0175westwood29 Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCp8vE1ZT0g love nolly's tone! also alot of bassists i like seems to be heading over to these but is there a cheaper pedal that can get close? ie while i save up the 340 odd quid for a new one!!! ive tried the boss odb-3 and that gives a more fuzz kinda sound, never tried an sansamp but as that seems to be more about going for an svt kinda sound which the b7k is not any suggestions? andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrismuzz Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 The B3K is about £200, it doesn't have an EQ or a DI but if you have an amp you won't need those anyway I'm saving for one! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudewheresmybass Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 (edited) Tbh if there was a cheaper alternative, you wouldn't be seeing so many of the darkglass pedals Edited January 1, 2013 by dudewheresmybass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrismuzz Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 [quote name='dudewheresmybass' timestamp='1357078932' post='1917338'] Tbh if there was a cheaper alternative, you wouldn't be seeing so many of the darkglass pedals [/quote] Just wait til Behringer get their mitts on one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ant Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 Yeah, if price is an issue then try the b3k it's the same drive circuit just without the EQ or DI Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0175westwood29 Posted January 1, 2013 Author Share Posted January 1, 2013 [quote name='Ant' timestamp='1357079475' post='1917352'] Yeah, if price is an issue then try the b3k it's the same drive circuit just without the EQ or DI [/quote] its the added eq that i kinda like the look of!! i feared this would be the response sadly, looks like i bbetter see if anyone wants a kidney!? andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamfist Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 [quote name='chrismuzz' timestamp='1357079030' post='1917343'] Just wait til Behringer get their mitts on one [/quote] Lol ! It's true about the B3K/B7K. I have been through a horde of pedals and only the Darkglasses really did that tone. If you are trying to emulate it with other pedals it would have to involve a signal splitter/mixer, a dist pedal plus, probably, an EQ ..... so that would work out more pricy than a B3K. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0175westwood29 Posted January 2, 2013 Author Share Posted January 2, 2013 [quote name='hamfist' timestamp='1357119923' post='1917593'] Lol ! It's true about the B3K/B7K. I have been through a horde of pedals and only the Darkglasses really did that tone. If you are trying to emulate it with other pedals it would have to involve a signal splitter/mixer, a dist pedal plus, probably, an EQ ..... so that would work out more pricy than a B3K. [/quote] this is true i used to used a ehx metal muff and an ls-2 but it would lose to much of the actual note in fuzz unless you dialed the distortion back, the b3/7k seem to be able to get super distorted yet theres always the note clarity. andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrismuzz Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 [quote name='hamfist' timestamp='1357119923' post='1917593'] It's true about the B3K/B7K. I have been through a horde of pedals and only the Darkglasses really did that tone. If you are trying to emulate it with other pedals it would have to involve a signal splitter/mixer, a dist pedal plus, probably, an EQ ..... so that would work out more pricy than a B3K. [/quote] Apparently the Grunt switch is where the magic is at. It adjusts the crossover so that it lets lower frequencies get distorted. This basically means that even if you have the blend knob at 100% wet, you still have a clean low end! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0175westwood29 Posted January 3, 2013 Author Share Posted January 3, 2013 looks like ill be shelling out for a b7k! :-( well not for like a yr as it'll take that long to save up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil.i.stein Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 (edited) i'm a happy b3k user. but, i saw this a while back, and think i'll do this to my old ODB-3 after listening to the clips. trust me. [url="http://www.talkbass.com/forum/f36/monte-allums-boss-odb-3-tri-gain-mod-changes-everything-856593/"]http://www.talkbass....rything-856593/[/url] the mod : [url="http://www.monteallums.com/pedal_mods.html"]http://www.monteallums.com/pedal_mods.html[/url] Edited January 4, 2013 by phil.i.stein Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0175westwood29 Posted January 8, 2013 Author Share Posted January 8, 2013 [quote name='phil.i.stein' timestamp='1357341074' post='1921498'] i'm a happy b3k user. but, i saw this a while back, and think i'll do this to my old ODB-3 after listening to the clips. trust me. [url="http://www.talkbass.com/forum/f36/monte-allums-boss-odb-3-tri-gain-mod-changes-everything-856593/"]http://www.talkbass....rything-856593/[/url] the mod : [url="http://www.monteallums.com/pedal_mods.html"]http://www.monteallu...pedal_mods.html[/url] [/quote] its nice but with out guitars hard to judge, does sound better than a standard odb3 but not a darkglass at all! why is it so expensive!!! andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil.i.stein Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 i know, but believe me the darkglass is the best i've heard. i'm still going to try that ODB mod though (although i'll be sending it to someone who knows wtf they're doing) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0175westwood29 Posted January 8, 2013 Author Share Posted January 8, 2013 [quote name='phil.i.stein' timestamp='1357675084' post='1926592'] i know, but believe me the darkglass is the best i've heard. i'm still going to try that ODB mod though (although i'll be sending it to someone who knows wtf they're doing) [/quote] always best lol andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dood Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 [quote name='phil.i.stein' timestamp='1357341074' post='1921498'] i'm a happy b3k user. but, i saw this a while back, and think i'll do this to my old ODB-3 after listening to the clips. trust me. [url="http://www.talkbass.com/forum/f36/monte-allums-boss-odb-3-tri-gain-mod-changes-everything-856593/"]http://www.talkbass....rything-856593/[/url] the mod : [url="http://www.monteallums.com/pedal_mods.html"]http://www.monteallu...pedal_mods.html[/url] [/quote] Ooooh! Interesting! I may well try this mod too - I'm liking the sound sample lots! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannybuoy Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 I've had that kit for almost a year now - one day I will get round to fitting it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dood Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 Could you do a 'before and after' audio recording if you do? I'd be really interested to hear it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrismuzz Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 (edited) This is mildly on-topic... But my band was recently supported by a metal outfit with 1 bass, 1 guitar, drums and 1 vocalist. The bassist used an Ibanez SR505 through my Markbass rig... The only pedal he used was a Boss ODB-3. No mods. I can honestly say he had one of the best live bass sounds I've ever heard! It sat in the mix perfectly and sounded really natural and organic! Edited January 8, 2013 by chrismuzz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmeDunk Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 Nice mod. But wouldn't the B3 be capable to sound like this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrismuzz Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 [quote name='OmeDunk' timestamp='1357683457' post='1926839'] Nice mod. But wouldn't the B3 be capable to sound like this? [/quote] If you mean the Darkglass B3K, then yes definitely! I know which would be cheaper though Saying that, I'd personally prefer the B3K! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dood Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 [quote name='chrismuzz' timestamp='1357682119' post='1926814'] This is mildly on-topic... But my band was recently supported by a metal outfit with 1 bass, 1 guitar, drums and 1 vocalist. The bassist used an Ibanez SR505 through my Markbass rig... The only pedal he used was a Boss ODB-3. No mods. I can honestly say he had one of the best live bass sounds I've ever heard! It sat in the mix perfectly and sounded really natural and organic! [/quote] I also love the Karnivool bassist's tone too and as I understand it he used an ODB-3 stock and a Tech 21 XXL pedal. - Yes, I'd love the B7k, but should I pull my finger out, I kinda like the fun that a bit of modding may bring - especially if it turns out a killer tone. I *think* the ODB-3 will sound like it has more gain when modded. Though I can't say for certain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dood Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 ...and to add further fun to the pot, I'm going to mod one of the very cheap ODB-3 clones to boot. All in, I think I'll be lucky if I pay out £25 for the whole project! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrismuzz Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 [quote name='dood' timestamp='1357684176' post='1926852'] I also love the Karnivool bassist's tone too and as I understand it he used an ODB-3 stock and a Tech 21 XXL pedal. - Yes, I'd love the B7k, but should I pull my finger out, I kinda like the fun that a bit of modding may bring - especially if it turns out a killer tone. I *think* the ODB-3 will sound like it has more gain when modded. Though I can't say for certain. [/quote] I've got to say, the modded ODB-3 did sound amazing in those clips! I think what I want to do is try going "Comp > Sansamp > B3k" ... I have a sneaking suspicion that part of the magic of the B3k is in the mids though so depending on the results I might have to reconsider the Sansamp! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmeDunk Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 [quote name='chrismuzz' timestamp='1357683925' post='1926849'] If you mean the Darkglass B3K, then yes definitely! I know which would be cheaper though Saying that, I'd personally prefer the B3K! [/quote] No, sorry, I was referring to the Zoom B3. Since you and Dood own the B3, I was wondering if the B3 was capable to get near the sound of the modded ODB3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrismuzz Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 [quote name='OmeDunk' timestamp='1357720020' post='1927064'] No, sorry, I was referring to the Zoom B3. Since you and Dood own the B3, I was wondering if the B3 was capable to get near the sound of the modded ODB3. [/quote] Ahh my bad I haven't fiddled around with the drive settings all that much on it to be honest, as I wasn't too impressed with them. I imagine there will be some good possibilities if you mixed one of them with an EQ, since they have a clean blend, but that would take up two slots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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