squire5 Posted November 16, 2013 Share Posted November 16, 2013 Anybody watch this last night (BBC4)? I dont know how to put it but I think Pauls age is starting to affect his voice,but only in the lower register.While he still can scream like he used to,his lower register is decidedly below par IMHO.His bass work is still amazing although I noticed that he 'watched' his fingering hand an awful lot.Dont know if this is a subconscious thing,or if he's just being careful.He also didn't seem to have much rapport with his other 2 guitarists,nor they with him,if I'm honest,although Abe Laboriel got most of his attention. Still, he's still my main man and played a blinder (Mr Kite,amazing bassline). Interesting too that immediately after this programme was a doc. on his 'Wings over America' tour,The sound and musicianship of which I actually preferred. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogerstodge Posted November 16, 2013 Share Posted November 16, 2013 Yup.. Mr Kite, fantastic, also see the wings documentary, whatever happened to Denny Laine? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyfisher Posted November 16, 2013 Share Posted November 16, 2013 Just watching it now on iPlayer. Who do you have to sell your granny to to get tickets for this sort of show? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BetaFunk Posted November 16, 2013 Share Posted November 16, 2013 [quote name='flyfisher' timestamp='1384622710' post='2278886'] Who do you have to sell your granny to to get tickets for this sort of show? [/quote] If i'd have had tickets you could have happily had them. I wouldn't have walked to the pub across the road from me to see that. Awful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyfisher Posted November 16, 2013 Share Posted November 16, 2013 Really? You wouldn't spend an hour of your time in a small venue to see a musical legend? Yeah, go on then - voice gone, past his prime, Beatles were rubbish, blah blah. However, I wasn't so much thinking about a Macca gig. By "this sort of show" I actually meant this sort of small venue for an artist of this sort of international standing - could be any of a hundred or more people really, it was more the type of venue I was referring to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EssentialTension Posted November 16, 2013 Share Posted November 16, 2013 [quote name='BetaFunk' timestamp='1384625073' post='2278916'] ... Awful. [/quote] So you did watch it then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BetaFunk Posted November 16, 2013 Share Posted November 16, 2013 [quote name='EssentialTension' timestamp='1384626079' post='2278934'] So you did watch it then? [/quote] Yes. From a bass point of view he's always going to be worth watching but oh those vocals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyfisher Posted November 16, 2013 Share Posted November 16, 2013 So worth watching on your side of the road then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EssentialTension Posted November 16, 2013 Share Posted November 16, 2013 McCartney's voice is certainly not what it was. But is it 'awful'? I think not. Two guys from one of my bands were in the audience and I wish I had been too. They won the tickets in a competition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BetaFunk Posted November 16, 2013 Share Posted November 16, 2013 [quote name='flyfisher' timestamp='1384629539' post='2278976'] So worth watching on your side of the road then? [/quote] I meant worth watching on TV. I still wouldn't cross the road to see him. Well not unless i had a bit of cotton wool in both ears. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BetaFunk Posted November 16, 2013 Share Posted November 16, 2013 [quote name='EssentialTension' timestamp='1384630020' post='2278983'] McCartney's voice is certainly not what it was. But is it 'awful'? I think not. Two guys from one of my bands were in the audience and I wish I had been too. They won the tickets in a competition. [/quote] I really did think it was awful. It happens to the best though. Sinatra had to choose his material very carefully in his latter years but was fortunate in having more material to draw from compared with Macca. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
largo Posted November 16, 2013 Share Posted November 16, 2013 I love Basschat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EssentialTension Posted November 16, 2013 Share Posted November 16, 2013 [quote name='BetaFunk' timestamp='1384630535' post='2278992'] I really did think it was awful. It happens to the best though. Sinatra had to choose his material very carefully in his latter years but was fortunate in having more material to draw from compared with Macca. [/quote] It does commonly happen. It happened to me. I couldn't sing and now I have got worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BetaFunk Posted November 16, 2013 Share Posted November 16, 2013 [quote name='EssentialTension' timestamp='1384630974' post='2279000'] It does commonly happen. It happened to me. I couldn't sing and now I have got worse. [/quote] Me too. The neighbours used to ask me to turn my bass amp down but now they ask me to turn it up to drown out my singing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulWarning Posted November 16, 2013 Share Posted November 16, 2013 yeah his voice has gone, interesting that he did Mr Kyte, a Lennon song, talking of Lennon wonder what his voice is like in some parallel universe where Macca was the one that got shot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Fretbuzz Posted November 16, 2013 Share Posted November 16, 2013 The Epi Jack Casady sounded good to me though :-) Looked good too :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyfisher Posted November 16, 2013 Share Posted November 16, 2013 [quote name='BetaFunk' timestamp='1384630535' post='2278992'] Sinatra had to choose his material very carefully in his latter years but was fortunate in having more material to draw from compared with Macca. [/quote] Poor old Macca, fancy being limited to his own original and unparalleled body of globally renowned songs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BetaFunk Posted November 16, 2013 Share Posted November 16, 2013 [quote name='flyfisher' timestamp='1384636149' post='2279089'] Poor old Macca, fancy being limited to his own original and unparalleled body of globally renowned songs. [/quote] I think you missed my point. Sinatra had hundreds of songs in his repertoire and as he got older he could pick and choose the ones that suited his voice. Unfortunately Macca is stuck with the songs he wrote of which many sadly don't suit his voice any more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sblueplanet Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 Sting has done the right in recent years and changed the keys he sings in to suit his newer, bassier range. Either that or he tunes down a semitone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyfisher Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 [quote name='BetaFunk' timestamp='1384638116' post='2279118'] I think you missed my point. Sinatra had hundreds of songs in his repertoire and as he got older he could pick and choose the ones that suited his voice. Unfortunately Macca is stuck with the songs he wrote of which many sadly don't suit his voice any more. [/quote] I got the point, and it's a fair one, but it just highlights the difference in creative output between Sinatra (very little) and Macca (little short of astonishing). But Sinatra was just a crooner, so it's not really a fair comparison. As an aside, all the 'Beatle haters' out there might be interested in this: http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b03h6yrv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BetaFunk Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 (edited) [quote name='flyfisher' timestamp='1384713924' post='2279853'] But Sinatra was just a crooner [/quote] I presume that's a joke as it did make me laugh. Edited November 17, 2013 by BetaFunk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EssentialTension Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 [quote name='BetaFunk' timestamp='1384714057' post='2279859'] I presume that's a joke as it did make me laugh. [/quote] I'm with you on that one. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W146Z_-O0J0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyfisher Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 No joke. It's not a derogatory term is it? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crooner http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_crooners Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BetaFunk Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 (edited) [quote name='flyfisher' timestamp='1384719624' post='2279992'] No joke. It's not a derogatory term is it? [/quote] Not derogatory at all but then again i think of Macca as just being a songwriter of a few decent tunes. Edited November 17, 2013 by BetaFunk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyfisher Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 Yeah, a few. [i][color=#000000]Guinness World Records d[/color]escribed McCartney as the "most successful composer and recording artist of all time", with 60 gold discs and sales of over 100 million albums and 100 million singles, and as the "most successful songwriter" in United Kingdom chart history[/i]. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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