Lord Sausage

Is it me or is there a lot of meanness on BC this yr? Since the start of the year there has been a few 'Most hateful threads (quotes, songs etc). Criticising people for Youtube vids, other critical threads. Now this, criticising for terminology and use of words..f*** me this is sad. I'm sure BC not always been this bad!

God there's some miserable bastards on here. Can't people just enjoy themselves. Surely the initial point of Youtube was to share your own video's with people. It's not like everyone is trying to do their own Mona Lisa.

Excellent! Well done fella! Good Luck!

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[quote name='Doddy' timestamp='1358897209' post='1946936'] I don't know if it's a matter organisation. A lot of people don't want the hassle and expense of posting the scores out to the various musicians,especially when it's generally expected that they can read well enough o do the gig anyway. I've rarely had to read piano scores as well....the only time I have is when an Am Dram company is doing a compilation show and they just photocopy a piano reduction to give to everyone. It is annoying when you get them though. [/quote] I know an incredible guitarist who demands pads a couple of weeks before the show. When i last did a show with him which featured Kerry Ellis who works with Brian May he blew her away with his playing. Anyway he says you can have it good with a first time read or incredible because i know it inside out and can apply all the nuances. He always gets the pad!

[quote name='scalpy' timestamp='1358888620' post='1946722'] Kills me that to. I do 6 or 7 am dram shows a year, always get the part 5 to 6 weeks in advance. And you won't get to do You're the One That I Want in Grease. The publishers are very, very hot on changing the stage script to the movie version, and when you sign the contract to do the show there's whole pages on what you're not allowed to do! [/quote] Yeah when i did it we couldn't do that!

[quote name='Doddy' timestamp='1358812810' post='1945657'] You've been very lucky then if you get them weeks in advance. Literally every show I've done, I've not seen the pad until the first band call. [/quote] Luck or i've just worked with more organised MD's. Don't get me wrong, I've had a couple where you get it just before or when you get there. A lot of the time it's friggin piano score has well so your reading 12 lines below. Which frankly pisses me off!

[quote name='lowdown' timestamp='1358877469' post='1946451'] Surely a great deal of knowledge can be gained from 'Books' ? - Melody/Harmoney/Counter part, how the great classical composers went about it. Rimsky Korsakov's principle of Orchestration is still much used today. [b]Free On-line Study here[/b], well worth a look. [url="http://www.northernsounds.com/forum/forumdisplay.php/77-Principles-of-Orchestration-On-line"]http://www.northerns...tration-On-line[/url] Garry [/quote] He's kind of the daddy of orchestration took it nearly to it's limit. He taught Stravinsky Composition and Orchestration. Stravinsky probably surpassed him but only just and he was massively influenced by him.

[quote name='BigRedX' timestamp='1358872778' post='1946360'] My heart is for pumping blood around my body. It has no part in the process of composing music. I normally hear pretty much the whole musical arrangement as a finished piece in my head. I then have to work out what the arrangement is and how to play it. [/quote] So that's what it does!

[quote name='BigRedX' timestamp='1358867314' post='1946271'] Compositions should come from your head, not your fingers, or what you believe music theory is telling you. [/quote] [quote name='Bilbo' timestamp='1358871537' post='1946339'] I propose that composition is a mixture of heart AND head. The ideas germinate emotionally but the process of development is partly inspiration and partly good old-fashioned graft. [/quote] Compositions should be a mix of all your musical personality. Your feel, inspiration mixed with your knowledge of the language of music. You can express yourself better the more you know verbally and it's the same with music. I love composing and i don't feel trapped by two chords or by complexity. Stravinsky, after being criticised by Schonberg (serialist composer) said something along the lines of ' Why should I be trapped by 13 notes when i have the freedom of seven'. I've done lots of different styles thru college, uni and after from Rock songs to Jazz big band to Glassian Minimalism to jazz fusion to Prog. It just depends where your voice and head is. The only restriction i feel is in the recording. I could write a full big band piece, chords, melody, counter-melody and score it for all instruments at a piano but never get it recorded unless i used midi and it would just sound sh*t. So i tend to just compose now within what i can record at home. But i'm definitely not restricted by musical language and ideas.

I was in a band that played a friends 18th birthday years ago. The drummer dropped a pill before we started playing. The first 45 mins was good but after that the tempos just got faster and faster. To be honest it was pretty funny. I wouldn't wanna do it again tho. I was on edge for a lot of the gig, expecting the worst!

[quote name='Ninja_Baby' timestamp='1350553906' post='1840350'] Any excuse to show my newest member of the family. [/quote]Initially i thought the pattern on the curtains which is reflected on the scratchplate, was like a hologram in the scratchplate. Which i thought 'How f***in cool is that!'. Unfortunately not. Still a cool bass tho!

It's just different! Not good. If this was the original would it have been popular. Probably no!

[quote name='Myke' timestamp='1358789625' post='1945049'] The last one I 'did' I had the pad before the rehearsals but if I have to do it on the day, I wouldn't be able to and I don't want that to be the case and then to let them down. And may I be cheeky and ask which show it is? If you don't want to say, it's no problem! Good luck with it! [/quote]RENT

[quote name='Doddy' timestamp='1358698569' post='1943545'] What Lowdown said is bang on. I've done a load of shows (not Grease though),and I've never been given the pad before the first band call.In fact,my first show was depping for my then-teacher so I didn't even have the luxury of a rehearsal..it was straight in at the deep end. Getting and learning the CD may help,but remember that there is every likely hood that things will change (cut from bar 112 to 124 etc.) so you can't rely too much on that approach. With regards to emailing the MD,I can only say that every show that I've done has been through recommendation. The MD will probably have a list of players that they regularly use and an unsolicited email (I'd prefer a phone call) [i]may [/i]get you on the bottom of that list,but don't count on it-especially as the only experience you have is nearly doing a show at uni. If you want to get into this line of work,I think that you'd be better off finding the players who are doing this work and taking some lessons.You'll improve your reading and they may put you forward for deps where you will (hopefully) be able to prove yourself. A recommendation is a million times better than an unsolicited email. [/quote] To be fair, the opposite can be true. I've done lots of shows where i've had the pad weeks in advance. Pro and Am Dram. I'm going on Tour in April with a pro show and i'm getting the pad next week!

Yeah, I've done it a couple of times. Easy and much fun. I've never had to do a covering letter though, when doing theatre gigs.

I used to get pissed all the time when younger. When i was at college a lecturer, who was a pro musician and genius, told us to practise pissed when at home cos as a musician you do loads of gigs pissed. We took that to heart. Now i just have a couple before i play.

I'm umming and aahing about gettin one. This is quite helpful, but it consolidates my indecisiveness

[quote name='MrTaff' timestamp='1358608321' post='1942131'] Would this have been posted if it was a guy playing? and the answer is NO. [/quote] Word!

Apparently she's only been playing two years......

I have a CIJ version. Love it. I should add its fretless, so its prob loads different!

[quote name='Marvin' timestamp='1358532230' post='1941061'] Had one of their sausages once, awful! [/quote] ha ha class

Why not just transpose all the songs into different keys and re learn them, the old fashioned way. It may be unpopular but isn't that part of what musicianship is about!

[quote name='uncle psychosis' timestamp='1358509397' post='1940435'] To dismiss [i]any[/i] player is ignorant as far as I'm concerned.I don't really like what Victor Wooten does and have no interest in the slappy-slappy thing but I watched some of his tutorial videos and picked up some cool tips on groove and time. People might not think Hook's music is worthy of a "masterclass" but to categorically state that he'll be unable to impart any musical wisdom to anyone is just arrogant twaddle as I said before. Some of the most useful tips I've ever learned came from so-called "inferior" players and I've taught things to players much "better" than me. I've learned all sorts of things from all sorts of people, and the day I start thinking "this person can't teach me anything" before I've even heard what they have to say is the day I stop playing. [/quote] Bang on the money! I remeber whilst at Uni i taught a lecturer some theory. He had a Phd in Music( Renaissance admittedly), and i was showing him some jazz theory. Conversely the person I've learnt the most off hardly knows any theory!

I usedto at School, college and uni. I was a Bass,obviously.