GreeneKing Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 (edited) I've just had a very interesting ( read quiet day at work ) read through all 11 pages of this talkbass thread on a British innovatory pre-amp that gets barely a mention in the UK [url="http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=429951"]http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=429951[/url] The man behind this idea also chooses to bravely launch a new line of personally hand built high quality UK basses at a price of about half that of a mass produced MM Stingray and yet barely a comment is made while a pierced tongue (no offence to the piercee) gets several pages. It sometimes seems to me a bit odd Edited July 21, 2009 by GreeneKing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xilddx Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 [quote name='GreeneKing' post='546596' date='Jul 21 2009, 03:34 PM']It sometimes seems to me a bit odd [/quote] It's not odd really though, mate. A bass pre-amp has limited interest even on a bass forum, but a kid determined to get his tongue pierced, and all the social connotations and opportunities for humour that provides, is relevent to the masses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheddatom Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 It's a bit crap that the story hasn't featured on here at all. I have no idea who this guy is or what his products are. You'd think he would have made a thread on the english bass message board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thisnameistaken Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 My bass sounds alright already, so when I hear "new preamp" it just doesn't register as something I need to care about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzz Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 (edited) As for the pre-amp, there are a few threads on BC: [url="http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=25745&pid=265536&st=0&#entry265536"]http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=...mp;#entry265536[/url] is an example. I think the reason why it gets less mentioned is because a fair few people know about it on BC, they consider it as part of the bass for custom builds or as an upgrade fairly frequently, or at least they do on the threads I've been reading and it's no longer a spanking new product. It's accepted. Edit: As for the cut down basses, I do remember a thread about it being planned, I wasn't aware they'd got off the ground yet. Edited July 21, 2009 by Buzz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreeneKing Posted July 21, 2009 Author Share Posted July 21, 2009 (edited) [quote name='silddx' post='546616' date='Jul 21 2009, 03:47 PM']It's not odd really though, mate. A bass pre-amp has limited interest even on a bass forum, but a kid determined to get his tongue pierced, and all the social connotations and opportunities for humour that provides, is relevent to the masses.[/quote] And the launch of the 1st line of price accessable British built basses in many years? I hear what you say but still find it odd. The mad thing is I think that if Alan doubled his prices (he'd be justified imo) he'd probably double the interest. The pre does have a limited interest I agree but it seems to be greater in the US where the exchange rate made it a very expensive option. It's also not 'just' a pre-amp but a very different approach to manipulating your frequencies. Oh well, what is, is. Edited July 21, 2009 by GreeneKing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreeneKing Posted July 21, 2009 Author Share Posted July 21, 2009 [quote name='cheddatom' post='546620' date='Jul 21 2009, 03:49 PM']It's a bit crap that the story hasn't featured on here at all. I have no idea who this guy is or what his products are. You'd think he would have made a thread on the english bass message board.[/quote] Threads have been on BC and pretty much sunk down the pages like a stone in a pond Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xilddx Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 [quote name='GreeneKing' post='546624' date='Jul 21 2009, 03:52 PM']And the launch of the 1st line of price accessable British built basses in many years? I hear what you say but still find it odd. The mad thing is I think that if Alan doubled his prices (he'd be justified imo) he'd probably double the interest. Oh well, what is, is.[/quote] If he marketed, or could afford to market, properly, you would have heard more. But I doubt he has the manufacturing capacity to deal with loads of bass orders so he'll probably need to keep it fairly low key until he can show he has a sustainable business. All depends how big he wants to be, if he wants to do it on his own or take on backers and be a corporate "slave", etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldGit Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 [quote name='silddx' post='546616' date='Jul 21 2009, 03:47 PM']It's not odd really though, mate. A bass pre-amp has limited interest even on a bass forum, but a kid determined to get his tongue pierced, and all the social connotations and opportunities for humour that provides, is relevent to the masses.[/quote] +1 Also there are many more people on TB so there will be more who want to talk about everything. Not sure they have an off topic section either..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musky Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 (edited) I think in part it's due to the nature of the affiliates forums. Alex's forum kind of dominates the listings of recent threads on the home page at the moment, and so all the other affiliate forms spend less time highlighted on the front page. I've got to say I was well aware of the pre-amps (even though I don't really have too much interest in active electronics), but the Graft basses are a new one on me. Maybe I'll have to spend more time browsing the sub forums. Edit: I've just realised that isn't right - Barefaced Bass has it's own sub forum, so it's not dominating the Basschat Affiliates forum. Still, AGC are up against a dozen other sub forums in that section. Edited July 21, 2009 by Musky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xilddx Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 [quote name='Musky' post='546645' date='Jul 21 2009, 04:11 PM']I think in part it's due to the nature of the affiliates forums. Alex's forum kind of dominates the listings of recent threads on the home page at the moment, and so all the other affiliate forms spend less time highlighted on the front page. I've got to say I was well aware of the pre-amps (even though I don't really have too much interest in active electronics), but the Graft basses are a new one on me. Maybe I'll have to spend more time browsing the sub forums.[/quote] TBH, I've been aware of both for a while. Was looking at ACG pres ages ago, never took the plunge in the end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve-soar Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 (edited) The whole approach and ethic of ACG is different to a lot of builders but please believe me, the quality of the products is world class. Once ACG have a big name player using their basses then things will change, in the meantime, they'll have to make do with Stanley Clarke using the preamps, oh well. Edited July 21, 2009 by steve-soar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thisnameistaken Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 [quote name='Musky' post='546645' date='Jul 21 2009, 04:11 PM']the Graft basses are a new one on me.[/quote] I, like, totally can't find them. Are they on the ACG website somewhere? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xilddx Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 (edited) [quote name='thisnameistaken' post='546667' date='Jul 21 2009, 04:21 PM']I, like, totally can't find them. Are they on the ACG website somewhere?[/quote] On the home page .. [url="http://www.acguitars.co.uk/News/102/"]http://www.acguitars.co.uk/News/102/[/url] And the first one .. [url="http://www.acguitars.co.uk/Gallery/180/"]http://www.acguitars.co.uk/Gallery/180/[/url] Edited July 21, 2009 by silddx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linus27 Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 I don't even know what a pre amp does or why I would want one so thats probably why it goes under my radar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexclaber Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 [quote name='cheddatom' post='546620' date='Jul 21 2009, 03:49 PM']It's a bit crap that the story hasn't featured on here at all. I have no idea who this guy is or what his products are. You'd think he would have made a thread on the english bass message board.[/quote] Or indeed a sub-forum: [url="http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?act=SF&s=&f=47"]http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?act=SF&s=&f=47[/url] Alex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xilddx Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 [quote name='Linus27' post='546678' date='Jul 21 2009, 04:31 PM']I don't even know what a pre amp does or why I would want one so thats probably why it goes under my radar.[/quote] If you have an active bass, it will have a pre amp. On board battery powered tone shaping. same as having a Sansamp, mate, except that's on the floor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xilddx Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 [quote name='alexclaber' post='546683' date='Jul 21 2009, 04:33 PM']Or indeed a sub-forum: [url="http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?act=SF&s=&f=47"]http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?act=SF&s=&f=47[/url] Alex[/quote] Good one I wonder how many people realise they are there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thisnameistaken Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 [quote name='silddx' post='546693' date='Jul 21 2009, 04:39 PM']I wonder how many people realise they are there.[/quote] I didn't. Just looked at that black bass he's built. I think the chrome hardware puts me off a bit, but I see black hardware is available. It also looks a bit [i]too[/i] basic but that might just be the black finish, I've never bought a black bass and maybe that's why. I'll be interested to see how his other body shapes look with the pared-down features. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheddatom Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 Heh, I read the OP and did not follow the link so wasn't aware that this was about ACG. I didn't even know they did guitars, I thought it was just pre-amps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreeneKing Posted July 21, 2009 Author Share Posted July 21, 2009 [quote name='cheddatom' post='546705' date='Jul 21 2009, 04:48 PM']Heh, I read the OP and did not follow the link so wasn't aware that this was about ACG. I didn't even know they did guitars, I thought it was just pre-amps.[/quote] That brown thing in my Avatar, it's an ACG Harlot bass geetar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xilddx Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 [quote name='thisnameistaken' post='546703' date='Jul 21 2009, 04:47 PM']I didn't. Just looked at that black bass he's built. I think the chrome hardware puts me off a bit, but I see black hardware is available. It also looks a bit [i]too[/i] basic but that might just be the black finish, I've never bought a black bass and maybe that's why. I'll be interested to see how his other body shapes look with the pared-down features.[/quote] Have to admit, I didn't like it either. It's a bit ugly and pedestrian looking. But I don't like any of his shapes TBH. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldGit Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 [quote name='silddx' post='546670' date='Jul 21 2009, 04:23 PM']On the home page .. [url="http://www.acguitars.co.uk/News/102/"]http://www.acguitars.co.uk/News/102/[/url] And the first one .. [url="http://www.acguitars.co.uk/Gallery/180/"]http://www.acguitars.co.uk/Gallery/180/[/url][/quote] The man needs to sort his marketing and website out. There's loads he could be doing .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prosebass Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 oh bugger.... don't talk to the Mrs whilst editing a thread !!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldGit Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 (edited) here's a pic ... It's OK but not to my taste. Edited July 21, 2009 by OldGit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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