Al Krow Posted September 28 Posted September 28 (edited) 4 hours ago, 0175westwood29 said: Ok so couldn’t resist! Managed to get a XS-100 it’s turning up on Monday!! Hopefully able to have a bit of a play at practice!!! Nice one! And the good thing about your pedal purchases is that they're usually followed by some decent video footage! Looking forward to it - if this thing can pitch shift with tight tracking and lack of glitch-iness (I guess the best test is playing intervals with the clean sound underneath?) then its baby bro the XS-1 is getting added to my (growing, haha) "must buy soon" pedal list! Currently no video footage with bass as far as I can see - all guitar clips. So could be a world premiere for you, as an incentive! 😉 Edited September 28 by Al Krow 1 Quote
pantherairsoft Posted September 28 Posted September 28 4 hours ago, 0175westwood29 said: Ok so couldn’t resist! Managed to get a XS-100 it’s turning up on Monday!! Hopefully able to have a bit of a play at practice!!! Very keen to hear the feedback (particularly on pitch up swells). Quote
Baloney Balderdash Posted September 28 Posted September 28 (edited) 6 hours ago, 0175westwood29 said: Ok so couldn’t resist! Managed to get a XS-100 it’s turning up on Monday!! Hopefully able to have a bit of a play at practice!!! Same, but the smaller and cheaper little brother Boss XS-1. The demos I've watched sound very promising, and it should be able to do a better job then the TC Electronic Sub'N'Up Mini I use currently to emulated an octave course 8 string bass -esque effect. Am really looking forward to trying it out. I should have it by Tuesday. Edited September 28 by Baloney Balderdash 2 Quote
thisisswanbon Posted September 30 Posted September 30 While it's not here yet so technically not my latest pedal - I have an actual OC-2 due to arrive tomorrow after years of trying and testing various clones! Looking forward to removing the -2 control and seeing how the OG stacks up to my Octabvre mini! 1 Quote
jimbobothy Posted September 30 Posted September 30 … I’ve got two OC2s, but would hesitate to modify them. I know they’d be better for it sonically, but I seem to prefer originality. Let us know how easy it is to do, and a before and after sound clip would be very interesting to hear if possible please? 1 Quote
pantherairsoft Posted September 30 Posted September 30 I once had an OC2 modded by Max @ sfx, to increase the output gain. It overcame the slight signal drop you get from the OC2 when the -1 octave was solo’d. It was a great mod. It still didn’t compare to the full on output of modern alternatives though. 2 Quote
ped Posted September 30 Posted September 30 I’ve got an OC2 with the square wave mod which is great fun. Sounds brilliant in the loop of my env filter. I’ll record a clip… 3 Quote
thisisswanbon Posted October 1 Posted October 1 13 hours ago, jimbobothy said: … I’ve got two OC2s, but would hesitate to modify them. I know they’d be better for it sonically, but I seem to prefer originality. Let us know how easy it is to do, and a before and after sound clip would be very interesting to hear if possible please? I'll see what I can do for you pal... Out of interest, has anyone had any success just putting a boost after the OC2 and kicking them in at the same time? I hate tap dancing but it seems less likely to result in a broken OC2! 1 Quote
Homatron Posted October 1 Posted October 1 1 hour ago, thisisswanbon said: I hate tap dancing but it seems less likely to result in a broken OC2! Using a line selector pedal like a Boss LS2 to boost the OC2 could achieve this with the same number of stomps as just engaging the OC2. 4 Quote
thisisswanbon Posted October 1 Posted October 1 (edited) Not a bad shout at all!… just arrived obligatory photo Edited October 1 by thisisswanbon 7 Quote
thisisswanbon Posted October 1 Posted October 1 Looks like it’s going back! Absolutely nothing wrong with it, I actually prefer the tone to my octabvre. That being said, the octabvre is close enough that I’d rather just keep hold of it rather than buy two pedals doing the same job - I’ll stick it on the f/s section until richtone come back with return info Quote
pantherairsoft Posted October 3 Posted October 3 These babies showed up… Oscillator Devices Trash Pandas. Incredibly powerful expression pedal splitters. I had planned on these being able to do what my Expressionator AND Source Audio Reflex could do… and you know what, they can… BUT… silly me had not realised that to access the LFO engines you need to control them with midi, which isn’t part of my setup and I’m not going down that rabbit hole again, so I guess these need to be moved on. After paying £50 in tax and duty, plus having to pay the same on return to get a refund, returning them is not an issue. Urgh. Expect them to be for sale soon. If you use midi, or don’t care about the LFO functionality, these are badass! 2 Quote
Baloney Balderdash Posted October 3 Posted October 3 (edited) Not my specific unit, just a random Google image of it, but I got this a couple of days ago: Absolutely amazing. I use it for my always on 1 octave up effect, to emulate an effect somewhat similar to that of an octave course 8 string bass. Much clearer and more natural sounding than the TC Electronic Sub'N'Up I used previously, even if I had that running with a custom made Toneprint, I meticulously dialed in myself, with pre and post octave engine EQ filters, specifically for my application. Obviously the XS-1 octave up still sounds somewhat artificial, but it is still a substantial improvement over the Sub'N'Up, and with the octave mix at 50% or lower it does sound completely natural. Gone are all the odd digital artifacts and occational glitches as well. Edited October 3 by Baloney Balderdash 6 Quote
MrDinsdale Posted October 3 Posted October 3 Just got my hands on the Damnation Dirt Mixer. I also borrowed a reamp box which is super handy for experimenting. Back to the pedal drawing board… So far I’m leaning towards the Venus and Dagger for a good balance between clanky boost and a crispy distortion tone. The Black Math is a lot of fun though and infinitely more useable with the Dirt Mixer. 2 Quote
pantherairsoft Posted October 3 Posted October 3 2 hours ago, Baloney Balderdash said: Not my specific unit, just a random Google image of it, but I got this a couple of days ago: Absolutely amazing. I use it for my always on 1 octave up effect, to emulate an effect somewhat similar to that of an octave course 8 string bass. Much clearer and more natural sounding than the TC Electronic Sub'N'Up I used previously, even I had that running with a custom made Toneprint, I meticulously dialed in myself, with pre and post octave engine EQ filters. Obviously the XS-1 octave up still sounds somewhat artificial, but it's still a substantial improvement over the Sub'N'Up, and with the mix at 50% or lower it does sound completely natural. Gone are all the odd digital artifacts and occational glitches as well. Hearing lots of good stuff about this at the moment. Very close to pulling the trigger on the 100. 2 Quote
Baloney Balderdash Posted October 3 Posted October 3 (edited) 5 hours ago, Baloney Balderdash said: Not my specific unit, just a random Google image of it, but I got this a couple of days ago: Absolutely amazing. I use it for my always on 1 octave up effect, to emulate an effect somewhat similar to that of an octave course 8 string bass. Much clearer and more natural sounding than the TC Electronic Sub'N'Up I used previously, even if I had that running with a custom made Toneprint, I meticulously dialed in myself, with pre and post octave engine EQ filters, specifically for my application. Obviously the XS-1 octave up still sounds somewhat artificial, but it is still a substantial improvement over the Sub'N'Up, and with the octave mix at 50% or lower it does sound completely natural. Gone are all the odd digital artifacts and occational glitches as well. Here's a sample of the Boss XS-1 used for obtaining an effect somewhat similar to that of an 8 string octave course bass, using my 28.6" scale Ibanez GSRM25 Mikto Bass, tuned to E standard tuning (E to C). Just random noodling through my "amp-less" setup, directly into my Zoom H4n handheld recorder, with nothing additionally done post recording, other than clipping/cutting some parts out: Edited October 3 by Baloney Balderdash 2 Quote
Al Krow Posted October 3 Posted October 3 1 hour ago, Baloney Balderdash said: Here's a sample of the Boss XS-1 used for obtaining an effect somewhat similar to that of an 8 string octave course bass, using my 28.6" scale Ibanez GSRM25 Mikto Bass, tuned to E standard tuning (E to C). Just random noodling through my "amp-less" setup, directly into my Zoom H4n handheld recorder, with nothing additionally done post recording, other than clipping/cutting some parts out: Thanks for sharing that! Would you say it performs better at 8 string emulation with high rather than low notes? Quote
Baloney Balderdash Posted October 3 Posted October 3 (edited) 30 minutes ago, Al Krow said: Thanks for sharing that! Would you say it performs better at 8 string emulation with high rather than low notes? Yes, absolutely. For that simple reason that the octave strings on an 8 string bass will have lower output than the bass strings. This way the artificial notes can be lower in the mix and sort of hide behind the real once, rather than having the artificial notes be the dominant ones. That said I am not really looking to emulate an 8 string bass, I just happen to like the tone I get from adding an octave. Edited October 3 by Baloney Balderdash 3 Quote
Baloney Balderdash Posted yesterday at 13:11 Posted yesterday at 13:11 (edited) On 03/10/2025 at 18:43, Al Krow said: Thanks for sharing that! Would you say it performs better at 8 string emulation with high rather than low notes? Also I now connected a foot switch, to be able to switch to the 1 octave down instead, but with the same amount of blend. This gives me with the 1 octave up on my 5 string, tuned in E standard tuning, a quite natural sounding 8 (10) string, octave course, bass emulation. And with the 1 octave down, on the upper 3 strings, it gives me the lower 3 strings of a guitar in D standard tuning, but played on bass, plus a less pronounced fake 3 lower strings of a bass in D standard tuning, playing in unison with the guitar, one octave lower, but sounding a bit fake, though actually great sounding and absolutely useful effect still. The A strings is actually useful too, though the processed octave would be a whole step lower than the B of a 5 or 6 string bass in regular B standard tuning. But yes, as I already replied, 1 octave up is definitely the way to go for an approximately natural sounding 8 string, octave course, bass emulation. Edited yesterday at 13:18 by Baloney Balderdash Quote
Baloney Balderdash Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago (edited) On 03/10/2025 at 18:43, Al Krow said: Thanks for sharing that! Would you say it performs better at 8 string emulation with high rather than low notes? You can judge for yourself here: Sound test of the new Boss XS-1 pitchshifter, testing octave down and octave up respectively blended with dry signal, on my 28.5" scale tenor bass (reverse orientation middle/bridge P pickup), tuned in A standard tuning, seeking to emulate a somewhat 8 string octave course bass -esque effect. Octave Down: 0:00 - 2:30 Octave Up: 2:30 - 4:21 And for comparison, here played on my 5 string 28.6" tenor bass (bridge J pickup), tuned in E standard tuning, though I avoided playing the low E too much, as it is already pretty floppy sounding on the short scale as is, and E0 is insane, however I did hit it a few times, just for the sake of the demo: Octave Down: 0:00 - 6:10 Octave Up: 6:10 - 9:44 Edited 3 hours ago by Baloney Balderdash 1 Quote
Al Krow Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 16 minutes ago, Baloney Balderdash said: You can judge for yourself here: Sound test of the new Boss XS-1 pitchshifter, testing octave down and octave up respectively blended with dry signal, on my 28.5" scale tenor bass, tuned in A standard tuning, seeking to emulate a somewhat 8 string octave course bass -esque effect. Octave Down: 0:00 - 2:30 Octave Up: 2:30 - 4:21 Significant improvement over your Sub'n'up? 1 Quote
Baloney Balderdash Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago (edited) 1 hour ago, Al Krow said: Significant improvement over your Sub'n'up? Absolutely, huge improvement, much clearer and natural sounding 1 octave up effect (the 1 octave down for that sake too, which for me is straight out unusable on the Sub'N'Up), and without any kind of glitches or odd digital artifacts. Also try listening to the other test I just added to my previous post. I focused on the 1 octave down in the above demos for the sake of comparison, but what I predominantly actually use myself is the 1 octave up effect, which I think, blended in with dry signal, and the dry signal being dominant, pretty much sounds perfectly natural. Edited 3 hours ago by Baloney Balderdash 4 Quote
Sté Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago My very last pedal: Keeley bassist. It became the only pedal i put between bass and amp; so it's really my last pedal. After a life switching from pedalboard with pedals to multieffect unit to new pedalboard with other pedals to new multieffect unit to ..etc etc ; i've reached the end of this road with this pedal. It's just adding some extra-clarity to my tone, something magic. And i don't need anything else. I've build this mini-pedalboard to protect her from our crazy guitarist which jump all over the place without paying attention to anything. . But i don't use it anymore, as i finally put the pedal on the top of my amp as it's always ON. 3 Quote
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