thought id get your opions on a Shuker Jazz bass.

[Jobiebass]

Ive just looked at [url="http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=39571&st=0"]Eudes Jazz[/url] bass and its give me some serious gas.

updated spec,

4 String Jazz
22 fret
Ash jazz body, same squared edged body as this below also with the blue quilted top
Birdeye maple neck 41.3mm (P bass size neck)
with inlays like this blue one but in blue pearl, blue quited headstock (fenderish style).
Delano MM/Jazz hybrid pickups.
Badass Bridge (may choose a diffrent one if anyone can think of anything better for sustain?)

Still need to figure out:
which electronics will suit me best
Nobs + arrangement
tuners (chrome hipshot ultra lite clover?)
nut type


so roughly like this,





if anyone could give me some advice on things it would be greatly appreciated

Edited May 15, 2009 by Jobiebass

[far0n]

You'd probably be looking at a MM/Jazz combination for pickups, with coil switching on the MM so you could flick it to single coil.... exactly the way my Lakland works. I've always fancied having two switching humbuckers and you could choose what the hell you wanted then !

[dlloyd]

How about one of these...

Edited May 8, 2009 by dlloyd

[Jobiebass]

[quote name='dlloyd' post='483211' date='May 8 2009, 06:37 PM']How about one of these...

[/quote]



OOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooo...

would that work so when I wanted jazz pups (normally dialed full vol neck 1/2 to 3/4 bridge pup) that would work in the same way as a bridge J pup? I play over the MM pup normally anyways but love jumping to the neck pup for a smoother tone.

[simon1964]

[quote name='Jobiebass' post='483219' date='May 8 2009, 06:49 PM']OOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooo...

would that work so when I wanted jazz pups (normally dialed full vol neck 1/2 to 3/4 bridge pup) that would work in the same way as a bridge J pup? I play over the MM pup normally anyways but love jumping to the neck pup for a smoother tone.[/quote]

Those Delano's are fantastic. I've got them fitted to my Shuker here:

[url="http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=39830&hl=shuker+porn"]http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=...;hl=shuker+porn[/url]

In active mode, the bridge pickup gives a very good Stingray tone (I prefer it to my real 'ray!). In passive mode, it reverts to single coil, giving a great passive Jazz sound. Jon fitted them to mine with a Delano hybrid EQ, and I can't speak highly enough of the tone. You really can get proper Stingray and Jazz tones from them

Edited May 8, 2009 by simon1964

[simon1964]

[quote name='far0n' post='483208' date='May 8 2009, 06:31 PM']I've always fancied having two switching humbuckers and you could choose what the hell you wanted then ![/quote]

That would be a Corvette $$ !

Wish I still had mine!

Edited May 8, 2009 by simon1964

[Jobiebass]

[quote name='simon1964' post='483276' date='May 8 2009, 08:18 PM']That would be a Corvette $$ !

Wish I still had mine![/quote]


I remember playing yours, thats the first time ive enjoyed a warwick!, altho the neck profile on warwicks are horrible imho.

[7string]

I played Eude's Shuker jazz at the Bassbash in Moffat.

It's a great bass and the 33" scale makes it criminally easy to get around on. Sounds good as well.

I wouldn't dismiss the 33" scale right away, if Eudes bass is anything to go by the scale length doesn't effect the sound. Before anyone jumps on this point, I know scale length does make a difference, but on that particular J style bass the 33" scale felt good and sounded good as well.

[Jobiebass]

[quote name='7string' post='483294' date='May 8 2009, 08:47 PM']I played Eude's Shuker jazz at the Bassbash in Moffat.

It's a great bass and the 33" scale makes it criminally easy to get around on. Sounds good as well.

I wouldn't dismiss the 33" scale right away, if Eudes bass is anything to go by the scale length doesn't effect the sound. Before anyone jumps on this point, I know scale length does make a difference, but on that particular J style bass the 33" scale felt good and sounded good as well.[/quote]

Does scale change the tone?, and (sorry for the noob comment) but what does 33 mean? what a noramal jazz scale?
id be willing to drive to Eudes for a play tbh, if im shelling out for a dream bass id want it to be a dream, plus while im up there there is an Amazing skatepark near newcastle id like to ride or I could stay with danny calow from death skateboards in Darlington for a bit of a sesh.

[far0n]

Seriously, I'd wouldn't consider buying anything until you think about what you like and dislike in a bass. It's a hell of a lot of money to part with, if you're left with an instrument that doesn't suit you or is poorly thought out you'll be kicking yourself. Do some research. Find out what sounds like what, not just in your practice room but when your out gigging too. I've had some fab 'bedroom' basses that were appalling when played live. I've been playing since I was 19 and it's only now at 36 I've started considering getting a custom bass, just purely because I know what neck shape I like, what pickups I like, what types of wood I like. It's a very long slow learning curve, honestly.

[Jobiebass]

[quote name='far0n' post='483316' date='May 8 2009, 09:19 PM']Seriously, I'd wouldn't consider buying anything until you think about what you like and dislike in a bass. It's a hell of a lot of money to part with, if you're left with an instrument that doesn't suit you or is poorly thought out you'll be kicking yourself. Do some research. Find out what sounds like what, not just in your practice room but when your out gigging too. I've had some fab 'bedroom' basses that were appalling when played live. I've been playing since I was 19 and it's only now at 36 I've started considering getting a custom bass, just purely because I know what neck shape I like, what pickups I like, what types of wood I like. It's a very long slow learning curve, honestly.[/quote]

In all honesty, im a sh*t bassist, I know sod all about tone and what things sound like live. TBH ive never played live apart from a little 10-15min playing about on stage in an intival of someone elses gig. ive got 2 bands on the go but both need a singer. I know what I like to look at, and I know what it'd roughly like it to sounds like. But Im only 25 and I earn a shitload so why not endulge while I can?? I work all over the country and take my basses with me to sit in my hotel rooms (which I have to pay for unfortunatly)

I know how id like it to look, ive done some research cause altho my job is hard ( Financial Contractor) I have a lot of spare time to look about, and I know I love MM 'rays, and I love the feel of the Modulus (not a fan of the tone) but I want something a little special.

Ive had a lot of time to play a LOT of basses and I know I dislike lakland. Modulus is amazing, Wals are ok, fender is ok, MM is perfect, warwicks are HORRIBLE.

Edited May 8, 2009 by Jobiebass

[Jobiebass]

Made a mock up of how it'd roughly look like, my MS paint skills are less then desirable.
thats a badass bridge and I tried to make the pickups look like the Delano's

If anyone is good with paint, I wouldnt mind seeing what it looks like in red, or maybe silver?

Edited May 9, 2009 by Jobiebass

[Spoombung]

[quote name='Jobiebass' post='483558' date='May 9 2009, 08:54 AM']Made a mock up of how it'd roughly look like, my MS paint skills are less then desirable.
thats a badass bridge and I tried to make the pickups look like the Delano's

If anyone is good with paint, I wouldnt mind seeing what it looks like in red, or maybe silver?

[/quote]

That looks good. I wouldn't order yet, though, and I'd take FarOn's advice and do a bit more research first into your likes and dislikes. Plus there are numerous Fenders in shops. Do you really want a posh custom one?

[Jobiebass]

[quote name='Spoombung' post='483597' date='May 9 2009, 10:18 AM']That looks good. I wouldn't order yet, though, and I'd take FarOn's advice and do a bit more research first into your likes and dislikes. Plus there are numerous Fenders in shops. Do you really want a posh custom one?[/quote]

I dont like Fenders so yes!

Ive played a fair few basses over the years, owned a few med/high end basses too so i know roughly what im after. plus i guess it helps i but a fretless bass together to my spec too.

[Jamesemt]

[quote name='Jobiebass' post='483633' date='May 9 2009, 11:43 AM']I dont like Fenders so yes!

Ive played a fair few basses over the years, owned a few med/high end basses too so i know roughly what im after. plus i guess it helps i but a fretless bass together to my spec too.[/quote]

I say go for it mate, I'm in exactly the same position and am meeting Jon on Monday.

It's all a learnning a curve and if the bass turns out to be different sounding, well then it's a good excuse to get another!

I'm having one built as I need something lightweight. Sorry I can't help more than that - Jon can copy neck shapes which is what i'm having done

[yorks5stringer]

If I did my build again I'd go for the blue inlays and matching headstock: like someone said earlier, sometimes it's not till you've built/had built your bass do you realise you wish you'd done that.....
It was at the last Manchester Bass show that I saw Overwaters with coloured pearloid inlays.......

[Spoombung]

[quote name='Jobiebass' post='483633' date='May 9 2009, 11:43 AM']I dont like Fenders so yes![/quote]

Well...that is a Fender... for all intents and purposes, isn't it? It's the same shape and basic design. It's only my opinion, but custom builds are especially useful for designs you can't buy in the shops and special requirements, ie, non-standard body shapes, non-standard necks and so on. What you have there appears to be something you could obtain instantly (not a year and a half later) from a shop like GAK at more or less a half/third of the price of a custom build.

I'm not saying don't do it - of course, go ahead with it if you want. It's a free country afterall!

[Jobiebass]

[quote name='Spoombung' post='483895' date='May 9 2009, 06:19 PM']Well...that is a Fender... for all intents and purposes, isn't it? It's the same shape and basic design.[/quote]

well in essence yeah, I like Jazz basses, the body etc, neck is a little too slim for me so im going for more of a 'ray neck. But Fenders dont tick any other boxes for me, I think the bridges are lame and they dont excite me when I pick them up, a lot of the ones in shops ive played are terrible, you get the odd sweet one but playing all the others just brings down the Fender name IMHO.

In essence if I had a Fender Jazz body, 'ray pickups and electronics, 'ray neck, badass bridge. id be more then happy. but as I cant have that, custom it is. PLus I like pretty things and spending money.

[Finbar]

Be cheaper to buy a Jazz body, and stick the ray parts and the badass on?

[Jobiebass]

[quote name='Finbar' post='484407' date='May 10 2009, 05:29 PM']Be cheaper to buy a Jazz body, and stick the ray parts and the badass on?[/quote]

Probably would be cheeper, but just wouldnt really be the same.
im pretty set on getting one made now, its just trying to figure out the small details of it.

[Spoombung]

...or buy a Stingray, even?

It seems to me you can get exactly what you want by making a few changes to the hardware of a standard Fender or Musicman (as Finbar suggests) or you could order the Shuker, pay three times as much and sit back and wait for a year and a half twiddling your fingers. I'd give it another think if I were you...

[Jobiebass]

[quote name='Spoombung' post='484449' date='May 10 2009, 06:20 PM']...or buy a Stingray, even?[/quote]

Ive got one, well ive got one for sale actually.

[Jobiebass]

[quote name='simon1964' post='483275' date='May 8 2009, 08:15 PM']Those Delano's are fantastic. I've got them fitted to my Shuker here:

[url="http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=39830&hl=shuker+porn"]http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=...;hl=shuker+porn[/url]

In active mode, the bridge pickup gives a very good Stingray tone (I prefer it to my real 'ray!). In passive mode, it reverts to single coil, giving a great passive Jazz sound. Jon fitted them to mine with a Delano hybrid EQ, and I can't speak highly enough of the tone. You really can get proper Stingray and Jazz tones from them[/quote]

id kick myself if I didnt ask this, what if I wanted an active jazz tone?

[eude]

[quote name='Jobiebass' post='484532' date='May 10 2009, 07:55 PM']id kick myself if I didnt ask this, what if I wanted an active jazz tone?[/quote]

Hey bud,
I'm pretty sure you can just set the pickup with a separate switch to choose the coils, rather than linking it into an active passive switch.
You could then add that to a 3 band EQ, and active/passive switch and a passive tone control, but you'd end up with a hell of a lot of controls, might be pricey all in too...

Cheers,
Eude

[Spoombung]

Have you looked at Sanberg basses?