bubinga5 Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 Got my hands on Meshell Ndegeocello's new album last week, I know there are a few admirers of this great bass player/musician, on Basschat.. Seems like she's really branching out into new territory, which i do like, but cant help but wish she would bring out something in the vain of Peace Beyond Passion, or Plantation Lullabies again.....Shes one of those musicians who are constantly evolving and pushing forward... Her playing is not that technical but she plays with such feel, and what a tone she gets from that Fodera and Jazz, etc... Any thoughts? By the way the album is called 'The world has made me man of my dreams'...check it out.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhsteel Posted February 7, 2008 Share Posted February 7, 2008 Love Meshell's playing. Especially the early stuff like you say. Haven't checked out the new album yet but have heard mixed reviews for it. I'll probably still get it. Comfort Woman was a great album too. Some hefty dub bass going on there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassjamm Posted February 7, 2008 Share Posted February 7, 2008 Hey man... Michell's playing is awesome...her time and feel are up ther with the best in my opinion, she's just one hot player. I've got the Plantation Lullabies and Peace Beyound Passion, and every time i listen to them, i just can't get over her playing. Also, the video clips that i've seen have just made me even me a fan of hers, she just has awesome funk within her, love it!!! I've not heard the new one, only the tunes on here mysapce, sounded a bit Indie to me, i still plan on getting it...was gutted that i couldn't get over to Ireland to see her on her recent tour I've also heard the albut with the funky writting on the cover (white background, red writting), she's got Matthew Garrison playing on it...that's an awesome album too!!! She's definately a wicked player though...you say not the most technically gifted, but i don't know...if you're talking about double-tumbing, 4 finger picking etc, then yeah, your right...but when it comes to grooving, i personally get more from an inspirational point of view, from Meshell's playing, than that over some of todays most technically gifted players. She grooves like very few can in my opinion, take 'make me wanna holler', pure filth What's your overall thoughts on the album though...has it got some grooves? More of her crazy ranting lyrics? Still trying to work out what she's getting at with some of the Peace Beyound Passion lyrics...lol!!! Ooo...and for all of her fans on here...i've managed to convert my band too, we've added 'Bittersweet' to our set, sounds sweet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubinga5 Posted February 8, 2008 Author Share Posted February 8, 2008 Yeah Bittersweat, what a song! very uplifting..As for the Lyrics on PBP, some are Political some Religous, some personal(Make me wanna holler) I dont think the album as a whole makes one statement, maybe several!... The key to Meshells bass playing is her simplicity,IMHO. The new one is not what i had hoped for, but good in respect of a different musical direction and i think musicians should push themselves into new territory.. Your prob aware of this but check out www.freemyheart.com it has all the session albums she has played on. I want to see her work with Prince,(which i believe she wants to do) now that would be funky!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassjamm Posted February 8, 2008 Share Posted February 8, 2008 Indeed it would...another artisit who i've been listening to a lot recently! Got to see him last year on his tour...what a performer!!! Yeah, she does have quite a simply approach, but still, some of her grooves are solid man, her feel for the time, i mean, just some of her fills, they're simply as you say, but in some ways...i don't know. I think sometimes it's just that she has such a great feel for the groove that her phrasing is totally unique, that's the best way for me to put it i think, she just has a completely unique feel which i really love!!! I'll check out that site though mate, thanks for that!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bottomfeed Posted February 9, 2008 Share Posted February 9, 2008 I really like the way she plays..... she's gotta be one of my favorite bass players soulful, tasteful & in the pocket.... beautiful sense of groove..... 'I'm digging you' 'if that's your Boyfriend' 'Thankful' 'Bitter' 'Stay' (....those dead notes! ) 'luqman' (off 'dance of the infidels') 'the sloganeer' 'virgo' all great bass parts for very different reasons..... some very minimal but so well placed.... (less is more!) 'make me wanna holler'..... .... anyone who gets 'my mother used to whore herself... & my father used to reap the benefits of her labours' in as a 1st line of a song, deserves to be listened to!........... A real unique player, indeed.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwi Posted February 9, 2008 Share Posted February 9, 2008 I'm one of those long time BC fans. Her lyrics can be a little pretentious at times but there's no escaping her playing. I saw her at the Jazz Cafe a couple of years ago and the incredible diversity of the crowd who showed up was a tribute to the breadth of her appeal. BTW, when she played that full 99min concert in Switzerland, it was recorded although it hasn't been published yet. You can still see a stream of it here though if you have Realplayer installed. [url="http://r.bluewin.ch/?id=48859"]http://r.bluewin.ch/?id=48859[/url] If anyone can capture the stream onto their hard disk, please let me know. I'd love an offline copy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassjamm Posted February 10, 2008 Share Posted February 10, 2008 Yeah Steve, her lyrcis can be a little 'out there'!!! It's interesting to listen to them i think...although, from my religious point of view, i think some of them are questionable, that's when i stop being silly and start listening back to her playing I've enjoyed watching her vids where she's been in the studio, with another bassist...how she interacts with the other player, and plays around him...that's just awesome!!! I just downloaded the tracks that she played on on Mike Sterns latest album as well as the Soulive track...some wicked playing!!! As we've established...simple yet right on the button groove wise. I've got a lot to learn from her playing!!! Did anyone get a chance to see her on the current tour? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ped Posted February 10, 2008 Share Posted February 10, 2008 I just discovered this album, it has her guesting on a couple of tracks: really groovy stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassjamm Posted February 10, 2008 Share Posted February 10, 2008 [quote name='ped' post='137415' date='Feb 10 2008, 12:57 AM']I just discovered this album, it has her guesting on a couple of tracks: really groovy stuff.[/quote] oooo....downloading as i type kind sir Ped!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ped Posted February 10, 2008 Share Posted February 10, 2008 Nice. Track 8 is her on bass I think - Freddie Washington is on the album too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubinga5 Posted February 12, 2008 Author Share Posted February 12, 2008 I think she has had a few problems playing at concerts of late, because she has epilepsy. People being unaware of this and taking alot of flash photography. Tis a good album that Roy Hargrove. Pino Palladino is great on it too!! Yes her lyrical themes can be strong and out there but thats what makes her interesting IMHO.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pauljdcooper Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 just ordered comfort woman and cookie: anthropological mixtape that will just about complete my collection of this brilliant womans music. hard to take lyrics and sweet soulful bass lines, ahhh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassjamm Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 I downloaded 'Dance of the Infidel' of iTunes the other day...some wicked stuff on there, nice playing from both her and Matt Garrison!!! Has anyone else got any of the albums that she's guested on? I'd like to know more about them if so! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul_C Posted February 14, 2008 Share Posted February 14, 2008 the new CD arrived here this morning, it's all good so far Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubinga5 Posted February 14, 2008 Author Share Posted February 14, 2008 Just a couple. Marcus Miller- Rush over/vocals Chaka Khan- ~Never miss the water/vocals/bass Just an unrelated comment. Just got Maceo Parker's 'dial Maceo', for anyone who likes modern funk, great stuff.(or any Maceo Parker) IMHO.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassjamm Posted February 14, 2008 Share Posted February 14, 2008 Might have to give that one a go as well then...Maceo can be cool indeed he can!!! Are your 2 suggestions specific tracks or albums mate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubinga5 Posted February 15, 2008 Author Share Posted February 15, 2008 Just tracks Bassjamm, wish they were whole albums Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urb Posted February 15, 2008 Share Posted February 15, 2008 She's fab - Dance of the Infidell CD is fantatsic - Matt Garrison is amazing on it too - beautiful funky music! Meshell also guests on Mike Stern's [b]Who Let The Cats Out[/b] CD - on the track KT: [url="http://www.cduniverse.com/search/xx/music/pid/7246877/a/Who+Let+The+Cats+Out.htm"]http://www.cduniverse.com/search/xx/music/...he+Cats+Out.htm[/url] Other featured bassists on there also include Richad Bona, Anthony Jackson and Chris Minh Doky - it's a good record. M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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