wesfinn Posted May 3, 2010 Share Posted May 3, 2010 Recently (due to lazyness mainly) I have been plugging my P bass straight into the Desk and running out of the PA. The sound is incredible, no messing about just a flat signal. It sits so well in the mix in the country rock band I'm playing with. I might just retire my amp set up which I have spent years trying to put the right combination together! It sure is a lot easier to just carry bass around. anyone else a fan of this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyTravis Posted May 3, 2010 Share Posted May 3, 2010 I used to carry an ART Z-Direct for this very same reason. But i missed the back of my pants flapping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deathpanda Posted May 3, 2010 Share Posted May 3, 2010 Depends on how good the PA and amp is. The one in the band room I go to sounds like complete cack, the one in the performance hall in college sounds luscious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MoJo Posted May 3, 2010 Share Posted May 3, 2010 [quote name='AndyTravis' post='826976' date='May 3 2010, 11:30 PM']I used to carry an ART Z-Direct for this very same reason. But i missed the back of my pants flapping.[/quote] Have you thought about developping a flatulence problem? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wesfinn Posted May 3, 2010 Author Share Posted May 3, 2010 I must admit it is a bit odd hearing the bass coming from the speakers on stands at first in a rehearsal but once i got used to it I love it! I have a tone hammer tht i take around too but don;t seem to need it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LukeFRC Posted May 3, 2010 Share Posted May 3, 2010 The two P basses I've had also sound fantastic though the desk. Part of the reason I like P basses is I know that if needs be i can get a good tone just like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibob Posted May 3, 2010 Share Posted May 3, 2010 Can't think of anything worse than having no backline! Horrible! Si Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyTravis Posted May 3, 2010 Share Posted May 3, 2010 [quote name='bassman2790' post='826979' date='May 3 2010, 11:34 PM']Have you thought about developping a flatulence problem?[/quote] Developping? It's already here, just a different flap altogether. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wesfinn Posted May 3, 2010 Author Share Posted May 3, 2010 [quote name='Sibob' post='826985' date='May 3 2010, 11:35 PM']Can't think of anything worse than having no backline! Horrible! Si[/quote] I will probably retract this all next rehearsal for my pop band and use the aguilar rig. I just havn't plugged it in for ages! haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crez5150 Posted May 3, 2010 Share Posted May 3, 2010 Most of the gigs I'm doing these days I'm getting my own monitor mix of bass..... as long as the systems is good it'll sound great Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldGit Posted May 4, 2010 Share Posted May 4, 2010 Is this a large PA with monitors? How do your hear yourself? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Funk Posted May 4, 2010 Share Posted May 4, 2010 [quote name='OldGit' post='827099' date='May 4 2010, 08:42 AM']Is this a large PA with monitors? How do your hear yourself?[/quote] Good questions. I find that P and J basses sound great plugged straight into the desk. The only problem is ensuring you can hear yourself from venue to venue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wesfinn Posted May 4, 2010 Author Share Posted May 4, 2010 The country band I play with is small venues/just for fun kind of gigs so the PA is never amazing but its been fine so far. I could get away with it with any venue with my session stuff as we use in ear monitoring, though they do insist that I use an amp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crez5150 Posted May 4, 2010 Share Posted May 4, 2010 This is becoming my standard setup - Bass > GK MB2 500 (used as pre-amp)> Desk (Soundcraft Vi 1) > monitor mix (Wedge or IEM Venue dependant) JBL SRX 712m I'm finding this works really well, I'm using the Sennehsier IE8 IEM units that work really well for this application J Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTUK Posted May 4, 2010 Share Posted May 4, 2010 If you are ALL happy with the monitoring then fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldGit Posted May 4, 2010 Share Posted May 4, 2010 [quote name='wesfinn' post='827157' date='May 4 2010, 09:56 AM']The country band I play with is small venues/just for fun kind of gigs so the PA is never amazing but its been fine so far. I could get away with it with any venue with my session stuff as we use in ear monitoring, though they do insist that I use an amp.[/quote] IEM's? ah OK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibob Posted May 4, 2010 Share Posted May 4, 2010 I just couldn't put all my faith into in-house monitors, some of the places I've played couldn't handle any type of bass frequency! Rather just cover all bases and take my amp! In-ears are a bit different, but I'd still miss the air being moved behind me! Si Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lozbass Posted May 4, 2010 Share Posted May 4, 2010 (edited) I stopped using backline as far as possible towards the close of my gigging career. The major advantages were (i) less hassle and gear to carry, and (ii) fantastic sound. The bands I was working with used great engineers/PA companies and the direct sound (a Status Series II or Gibson Ripper into a DI box) was just amazing - almost a spritual uplift. A combination of side-fills and wedges was more than sufficient for monitoring (this was years ago, long before IEM). Should I ever get tempted back into gigging (mightily unlikely), the backline free route would be my favoured approach. The best bass tones I've ever achieved have been without backline. Edited May 4, 2010 by lozbass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chest Rockwell Posted May 4, 2010 Share Posted May 4, 2010 works for Geddy Lee too, he just uses washing machines onstage (I guess he has some gizmos sorted from going into the desk tho) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldGit Posted May 4, 2010 Share Posted May 4, 2010 I think for your average weekend warrior trying to get FoH for bass and IEM's to work for all venues and all members of the band is hard. Our drummer is talking about using IEM's for monitoring rather than his wedge. Problem is there's no bass in the monitors we don't all want the same mix in our wedges that he wants in his IEM's. It just seems very complicated. Plus I want the bass sound I hear to be under my control. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crez5150 Posted May 4, 2010 Share Posted May 4, 2010 [quote name='OldGit' post='827402' date='May 4 2010, 01:23 PM']I think for your average weekend warrior trying to get FoH for bass and IEM's to work for all venues and all members of the band is hard. Our drummer is talking about using IEM's for monitoring rather than his wedge. Problem is there's no bass in the monitors we don't all want the same mix in our wedges that he wants in his IEM's. It just seems very complicated. Plus I want the bass sound I hear to be under my control.[/quote] I think it depends on how many mixes you need really.... also how many sends/Aux you have on your desk to handle the mixes. The funk band I play with have now moved over to rehearsing with IEMS completely..... it's fantastic as the drummer can use his Roland kit and we all get an overall mix. sound quality is fab and we can rehearse in my studio at the back of my house till into the early hours without disturbing anyone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldGit Posted May 4, 2010 Share Posted May 4, 2010 [quote name='crez5150' post='827418' date='May 4 2010, 01:37 PM']I think it depends on how many mixes you need really.... also how many sends/Aux you have on your desk to handle the mixes. The funk band I play with have now moved over to rehearsing with IEMS completely..... it's fantastic as the drummer can use his Roland kit and we all get an overall mix. sound quality is fab and we can rehearse in my studio at the back of my house till into the early hours without disturbing anyone[/quote] More than we have and more PA ooomph than we have too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjones Posted May 9, 2010 Share Posted May 9, 2010 (edited) Hmmmm, sound engineers do tend to put a lot of compression on bass. That's ok with the louder stuff but the last time I D.I'd and just used monitors onstage to hear myself there were no dynamics. However quietly I played all I could hear was bass guitar drowning everything else out. Of course that may have just been the sound guy being a bit heavy handed with the compressor but I do like a bit of control over my level onstage. Edited May 9, 2010 by gjones Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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