Lord Sausage

I'm going to a long time friends (school) soon. There will be a lot of muso's there so there will be bands playing and other musical stuff. I think it's an extraordinarily bad idea. It turns the wedding into a gig, diverts attention from the bride (and in reality it's her day). Plus it means people have to focus on what's going on and detracts from what a wedding should be, a celebration.

[quote name='Monckyman' timestamp='1360610592' post='1973388'] You said that like it was a bad thing. [/quote]No! No! Not at all, It was more a statement!

Some have told CIJ is better, some MIJ. Others have told me it's just MIJ is for export, CIJ is for Japanese market. What's the truth?!

Is there an easy way to explain theory. I understand theory to quite a high level and whenever i read people explain it to others my brain just glosses over and it almost makes me not understand it!

Manchester bands don't rehearse. they just get their haircut like Noel, get some retro threads and talk about The Smiths and Joy Division

How dare he play covers and not totally original art, what a disgrace!

So i've took it in to be set up. As the B rattles and the A does at 1 and the G is a bit dead at 5. The guy said he'll do set up and that he may posibly have to do a kind of fret dress, even though it's fretless, not sure what he means. He said after altering truss rod etc some the neck may need smoothing out in places. I trust the guy as my mate has had loads of gtrs set up by him really well and an ovation acoustic sorted. Anyone heard of what he means?...apologies for piss poor description!

[quote name='xilddx' timestamp='1360415832' post='1969988'] Not sure what to make of that, but thank you, that's a very lovely compliment! I do think people can accept music with integrity that's not dumbed down, Everything Everything's success gives me great confidence in that. Cheers! [/quote]I only say it as most things i think are terrible are really successful whereas things i like aren't. To be fair i've only heard a couple of things a couple of times but really liked them. Good Luck!

[quote name='lurksalot' timestamp='1360358383' post='1969460'] I always had the impression that muscle memory is just training the brain by repetition of the muscle movement. its kind of why you can pick your nose without really thinking about it ............. and then your mum shouts at you , then your wife , and then your kids , the dog ...........maybe not such a good analogy [/quote]The way out of that is to just gross them out by eating it!

[quote name='BassTractor' timestamp='1360355947' post='1969388'] . I notice my language limits are showing, but: If you're only talking about improving one's playing abilities in general, then I'm with you. However, I get the idea that you're also saying that one can not (almost) totally prepare a certain song or piece for a gig or concert without having played it. In case, I disagree. Or: in fact, it's wrong. When one reaches an adequate level of mastering the instrument and the visualisation, this is not a problem, provided the visualisation doesn't stop in the vision department, but also incorporates "visualising" the necessary movements and tensions: as in programming the brain with the signals it will have to send to the muscles later (yes, my English isn't adequate here - I hope you still understand). Exactly this was my preferred concert preparation: always saving time by preparing one of the pieces without playing it, only reading it on the commuter train, thinking about it and making notes - - with the exception of the last few days before the concert, which were used for ironing out some mistakes and quirks. A process like this would normally take three months or so, but I was a slow one, and could easily use five to six months on a concert programme. best, bert [/quote]What he said!

[quote name='ubassman' timestamp='1360337669' post='1968948'] [s][color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]1. Jimbothy[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]2. Paul JH[/font][/color][/s] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]3. Lord Sausage - could I be after you please? If yes, then:[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]4. JazzBassFan[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]5. Ubassman[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]6. TommyK (Please, thank you, thank you etc..)[/font][/color] Movin on up the list ....and Lord Sausage is a fast reader too ! [/quote]I'll hammer it when i get it and send it on to JazzBassFan the day after i've finished. (I do all my reading at night)

I read something somewhere about a large portion of any practise is all in the brain, it may have been 2/3, and the rest physical so if you spend a lot of time visualising practising when you are unable to practise it will help. It was in New Scientist i think!

[quote name='lurksalot' timestamp='1360351719' post='1969250'] I am similar to you but I have started to do a bit of scale practise based on the fact that you only develop muscle memory if you give it something to memorise. I can pretty much play Summer of 69 blindfold , and that only comes from gigging it week after week for ???? years . [/quote]I don't go in for all this muscle memory stuff, it's just the brain. We don't have muscles in our fingers!

[quote name='Dad3353' timestamp='1360352927' post='1969285'] Perhaps, but is it art..? Discuss... [/quote]It's probably more Entertainment!

[quote name='peteb' timestamp='1360350819' post='1969233'] Yep, that will be me and I would strongly suggest that should be the general starting point for any music that is based on a backbeat. Of course, like all rules it can be disregarded at will but IMO that should be the fallback position. For me, the drums and bass should work together as a unit and provide a foundation for the vocals and chordal / lead instruments. One of the nicest compliments I ever received wasn’t someone telling me how impressive my individual bass playing was. It came from a very talented guitarist & vocalist who is reasonably well known and who does sessions in London (Jake Newman has mentioned on here working with him) as well as his own stuff and a few bands (i.e. a very good musician who knows his stuff). He sat in for a couple of tunes on a blues gig I was playing. After the gig, we were chatting and exchanging pleasantries and I mentioned that it was the drummer’s first gig with the band. He seemed genuinely surprised, so I told him that we had played together in a couple of other bands for ten years. His response was that he could tell and that we worked together well and were a really good rhythm section. That meant a lot more to me as a bass player than someone being impressed by the odd bits of nonsense you sometimes throw in!! [/quote]I wouldn't say any form of music! When you're playing ballads in musicals you're lucky if you get to play any notes after beat 1 in a bar!

[quote name='discreet' timestamp='1360349241' post='1969192'] [/quote]Now that really is Expression!

[quote name='xilddx' timestamp='1360339384' post='1968994'] That really is the only way isn't it. [/quote]Aye!

[quote name='xilddx' timestamp='1360338920' post='1968984'] Grown up as in an experienced gigging and recording musician. I actually think a lot of people get given a song and think 'what am I going to do with the bass?' instead of 'what am I going to do with the music?' [/quote] Yeah, i can dig it! When i was 15 i probably thought like that. But i learned pretty quick. I'm lucky that all the muso's i've worked with recently apart from the last drummer, always think musically and not instrumentally.

[quote name='xilddx' timestamp='1360337023' post='1968925'] I remember a grown up musician on here (can't remember who) saying pretty much every note on the kick drum should be covered by a bass note. I honestly couldn't comprehend why anyone would believe that. Bizarre [/quote] Grown up musician? What is this, that of you speak?!

[quote name='xilddx' timestamp='1360335150' post='1968873'] That's almost exactly how I approach bass lines with Kit. It works really well generally. Playing to the vocal is my thing, playing to the drums is most definitely not as important to me as designing lines that support the vocal. I like to let the drums have a lot of space, I like to hear them shine. [/quote]I try to play with the drums, support the harmony, play with the geets and support/play off the vocals depending on the tune and what it's doing. as Bill Hicks says 'I am the weaver'.

[quote name='redstriper' timestamp='1360278029' post='1968145'] Agreed, I've been ganged up on by the BC massive before and it's very unpleasant - I notice a few of the same names are involved here. Some people just like to put the boot in and they feel stronger with their gang in support. Very easy on line, but I wonder how tough these people are face to face, one on one. It's all a bit 'Lord Of The Flies' and quite unnecessary. [/quote] I had a 'to do' with a number who i considered to be the BC elite, it may include some of the names you mean, when i was a relative newbie. I found it far from unpleasant. It was pretty heavy and the thread got edited due to one of the kings requests, I think. I just stood my ground without being disrespectful, and i could have been as i know one of them tho i don't think they remember me. They were quite disrespectful to me, well they thought they were but i took it with a pinch of salt. The longer i've been here i've got to know a couple a little better tho i have no 'friends' on here yet. essentially they were hjust protecting their site and it's unwritten rules, which at the time was part of my argument (how they behave). But they really care about this place, i don't think it's personal or bullying. They just look out for each other.

[quote name='Happy Jack' timestamp='1360323373' post='1968529'] You say ee-ther, and I say ai-ther ... [/quote] oh dear!

I'm afraid i think FB is the way it is. last year we did a number of original gigs and all the promoters were pushing the use of FB for promoting. It's basically gonna become SKYNET

just get it set up in e flat