Annoying Twit Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 (edited) The listing says it might be a hand-made bass. (They seem to say that a lot). There's something about the headstock and the lamination of the neck through that looks familiar. EDIT: Neck through and body slightly grind-ish????? I'm not seriously interested in this, just curious. [url="https://www.gumtree.com/p/guitar-instrument/fretless-bass-guitar-neck-through-/1136015568"]https://www.gumtree....ugh-/1136015568[/url] Edited October 3, 2015 by Annoying Twit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spectoremg Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 It looks Peavey, particularly the headstock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roman_sub Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 yup agree that this is Peavey-esque! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tauzero Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 Peavey, not the Grind before the current one as that has a sort of very large pop groove that extends over the lower forward bout. Not a Zephyr as that's got sandwich wings. I'm not sure if it would be the very first Grind, don't have details of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassassin Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 I'd say Peavey C4 Zephyr, de-fretted, soapbars binned & replaced with Js in weird-looing surrounds which cover the holes. A refin or maybe T-cut/elbow grease to make it shiny. Jon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annoying Twit Posted October 4, 2015 Author Share Posted October 4, 2015 I googled the C4 Zephyr and the photos that I saw were bolt-ons. I've got a vague feeling that there was a non-Grind Peavey model that had that red shiny finish, but some search has not revealed what it might be (assuming it does exist). We need Kodiakblair in this thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tauzero Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 Not a Zephyr, like I said, that has sandwich wings with a contrasting wood colour in the middle that shows up in the forearm cutaway. The wings on this are solid wood. It's an early Grind with modded pickups and bridge. There's pictures of Grinds here and I think the earliest one would be the one shown at the top of page 2 in some rather blurry images: [url="http://en.audiofanzine.com/electric-fretted-bass/peavey/Grind-Bass-4c-NTB/medias/pictures/"]http://en.audiofanzine.com/electric-fretted-bass/peavey/Grind-Bass-4c-NTB/medias/pictures/[/url] It's probably been stained and varnished too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassassin Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 [quote name='tauzero' timestamp='1443953458' post='2878869'] Not a Zephyr, like I said, that has sandwich wings with a contrasting wood colour in the middle that shows up in the forearm cutaway. The wings on this are solid wood. [/quote] I have a C5 with the sandwich construction, but it looks like they didn't all have that: [url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Peavey-Zephyr-Bass-Rare-/261947226019"]http://www.ebay.co.u...e-/261947226019[/url] Clearly the one we're discussing has had some sort of refin, but I'm confident it was born looking like this one. J. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tauzero Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 Looking again at the body shape, I think I'll exercise my prerogative to change my mind and agree that it is a Zephyr. Sadly there's no authoritative resource for the history of Peavey models. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kodiakblair Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 That's a bit of a strange one. Definitely reminds me of a Zephyr, I'm sure @Mojo on here has a through neck one. The Schaller 3D bridge throws me as I don't think they were standard on Zephyrs but I'm inclined to a Zephyr. Just purely guess work on my part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassassin Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 Never noticed the Schaller bridge. Odd thing to change, the original hi-mass thing on the Zephyr was perfectly seviceable. Those pickups surrounds are ghastly. Look like they're made from plasticene. J. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annoying Twit Posted October 4, 2015 Author Share Posted October 4, 2015 While we're discussing Peaveys, I reckon this one could go for a bargain price. Grinds often don't sell for huge amounts, it has a low starting bid, and it's pickup only in a small Derbyshire town. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Peavey-Grind-Bass-Guitar-4-String-Natural-/151838409085?hash=item235a46417d Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kodiakblair Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 That ones a Zephyr AT . Grind fret markers are along one side. Very cheap starting bid,I considered it myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassassin Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 That looks exactly like the ScumTree one, pre-mods. Does to me, anyway! J. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tauzero Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 Yes, a Zephyr - pretty symmetrical rather than the leaning-forward Grind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annoying Twit Posted October 7, 2015 Author Share Posted October 7, 2015 Oops! If I was to buy a grind, I'd have to research further to be aware of mis-labelled zephyrs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kodiakblair Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 [quote name='Annoying Twit' timestamp='1444195902' post='2880973'] Oops! If I was to buy a grind, I'd have to research further to be aware of mis-labelled zephyrs. [/quote] Just to confused things there's also a bolt on PJ active Grind with dot markers in the normal place [attachment=202286:peavey_bxp.jpg] Available in American and BXP flavours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alyctes Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 Also there is a no-name knockoff which looks almost exactly like an unbadged Cirrus out there... there have been a couple on eBay over the last year or so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kodiakblair Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 The Vietnamese factory that built the Grinds years back are still producing them too,easy to spot they've no logo and the metal plate back of headstock. OT. I mind those type of plates in the 80s but I'm damned if I can remember the name,mostly for Fenders back then. Anybody mind them ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tauzero Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 [quote name='Annoying Twit' timestamp='1444195902' post='2880973'] Oops! If I was to buy a grind, I'd have to research further to be aware of mis-labelled zephyrs. [/quote] I'd go with either TBH. The neck on the Zephyr is a little fatter - just enough that I sold mine rather than hang on to it. It did get used in one studio session - I was recording in the control room which was packed with electronics, and my Antoniotsai was picking up interference, so I used the Zephyr. While they're both made to a good standard, there's something about the sandwich-wing Zephyr [1] which makes it seem to ooze quality. [1] Other Zephyrs are available. Avoid the Ford Zephyr, it'll be rather long in the tooth and all rused out now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annoying Twit Posted October 8, 2015 Author Share Posted October 8, 2015 Just curious about the post-Peavey grinds made by the Vietnamese factory. Are there any photos of them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassassin Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 [quote name='tauzero' timestamp='1444290497' post='2881836'] [1] Other Zephyrs are available. Avoid the Ford Zephyr, it'll be rather long in the tooth and all rused out now. [/quote] Agreed. Same goes for the Kawasaki Zephyr - try finding one without holes rusted in the tank. Plus it may look like a Z1, but it's really not. I seem to remember Ebay being chock-full of no-brand Zephyr-alikes (that's Peavey, not Ford or Kawasaki) a few years ago, some with more pearl & abalone inlays than sense. J. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annoying Twit Posted October 8, 2015 Author Share Posted October 8, 2015 Could the bass in the OP be a Zephyr-alike? Not originally a Peavey? What did the headstock on the Peavey-a-likes look like? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kodiakblair Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 AT I'll keep looking for a photo. It was the exact same as my BXP Grind with the scooped lower horn,just with a plate screwed to the back. Same plate went on some Milestones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassassin Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 [quote name='Annoying Twit' timestamp='1444307797' post='2882089'] Could the bass in the OP be a Zephyr-alike? Not originally a Peavey? What did the headstock on the Peavey-a-likes look like? [/quote] Pretty sure they were exactly like the Peaveys. So yes, it could easily have been an off-brand. I'm convinced they were being sold under a brand name - something along the lines of "Bass Maniac" but not that, obviously. Will continue to rack my walnut of a brain. J. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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