Line6 Bass Pod XT??

[Faithless]

Hello again, folks

So, it seems, that I'm not the first one pissed with that Gearbox problem.
I've just checked Line6 forums, there are few threads about GearBox + Bass XT Live thing, and it says, that at the moment there is no actual patch or something for compactibility.
And, there are huge doubts, if there will ever be one, cuz Line6 crew doesn't bother to care about Bass XT Live problems(updates on timely bases and stuff...)

There's some thread about this:

[url="http://line6.com/support/thread.jspa?messageID=18498&#18498"]http://line6.com/support/thread.jspa?messa...8498&#18498[/url]

[Faithless]

So, fellow POD XT owners, what are your favourite amp/head and cabinet models? Maybe have some 'pearly' combinations?

C'mon, share 'em here!


My currently favourite is Hiwatt head with 4x10 Hiwatt amp, which I use with my Ibanez GSR for some crunchy, heavy sound...

But I can't find anything 'warm'..

[ped]

Stink Synth
[url="http://dl-client.getdropbox.com/u/85432/line6%20patches/Stink%20synth.l6t"]http://dl-client.getdropbox.com/u/85432/li...ink%20synth.l6t[/url]

SVT Grit
[url="http://dl-client.getdropbox.com/u/85432/line6%20patches/SVT%20grit.l6t"]http://dl-client.getdropbox.com/u/85432/li.../SVT%20grit.l6t[/url]

Studio clean fretted
[url="http://dl-client.getdropbox.com/u/85432/line6%20patches/Vigier%20Studio%204.l6t"]http://dl-client.getdropbox.com/u/85432/li...0Studio%204.l6t[/url]

Studio clean fretless
[url="http://dl-client.getdropbox.com/u/85432/line6%20patches/Vigier%20Studio%20FL.l6t"]http://dl-client.getdropbox.com/u/85432/li...Studio%20FL.l6t[/url]

These are the studio settings I tended to use mostly, enjoy!

[bassoctopus]

[quote name='Faithless' post='321843' date='Nov 4 2008, 02:53 PM']So, fellow POD XT owners, what are your favourite amp/head and cabinet models? Maybe have some 'pearly' combinations?

C'mon, share 'em here!


My currently favourite is Hiwatt head with 4x10 Hiwatt amp, which I use with my Ibanez GSR for some crunchy, heavy sound...

But I can't find anything 'warm'..[/quote]

I find the Adam and Eve to be the warmest amp on my POD. Crank the bottom end up to 3oclock.

[ped]

I used to use that too but I didn't like the way it handled the top end as much, so I used the GK mostly ('eighties') which was very natural sounding with my bass.
ped

[Faithless]

Ah, I've tried GK patch on last night's practise, and, gotta say, I liked it pretty much...

[Faithless]

Hey, what the funk? Tonight we've been recording drummer's parts (for an upcoming album bla bla...), and I was straight DI'ed to desk from my Line6 XT Live..

The interesting thing is, that when I'm DI'ed, Volume Pedal doesn't 'cut' the guitar's sound (if I'm playing it, naturally..),even if it's brought down fully (minimum Pedal's Volume is set to zero, of course..)..

Only when I turn the guitar's knob off, then it's silent...

What should I do to cope with this?

[ped]

Hmm, never had the 'Live' version so unfamiliar with the pedal options/control, sorry....

ped

[mud]

[quote name='Faithless' post='323708' date='Nov 6 2008, 08:10 PM']Hey, what the funk? Tonight we've been recording drummer's parts (for an upcoming album bla bla...), and I was straight DI'ed to desk from my Line6 XT Live..

The interesting thing is, that when I'm DI'ed, Volume Pedal doesn't 'cut' the guitar's sound (if I'm playing it, naturally..),even if it's brought down fully (minimum Pedal's Volume is set to zero, of course..)..

Only when I turn the guitar's knob off, then it's silent...

What should I do to cope with this? [/quote]

Check the di is set to Post and not Pre, sounds to me like your bypassing the pedal and it's just your natural guitar sound coming through.

[Faithless]

Ah, really!! Thanks, mate, I'll check it, when I'll be able - Line6's lying at the studio now..

[LukeFRC]

I just got a POD xt live off of Carlsim, It looks like its going to take hours of fiddeling to get the good stuff out.

Currently taking your advice Ped and going through and setting all the amps flat. It was annoying me how they weren't.

I bought it to play with effects and the fact that being able to use it as an audio interface meant that it was cheaper than individual pedals or a boss multi fx unit.

One thing that i realised thought, going into the return channel on my Hughes and Kettner QT600 which goes into a tech soundsystem 2x12 is with everything off and flat on the POD how good the streamer sounds! The H&K pre-amp has a great sound (works amazing with my P bass) but not so well with the Warwick.

[LukeFRC]

Also any opinions on the Cab modeling?

Part of me thinks that if you are plugging it into a cab then it makes sense to turn off the Cab modeling. But then that 8x10 model does seem to make it sound good.
what ppl think?

[LukeFRC]

Playing around...
P bass sounds a lot better without the amp modeling, just use the box for effects and stuff. It seems to loose a lot of the dynamics through the models, it just sounds fake and cheap. But then my amp does sound quite good anyway so maybe thats not that surprising.

The warwick doesnt really get on with my amp so thats sounds better with the modeling and fed in through the effects return. I don't know why but that doesnt loose anything of its sound.
interesting.

Of course my regualar playing place is at church where we have a ashdown amd stack. Im quite looking forward to bypassing that ashdown preamp! Everything will sound different with that system.

[ped]

I found that each bass ended up sounding best with very different settings (as it looks like you are, too)

On the whole, I didn't use the cab modelling other than for special sounds.

My main setup was:

Vigier 4 fretted - 'adam and eve' head with a touch of EQ, reverb, compression (loved the compressor in the XT)
Vigier 4 fretless - 'SM500 head and EA 1x12 cab, reverb, chorus (switchable) and eq, comp
Vigier 5 fretted - 'Eighties' head, reverb, compression

...And a couple of 'specials' - stink synth being a fave which had all sorts going on.

Through my amplifier at the time (Trace V4) I bypasses all modelling but used a touch of compression and reverb.

I really loved my XT pro and even though the route to finding the right tones was long and fiddly, when i had then dialled, it was a great plug and play unit, it worked in the studio, live and at home, and my basses sounded like themselves without any messing about.

Now I use the Roland Vbass which is arguably harder to use but I still have the same sound through everything as I did with the pod. I guess I wanted the most 'honest' sound for each bass and mainly used it as an audio interface and compressor.

Here are my settings if you want to mess about with them:

[url="http://dl-client.getdropbox.com/u/85432/line6%20patches/Stink%20synth.l6t"]http://dl-client.getdropbox.com/u/85432/li...ink%20synth.l6t[/url]
[url="http://dl-client.getdropbox.com/u/85432/line6%20patches/Stink%20wop.l6t"]http://dl-client.getdropbox.com/u/85432/li...Stink%20wop.l6t[/url]
[url="http://dl-client.getdropbox.com/u/85432/line6%20patches/SVT%20grit.l6t"]http://dl-client.getdropbox.com/u/85432/li.../SVT%20grit.l6t[/url]
[url="http://dl-client.getdropbox.com/u/85432/line6%20patches/Vigier%20Studio%204.l6t"]http://dl-client.getdropbox.com/u/85432/li...0Studio%204.l6t[/url]
[url="http://dl-client.getdropbox.com/u/85432/line6%20patches/Vigier%20Studio%20FL.l6t"]http://dl-client.getdropbox.com/u/85432/li...Studio%20FL.l6t[/url]

Cheers
ped

P.s some samples of the sounds being used (just to show how bass specific they are - they will probably sound totally different on your bass)
[url="http://www.freewebs.com/mrped/facethemusic.htm"]http://www.freewebs.com/mrped/facethemusic.htm[/url]
(Torrential - fretless setting)
(2001 - stink synth)
[url="http://www.freewebs.com/mrped/apps/videos/videos/view/939477-vigier-guitars-demo"]http://www.freewebs.com/mrped/apps/videos/...er-guitars-demo[/url]
(Vigier fretted 4 setting, fretless setting and 5 string setting)

[LukeFRC]

Thanks Ped!

Your settings are usefull thanks, good starting point for working out my own.

I think my H+K and your trace are similar in thier tubey sounds (trace with lots of tubes, H+K with one and electronic trickery to make it sound like it) which means the modeling is a wee bit pointless.
We shall see what happens in the 10 min set up time I have with the ashdown next week...

its very bass dependent. I have the feeling if you had not so good basses then you could use it to shape the tone. With better sounding basses I guess you want/need less tone shaping. Nomally my P bass goes into the amp with everything flat except one of the low mid freq which seems to be a resonant freq. of the hall

[Lew-Bass]

So, to sum up for me in my situation, would it:

A) be possible for me to just get one of these and a power amp, plug this into the power amp and then straight into the PA (no need for a cab)?

be possible to do this with either version (the 'live' version or the one that looks more like a typical head - is there any difference in their functionality?)

C) act as a huge bundle of customisable effect pedals ASWELL?

Thanks guys, seriously intrigued by this

[BOD2]

[quote name='Lew-Bass' post='559876' date='Aug 4 2009, 06:22 AM']So, to sum up for me in my situation, would it:

A) be possible for me to just get one of these and a power amp, plug this into the power amp and then straight into the PA (no need for a cab)?

be possible to do this with either version (the 'live' version or the one that looks more like a typical head - is there any difference in their functionality?)

C) act as a huge bundle of customisable effect pedals ASWELL?

Thanks guys, seriously intrigued by this[/quote]


A) If you are plugging direct into the PA you don't need a power amp at all - just plug the Pod into to the PA directly for the front of house sound. What you might need, though, is some type of "monitor" system so that you can hear yourself playing - either a feed back from the PA mixer to a monitor or a separate feed from the Pod into a small amp/cab or monitor.

The "live" versions are built into pedal boards. The other versions would need separate pedal boards if you want to switch them while playing.

C) Yes - programmable "patches" means you can select pedal combinations quickl.

[ped]

[quote name='BOD2' post='559996' date='Aug 4 2009, 10:33 AM']A) If you are plugging direct into the PA you don't need a power amp at all - just plug the Pod into to the PA directly for the front of house sound. What you might need, though, is some type of "monitor" system so that you can hear yourself playing - either a feed back from the PA mixer to a monitor or a separate feed from the Pod into a small amp/cab or monitor.[/quote]

I gigged a few times like this and for my personal monitoring just used my Shure in ears from the headphone jack. Sounded great and worked a treat. Still do it now and again, and always in the studio.

[Lew-Bass]

[quote name='BOD2' post='559996' date='Aug 4 2009, 10:33 AM']A) If you are plugging direct into the PA you don't need a power amp at all - just plug the Pod into to the PA directly for the front of house sound. What you might need, though, is some type of "monitor" system so that you can hear yourself playing - either a feed back from the PA mixer to a monitor or a separate feed from the Pod into a small amp/cab or monitor.

The "live" versions are built into pedal boards. The other versions would need separate pedal boards if you want to switch them while playing.

C) Yes - programmable "patches" means you can select pedal combinations quickl.[/quote]

Thanks alot for the information mate. So if I wanted to gig with it, all I'd need essentially would be; the Bass POD XT itself, a pedalboad (which would probably end up being the FBV Shortboard), a PA and a form of monitoring?

Ped: The in-ear thing sounds very interesting also; what is it actually like having your sound in your ears? Is it all you can hear? Just it will be my first time gigging so in all honesty I wanna soak up the atmosphere!

EDIT: Just taken a look at the price of in-ear monitoring... I think the house floor wedges will do me great

Cheers

Edited August 4, 2009 by Lew-Bass

[ped]

Yeah it is expensive - initially I was just using the headphone output with the foam tips on my headphones so I could hear myself perfectly but the sound of the band filtered through, too. It was very cheap and worked really well in some venues.

[Lew-Bass]

Sorry if I seem to be asking the same question, but I still haven't quite got it straight in my head.. is the 'live' version a lesser version in anyway? It's just the fact it's cheaper, but it's built in to a pedalboard so logic would say to me it would be the more expensive one... :wacko:

[ped]

It has some different outputs... if you look at the site, the XT Pro has SP/dif (or something) ins and outs and a couple of other things. In terms of the sound and software they are identical.

[Dood]

[quote name='ped' post='560411' date='Aug 4 2009, 05:27 PM']It has some different outputs... if you look at the site, the XT Pro has SP/dif (or something) ins and outs and a couple of other things. In terms of the sound and software they are identical.[/quote]


The man, he speak the truth!

[LukeFRC]

Lew-bass first time gigging don't worry about headphones, also, to be honest if its your first time an normal amp may be better than a POD into desk and foldback. You need to trust the soundguy less and its that one less thing to have to worry about. Then once you have played a few gigs you will have confidence to go without the trouser moving amp behind you. That may just be me though.

Well I took my Bass Pod xt live to church to use today. Spent friday eve programming in few nice useable sounds.
It was good, the tones cut through way more than the ashdown head we normally use but in a cleaner way. I found to my cost how to overwrite sounds on the fly but fortunatly i had a second version of my tones saved I could use.
The chorus effect i was using i hadnt got set up quite right and it threw my timing a bit, (and a fast song) but got some nice overdriven SVT sounds and a warm smooth tone too.
I'm not sure the effects which is why i bought it will have much use, what it is good for is finding and shaping just the right tone for that setting. Positive and got some comments that it sounded good.