electric nate Posted August 4, 2011 Share Posted August 4, 2011 I've been looking for a while, assuming this would exist somewhere, but it doesn't seem to. What I'm searching for is a blendable fx loop with crossover frequency control. This would be useful in applying FX to specific parts of the signal only - so applying overdrive JUST to high frequencies while leaving mids and lows clean - and then being able to blend how much overdriven highs are in the signal versus clean highs. The implication of this being that a subtle grind is added to moderate playing, but something like slapping or digging in hard would result not only in heavy overdrive, but the clean highs still having spank and sparkle. Or indeed you could use it to keep something like a phaser away from your low-end and also have a blend for how much phase you want vs dry for the affected frequencies thus keeping any tone-suck from pedals away from your clean sound. Is this ridiculous or impractical for a company to build? I don't have any electronics experience, so i'm genuinely clueless. Bass players seem to be getting more and more attention from fx manufacturers which is wonderful but I honestly think that few of them have yet to clock on to the idea that subtlety, fidelity and flexibility are massively important when dealing with an instrument that's capable of putting out such a broad range of frequencies and plays such a wide range of roles in music. Maybe something like this exists already and i've missed it? Or maybe there's a simple way of doing it without building a specific pedal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topo morto Posted August 4, 2011 Share Posted August 4, 2011 [url="http://www.sfxsound.co.uk/mainpage.asp?page=xm"]http://www.sfxsound.co.uk/mainpage.asp?page=xm[/url] any good? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Savage Posted August 4, 2011 Share Posted August 4, 2011 [quote name='topo morto' post='1326844' date='Aug 4 2011, 12:59 PM'][url="http://www.sfxsound.co.uk/mainpage.asp?page=xm"]http://www.sfxsound.co.uk/mainpage.asp?page=xm[/url] any good?[/quote] I was just going to post exactly that; the idea of using my guitar 4x10" for the high end of my signal and blending some distortion in while running a clean low end through my 1x15" is becoming VERY appealing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodyratm Posted August 4, 2011 Share Posted August 4, 2011 +1 for Max at SFX. The guy is a god among men when it comes to building fx units. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
electric nate Posted August 4, 2011 Author Share Posted August 4, 2011 (edited) [quote name='topo morto' post='1326844' date='Aug 4 2011, 12:59 PM'][url="http://www.sfxsound.co.uk/mainpage.asp?page=xm"]http://www.sfxsound.co.uk/mainpage.asp?page=xm[/url] any good?[/quote] Yes! This looks perfect! First response to the thread and you've nailed it. I love this place Are there any alternatives worth considering? Edit: I've just noticed the 'mix' portion of X&M is mixing the relative levels of the high and low bands - I was after mixing the effected signal with the clean, which is a slightly different kettle of fish. If that pedal had a master wet/dry knob it'd be perfect Edited August 4, 2011 by electric nate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodyratm Posted August 4, 2011 Share Posted August 4, 2011 [quote name='electric nate' post='1326918' date='Aug 4 2011, 01:31 PM']Yes! This looks perfect! First response to the thread and you've nailed it. I love this place Are there any alternatives worth considering? Edit: I've just noticed the 'mix' portion of X&M is mixing the relative levels of the high and low bands - I was after mixing the effected signal with the clean, which is a slightly different kettle of fish. If that pedal had a master wet/dry knob it'd be perfect[/quote] Max does custom designs/Ideas also. Email him I've had 2 pedals customised by him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ped Posted August 4, 2011 Share Posted August 4, 2011 Yeah speak to him in the affiliates area. Nice idea, actually. ped Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topo morto Posted August 4, 2011 Share Posted August 4, 2011 [quote name='electric nate' post='1326918' date='Aug 4 2011, 01:31 PM']Edit: I've just noticed the 'mix' portion of X&M is mixing the relative levels of the high and low bands - I was after mixing the effected signal with the clean, which is a slightly different kettle of fish. If that pedal had a master wet/dry knob it'd be perfect[/quote] If you wanted a frequency-specific effected sound with a full-range clean, you could try any blender, and run a graphic EQ (like that MXR 10 band one) before the effect in the loop... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Savage Posted August 4, 2011 Share Posted August 4, 2011 [quote name='electric nate' post='1326918' date='Aug 4 2011, 01:31 PM']Yes! This looks perfect! First response to the thread and you've nailed it. I love this place Are there any alternatives worth considering? Edit: I've just noticed the 'mix' portion of X&M is mixing the relative levels of the high and low bands - I was after mixing the effected signal with the clean, which is a slightly different kettle of fish. If that pedal had a master wet/dry knob it'd be perfect[/quote] Surely you could just adjust the output level of your dirt pedal to achieve the same effect? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
electric nate Posted August 4, 2011 Author Share Posted August 4, 2011 [quote name='Ian Savage' post='1326973' date='Aug 4 2011, 02:02 PM']Surely you could just adjust the output level of your dirt pedal to achieve the same effect?[/quote] I could, but the thinking behind my idea was to emulate the sound of running a bass into a bass amp and a guitar amp together so adding distortion to the highs whilst keeping lows clean and retaining a clean full range signal for definition. Turning the gain or output down on the dirtbox is still going to give the character of the dirtbox and doesn't let me have a clean signal doubling the dirty signal. At some point I'd love to run this setup using a proper guitar head into a power brake, instead of a bass dirt box, but all this is just a dream at the moment! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xgsjx Posted August 4, 2011 Share Posted August 4, 2011 Silentfly [sfx] seems like a good bloke & has offered to look at building me a pedal for blending my signals (that will be used for blending signals I split from the bass murf & put through various fx). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRedX Posted August 4, 2011 Share Posted August 4, 2011 I have a Peavey BassFex rack-mount multi effects unit. One of the modules is a crossover and you can put it anywhere in the effects chain that you want. Any effects before the crossover are applied to the whole signal, any after the crossover are applied to either the treble of bass frequencies depending on which signal path they have been routed to. Is that the sort of thing you are looking to do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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