a particular performance intended to be played as closely to the original as possible. Not a working chart intended for sight reading on a gig.

[quote name='Soliloquy' timestamp='1325795166' post='1487970'] Well no, it's the TAB that says to detune, I'm sure the strings are labelled Eb/Ab/Db/Gb. You play the notation as written E is E, A is A, Bb is Bb etc. [/quote] No, that's completely wrong. Check out any song in a transcription book that features down-tuned guitars. The notation is ALWAYS transposed so that you can read it on a transposed instrument and sound at the correct pitch. Here's an example: [url="http://www.onlinesheetmusic.com/get-the-funk-out-p382346.aspx"]http://www.onlinesheetmusic.com/get-the-funk-out-p382346.aspx[/url]

[quote name='Soliloquy' timestamp='1325791421' post='1487873'] I'm sure Nathan detunes his bass by a semitone. I guess that's why there's the discrepancy between the TAB and the notation. I'm sure Bass player magazine say to detune. I've got a transcription somewhere that I did a few years ago and it's pretty much the same as in the magazine, as played being the same as 'as heard'. [/quote] Consider this, you de-tune your bass as indicated and then play along with the notation - you would sound a semitone lower than the recording. That's why the notation should be written up a semitone.

Here's the chords for the intro. The original's in Eb but they've re-harmonised so much it doesn't really have a key center anymore. Great band!

This one goes down as low as you need. Can't see any practical use for 2 bpm though - that's one beat every 30 seconds! [url="http://www.webmetronome.com/"]http://www.webmetronome.com/[/url]

Here's another one. Joe

Here's a transcription of the chords. It's capo'd so if you want the chords as they "sound" for other instruments you'll have to transpose them all up a perfect 4th. Cheers, Joe

Here's a transcription of that tune. Joe.

They're all chords within the key of E: III(7) VI II V(sus)

It's all in E. The verse chords are: D/E, E.

Here's part of a transcription of Matt Garrisons great piece "Duet" from his first album. [attachment=75479:DUET.pdf] Matt used a capo at the second fret on the original, which is great fun to try but you'll have to shift everything up. The piece mainly revolves around the Phrygian dominant scale, which is what Matt uses for all those fast runs. It's a great scale to learn(If you don't already know it) and the fifth mode of the Harmonic minor scale: 1 b2 3 4 5 b6 b7 In this case: G, Ab, B, C, D, Eb, F Have fun.

[quote name='chaypup' post='1159187' date='Mar 12 2011, 12:14 PM']When you change the tuning, a C is still a C. It's just on, for example, the 2nd fret rather than the 3rd. I wouldn't call 3rd fret on the 2nd string a C when I've detuned. So the score would stay the same, but a tab would change.[/quote] Sorry, but you're wrong there. It's exactly the same principle as woodwind instruments, i.e. so that the player doesn't have to sight transpose or learn new fingerings/positions. Logically, if you describe a bass in standard tuning as being at concert pitch, then a bass tuned down a half step would be in Cb and the necessary transposition would need to be made to the score.

[quote name='chaypup' post='1159054' date='Mar 12 2011, 10:29 AM']When a bass guitar is in different tuning, it's still in concert pitch! You're merely changing the note that is produced with an open string, not what key the instrument is in. Tabs, would change, for sure, but there would be no diffrence in the way a score was written surely? EDIT: Have now read what you were referring to - essentially we were saying the same thing! Sorry...... [/quote] When you change the tuning of a bass it's not in concert pitch any more (e.g. when the player reads a C a B is sounded) so you have to compensate by changing the key of the written music. Here's an example: [url="http://www.sheetmusicdirect.com/se/ID_No/50205/Product.aspx"]get the funk out[/url] [url="http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqP76XWHQI0"]youtube[/url] P.S. The excess naturals in do I do are from writing in B and auto transposing to C without proofing.

Quite a lot of mistakes in that transcription though, chords are wrong too. Also, when transcribing for a de-tuned instrument, the notes/key should be written as played, not as sounded. i.e. the score should have been written in C so you could still read it on a transposed instrument. (If you de-tuned your bass and read the notes, your first note would be a Bb) This version is much better (but incomplete and very raw/unpolished): [attachment=74596:DO_I_DO.pdf] Also they got the slap riff at the end wrong, here's a correct version: [attachment=74597:DO_I_DO_Slap_Riff.png]