Andyalfa Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 Bit up and down at the moment to be honest. Once again the band is causing me grief. We spent a pretty intense 20 or so hours in the studio last weekend, recording and mixing a new CD of covers for prospective venues and clients. I was delighted with the results and wanted to get the music on our MySpace page ASAP. I’m also keen to get the disk to a duplication service for mastering and copying so I can start passing it round. However, it seems that Mr Picky the lead guitarist wants to redo lots of fiddly little bits he’s not happy with (yet no-one else can hear) and told me to take them off. Now I’m not the most patient man and the thought of spending months tweaking every little backing twang will drive me mad. Things need to be kept in perspective. It’s not the new U2 album, it’s a 4 track demo. I say change the obvious bits, get the artwork sorted, get the copies done and get the fc*ker out there to tout for work! <and breathe> I feel better now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowdown Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 Just curious... Are you allowed to put covers up on My Space..? Guitards...dont you just love um..! If he wants to be that anal... Why dont he do it all on his own in Cubase or whatever... The sound of quantised midi Drums and Bass... Stunning Musical[b] performance [/b][u][/u]of the highest quality. Garry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyalfa Posted March 18, 2009 Author Share Posted March 18, 2009 [quote name='lowdown' post='438258' date='Mar 18 2009, 01:50 PM']Just curious... Are you allowed to put covers up on My Space..?[/quote] Probably not, but we had 4 tracks from our last demo (old band line-up) on for a couple of years without a problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eight Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 What do the rest of the band think? I say just put them up, leave them up and say when he's done noodling around you'll replace them with the new versions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnylager Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 It's simple to me. Will redoing the guitar parts generate more work / money than not redoing them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyalfa Posted March 18, 2009 Author Share Posted March 18, 2009 As far as myself (and a couple of other people who've heard it) are concerned, it sounds fine. It does need mastering to get the levels right, but I doubt yer average pub landlord/happy couple would be able to tell, especially hearing the standalone disc rather than a back to back comparison. The way I feel is that I'm happy to put my name to it and if he wants to pay for extra studio time for his own personal satisfaction and listening pleasure, then so be it. I'd rather use the extra cash to get decent cases for imporived presentation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
51m0n Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 Tell him you're putting what you have up, if he wants to spend more of his own time and money redoing parts he's welcome to, next time he should get his stuff down before going into the studio though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnylager Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 [quote name='51m0n' post='438314' date='Mar 18 2009, 02:52 PM']Tell him you're putting what you have up, if he wants to spend more of his own time and money redoing parts he's welcome to, next time he should get his stuff down before going into the studio though.[/quote] Yup. Band vote? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eight Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 If its shared money then it isn't right you all have to fork out because he wants to have another crack at something, when its perfectly fine as it is. Obviously sometimes you probably need to humour individual band members to keep harmony (yuk yuk yuk) but other times you need to be pushing forward. Spend the money on getting it mastered maybe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musky Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 (edited) [quote name='51m0n' post='438314' date='Mar 18 2009, 02:52 PM']Tell him you're putting what you have up, if he wants to spend more of his own time and money redoing parts he's welcome to, next time he should get his stuff down before going into the studio though.[/quote] +1. It sounds like he's being impossibly anal about the whole thing. He probably won't be happy after redoing the parts either... Edit: Tell him to go and take a listen to Led Zep II. He'll lose count of the amount of fluffed notes on the guitar parts. Edited March 18, 2009 by Musky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
51m0n Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 [quote name='Musky' post='438324' date='Mar 18 2009, 03:03 PM']+1. It sounds like he's being impossibly anal about the whole thing. He probably won't be happy after redoing the parts either... [/quote] An impossibly anal guitarist? Well I've met enough who are ****holes Sorry, apologies to all those offended, I'll get my coat! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave_bass5 Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 Tell him he should have practised a bit more and got it right on the day :-) I can understand as we all want our performance's to sound good but I would make him pay for it if he is the only one going back in, its his mistakes after all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stylon Pilson Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 Yeah, what everyone else said. It sounds like he's just doing this to protect his ego, in which case, if he wants it so badly, he should pay for it. S.P. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyalfa Posted March 18, 2009 Author Share Posted March 18, 2009 [quote name='51m0n' post='438329' date='Mar 18 2009, 03:06 PM']An impossibly anal guitarist? Well I've met enough who are ****holes Sorry, apologies to all those offended, I'll get my coat![/quote] No need to apologise, I was just going to ask if you knew him? Seriously though, he is very good, just a perfectionist. What he plays sounds great to me, but if he's not absolutely note perfect or he's slightly low in the mix, then he'll spend hours (and £'s) getting it just right. Fine if it was a general release we're selling, but not a 4 track demo. I think it sounds fantastic anyhow. Way better than the first one we did a while back. Even he said (on Sunday as we were leaving), "if they don't book us after hearing this, they don't deserve us". Sounds pretentious, but I have to say, I agree. I'll put a link on here to some clips if/when they get uploaded again... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Funk Posted March 19, 2009 Share Posted March 19, 2009 [quote name='51m0n' post='438314' date='Mar 18 2009, 02:52 PM']Tell him you're putting what you have up, if he wants to spend more of his own time and money redoing parts he's welcome to, next time he should get his stuff down before going into the studio though.[/quote] EXACTLY! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdwardHimself Posted March 19, 2009 Share Posted March 19, 2009 Hey you should post some clips, if i can't tell the difference then i seriously doubt anyone else would be able to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyalfa Posted March 20, 2009 Author Share Posted March 20, 2009 I'll see what I can do over the weekend. Trouble is, I only have a pre-guitarfiddled version at the moment. It could be a couple of years before the finished product is available... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmer61 Posted March 20, 2009 Share Posted March 20, 2009 [quote name='51m0n' post='438314' date='Mar 18 2009, 02:52 PM']Tell him you're putting what you have up, if he wants to spend more of his own time and money redoing parts he's welcome to, next time he should get his stuff down before going into the studio though.[/quote] +1 Means you're not waiting too much time to get Mr Perfect's parts.....well perfect, and you can start booking gigs! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRedX Posted March 20, 2009 Share Posted March 20, 2009 (edited) If he's true to his standards he also won't accept any money you might make from gigs got with the original demo... Edited March 20, 2009 by BigRedX Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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