paul torch Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 (edited) I'm thinking of putting a rig together. Obviously I'm going to check this out soundwise before I commit but I was wondering if anyone would foresee any issues. I thinking of getting an Ampeg PF350 and pairing it with a TC Electronics BC210 and then adding another BC210 at a later date. The reason I'm thinking about the BC210 rather than the Ampeg Portaflex series is mainly a space issue as I live in a small flat with my wife and daughter. I would therefore prefer the vertical alignment setup with the BC210s. Does anyone think there maybe any impedance or power issues? Cheers, Paul Edited January 19, 2013 by paul torch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conan Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 [quote name='paul torch' timestamp='1358634814' post='1942728'] Does anyone think there maybe any impedance or power issues? [/quote] Can't see why there would be. Assuming each TC cab has an impedance of 8 ohms, two of them would give a total of 4 ohms - which would allow your amp to produce its "full" power. The four speakers will easily be able to handle the amp's output. Equally, one of them should be more than capable of handling the power of the amp at 8 ohms... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conan Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 [quote name='Conan' timestamp='1358635363' post='1942736'] Can't see why there would be. Assuming each TC cab has an impedance of 8 ohms, two of them would give a total of 4 ohms - which would allow your amp to produce its "full" power. The four speakers will easily be able to handle the amp's output. Equally, one of them should be more than capable of handling the power of the amp at 8 ohms... Why do you think there [i]might[/i] be a problem? [/quote] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul torch Posted January 19, 2013 Author Share Posted January 19, 2013 cheers Conan. I was wondering if there would be an issue with driving the 2 cabs properly as it's 350 watts into 2 250 watt cabs (500w)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xgsjx Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 Like Conan said, there shouldn't be any issues re watts & ohms. If the PF 350 put's out 350 watts at 4Ω, then each cab will get a maximum of 175w. They're capable of dissipating upto 250w, so there's no issues there (the amp puts the power to the speakers, nothing comes from the speakers back to the amp unless there's a short). But, please ignore the watts. If it does sound bad at any point (not in a personal taste thing & more of a farting sound), then do turn either the volume or the bass down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discreet Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 A PF350 will drive 2 X 250W cabs no problem, but for the little extra cash I'd get the PF500 and give myself a bit more headroom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul torch Posted January 19, 2013 Author Share Posted January 19, 2013 [quote name='discreet' timestamp='1358637075' post='1942763'] A PF350 will drive 2 X 250W cabs no problem, but for the little extra cash I'd get the PF500 and give myself a bit more headroom. [/quote] I was thinking of the PF500 as there are couple for sale on here at a reasonable price. I guess I just preferred the simpler layout of the 350: gain bass mid treble volume. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lozz196 Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 Check out youtube for The Bass Whisperers review of these. The 350 seems more traditional SVT, whereas the 500 has a lot more eq options, though always sounds like an Ampeg. The 350 will have no problems with the two cabs mentioned. As with anything, if you hear it farting/blurbing, back off of some gain, or lows, other than that should be fine. I`d make sure you like the sound of the BC cabs though, as although they have tweeters, they are permanently on, no off/volume control on them I believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul torch Posted January 20, 2013 Author Share Posted January 20, 2013 Cheers for the advice Lozz. Re: The tweeter issue, is there another cab that you would recommend that doesn't have this? I would still prefer the 2x10 vertical stacking option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discreet Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 [quote name='paul torch' timestamp='1358637421' post='1942777'] I was thinking of the PF500 as there are couple for sale on here at a reasonable price. I guess I just preferred the simpler layout of the 350: gain bass mid treble volume.[/quote] The compressor and the frequency selector are definitely worth having. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsgbass Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 I went with this Ampeg setup. The Ampeg SVT-7PRO head, and the SVT-410HLF cab. [IMG]http://i1067.photobucket.com/albums/u426/roadrex/Ampeg/SVT7P410.jpg[/IMG][IMG]http://i1067.photobucket.com/albums/u426/roadrex/6601SVT.jpg[/IMG] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_b Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 Any 210 cab can be stacked vertically so you don't have to be limit yourself to TC cabs. If you can spare an extra 3" you could also look at 112 cabs. My 112 cabs are the same width as my vertical 210 (18") but they are 3" deeper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lozz196 Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 [quote name='paul torch' timestamp='1358640775' post='1942826'] Cheers for the advice Lozz. Re: The tweeter issue, is there another cab that you would recommend that doesn't have this? I would still prefer the 2x10 vertical stacking option. [/quote] Well something to possibly look at here would be is a reputable amp-tech could put in an on/off switch on them? Re other 210s, well the ones that have impressed me most from hearing other bassists use them are Markbass. Not cheap, but sound amazing. That`s probably the way I look at gear now - if I`ve heard someone else get a cracking sound I like from something, that`s my recommendation - reviews can only go so far, but my ears should make the choice. And trying cabs/amps in isolation in a music shop can give a fair idea, but it`s in the mix where it counts. So what local bassists get a great sound, then check out their cabs would be a good way to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul torch Posted January 20, 2013 Author Share Posted January 20, 2013 thanks for all the advice guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul torch Posted January 20, 2013 Author Share Posted January 20, 2013 think i'll head down to andertons and try out a few combinations. when it stops snowing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul torch Posted January 20, 2013 Author Share Posted January 20, 2013 [quote name='chris_b' timestamp='1358645097' post='1942873'] Any 210 cab can be stacked vertically so you don't have to be limit yourself to TC cabs. If you can spare an extra 3" you could also look at 112 cabs. My 112 cabs are the same width as my vertical 210 (18") but they are 3" deeper. [/quote] ooh, I hadn't thought about a pair of 112s. do you gig with this set-up? if so how do you get on volume wise? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul torch Posted January 24, 2013 Author Share Posted January 24, 2013 Does anyone have any experience or opinions of the Hartke 210 TP? I've seen a pretty good deal on one of these but it means that I can't try before I buy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt P Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 i'm afraid i can't help with the Hartke cabs but have you considered the Ampeg SVT210AV ? a light, affordable 2x10 that's designed for vertical alignment, similar price to the tc cabs and any store with the pf350 in stock is very likely to have the svt210av in stock too. 200w @ 8ohms per cab should pair nicely with the head and they look fantastic. they were very high on my try out list before my wife gae me permission to blow my budget and order my midgets. i'm pretty sure there are a few guys using svt210av's on here but i can't remember who they are! Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul torch Posted January 24, 2013 Author Share Posted January 24, 2013 Thanks Matt, I'll definitely look into them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt P Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 i forgot to say that there are a few for sale in the marketplace too! might be able to save a few quid! matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul torch Posted January 24, 2013 Author Share Posted January 24, 2013 Cheers Matt. I've done a search in the for sale section but can't seem to see any there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lozz196 Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 [quote name='paul torch' timestamp='1359018816' post='1948433'] Does anyone have any experience or opinions of the Hartke 210 TP? I've seen a pretty good deal on one of these but it means that I can't try before I buy. [/quote] Not used one of those, but did have a 210XL, and my impressions were it was a bit light on lows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul torch Posted January 24, 2013 Author Share Posted January 24, 2013 Thanks Lozz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt P Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 [quote name='paul torch' timestamp='1359023385' post='1948507'] Cheers Matt. I've done a search in the for sale section but can't seem to see any there. [/quote] i must apologise! i've just had a look and there's only one available at the moment (and they'd rather sell with the head) i'm sure that last time i looked there were about 5 SVT210AV's up for grabs. this is the only one i can find at the moment [url="http://basschat.co.uk/topic/196875-ampeg-micro-vr-svt-210av-cab/page__p__1944593__hl__ampeg__fromsearch__1#entry1944593"]http://basschat.co.uk/topic/196875-ampeg-micro-vr-svt-210av-cab/page__p__1944593__hl__ampeg__fromsearch__1#entry1944593[/url] Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul torch Posted January 24, 2013 Author Share Posted January 24, 2013 cheers matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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