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There's always the [url="http://www.yamaha.com/guitars/products/productdetail/0,,CNTID%25253D60047%252526CNTYP%25253DPRODUCT,00.html"]Yamaha BEX-4 bass[/url] - mixes magnetic & piezo pickups with active EQ in a semi body with a flamed top. I love them & have two (in Gretsch-style orange & dark blueburst) - having a clearout at the mo so might have one of these up for grabs soon actually...

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[quote name='bentdice' post='585019' date='Aug 30 2009, 11:20 AM']There's always the [url="http://www.yamaha.com/guitars/products/productdetail/0,,CNTID%25253D60047%252526CNTYP%25253DPRODUCT,00.html"]Yamaha BEX-4 bass[/url] - mixes magnetic & piezo pickups with active EQ in a semi body with a flamed top. I love them & have two (in Gretsch-style orange & dark blueburst) - having a clearout at the mo so might have one of these up for grabs soon actually...

B.[/quote]
Well, I was only posting Epiphone's claim and I don't want to be defending them but...

If you read the blurb in the link it's not a piezo and the magnetic pickup is unusual too.

[quote]Stereo Electronics: At the heart of this bass is the revolutionary NanoFlex(tm) and NanoMag(tm) pickup combination. Custom-made for this bass by Shadow Germany, these pickups provide a wide range of tones suitable for almost any type of music. Under the saddle, the NanoFlex senses the vibrations of the strings AND the body of the instrument simultaneously. Not a piezo, this exclusive, low-impedance 7-layer element has active electronics and 100% shielding to ensure no sound is lost and no hum is introduced. The NanoMag is located right at the end of the fingerboard - just like in Epiphone's award-winning Ultra-II guitar. Positioned at this sweet-spot, the NanoMag captures all the subtle nuances and harmonics of every string. Like the NanoFlex, it too is low-impedance with active electronics on-board but it features a tiny air-coil, 3 samarium-cobalt magnets and silver-platinum shielding for a hum-free output. Both pickups are controlled by an active electronic system featuring a Master volume, pickup Blend and individual bass and treble controls for each pickup.[/quote]

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[quote name='Eight' post='585237' date='Aug 30 2009, 05:14 PM']Thanks for posting. I really want to try some full scale semi-hollow/chambered basses at the minute and this Epiphone looks very interesting.[/quote]
I fancy the fretless version.

They are on the Thomann site at £550.79 for fretted and £590.20 for fretless.

[url="http://www.thomann.de/gb/search_dir.html?xsid=21f508ffe8d02896ab120348c256823c&sw=epiphone+triumph-II+bass&x=5&y=7"]http://www.thomann.de/gb/search_dir.html?x...amp;x=5&y=7[/url]

Not in stock yet however.

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[quote name='EssentialTension' post='585113' date='Aug 30 2009, 01:53 PM']Well, I was only posting Epiphone's claim and I don't want to be defending them but...

If you read the blurb in the link it's not a piezo and the magnetic pickup is unusual too.[/quote]
Wasn't having a go (apologies if it read that way), but there are obvious similarities with the (now out of production) BEX & some of Rob Allen's models. Really like the look of this - I'd love a [url="http://www.roballenguitars.com/Deep2.html"]Rob Allen Deep 4 bass[/url], but it's way over my budget - looks like the Epiphone could be a decent substitute. If only the fretless came in black...

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[quote name='bentdice' post='585274' date='Aug 30 2009, 06:09 PM']Wasn't having a go (apologies if it read that way),[/quote]
No apology necessary. :)

[quote name='bentdice' post='585274' date='Aug 30 2009, 06:09 PM']but there are obvious similarities with the (now out of production) BEX & some of Rob Allen's models.[/quote]
I agree about the similarities.

[quote name='bentdice' post='585274' date='Aug 30 2009, 06:09 PM']Really like the look of this - I'd love a [url="http://www.roballenguitars.com/Deep2.html"]Rob Allen Deep 4 bass[/url], but it's way over my budget - looks like the Epiphone could be a decent substitute.[/quote]
Certainly more affordable, I'm quite keen to hear one.

[quote name='bentdice' post='585274' date='Aug 30 2009, 06:09 PM']If only the fretless came in black...[/quote]
+1 on that.

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[quote name='Soulfinger' post='586721' date='Sep 1 2009, 06:20 PM']Damn! I´ve been GAS free for over a year, but I really want that fretless. If it sounds good, that is.

Don´t see myself spending that kind of money on an Epiphone though...[/quote]
So there's a few of us waiting for someone to buy a new one, not like it, and sell it to [s]me[/s] us for £300.

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First post, wooo!

This look really good. I love some of the things Epiphone do when they're not just making cheaper Gibsons.

Another guitar in the hollowbody marked that's worth considering is the Dean Rhapsody. It's not the usual Dean fare. Their website leads me to believe that they don't make a standard, 4-string, fretted guitar anymore. They only have fretless, 8-string and 12-string on there. They have only the one pickup, but it sounds good, and obviously where and how you pick plays a big part in the sound.

Worth finding the 4-string fretted version second hand, though.

[url="http://www.deanguitars.com/home.php"]http://www.deanguitars.com/home.php[/url]

Dean: some awesome guitars and an awful website

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[quote name='EssentialTension' post='585246' date='Aug 30 2009, 05:35 PM']I fancy the fretless version.

They are on the Thomann site at £550.79 for fretted and £590.20 for fretless.

[url="http://www.thomann.de/gb/search_dir.html?xsid=21f508ffe8d02896ab120348c256823c&sw=epiphone+triumph-II+bass&x=5&y=7"]http://www.thomann.de/gb/search_dir.html?x...amp;x=5&y=7[/url]

Not in stock yet however.[/quote]

Doubt they will be much dearer, if not cheaper with UK dealers, and if we/they have ordered quickly enough, they should be in stores in the UK sooner. Although with Epiphone don't expect too much accuracy with Delivery times. Be patient and every Tom, Dick and Harry will have them. If you buy from Germany and it arrives f***ed, or you decide you don't like it, you'll have to ship it back at your cost (initially), if you try it in a shop near you, you'll enjoy the experience a whole lot more. If it's £25 difference, it's £25 well spent.

[quote name='EssentialTension' post='585251' date='Aug 30 2009, 05:43 PM']And which makes them £100 more than a Jack Casady - by which I could also be tempted.[/quote]

One of the best basses I own, they don't sound acoustic enough though, to not make this new bass interesting, haha. I'm waiting.

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[quote name='AndyTravis' post='597810' date='Sep 13 2009, 10:41 PM']Doubt they will be much dearer, if not cheaper with UK dealers, and if we/they have ordered quickly enough, they should be in stores in the UK sooner. Although with Epiphone don't expect too much accuracy with Delivery times. Be patient and every Tom, Dick and Harry will have them. If you buy from Germany and it arrives f***ed, or you decide you don't like it, you'll have to ship it back at your cost (initially), if you try it in a shop near you, you'll enjoy the experience a whole lot more. If it's £25 difference, it's £25 well spent.[/quote]
I think I'll be looking out for a used one in about six months time. :)

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[quote name='AndyTravis' post='652365' date='Nov 12 2009, 10:29 AM']This is going to be called the 'Zenith' now,i assume Warwick kicked off because of their 'Triumph'.
These still haven't left the factory yet.
Just in case anyone is waiting for one.
Trav[/quote]
That's strange because there was an [url="http://www.provide.net/~cfh/epiphon2.html#trium"]Epiphone Triumph from 1931 to 1970[/url]:



Ok, so it was a 6-string not a bass but still Epiphone's name and I guess the reason they called this one the Triumph II.

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