Ian Savage

I'll be playing it by ear as to whether I can get, doing a 'take-it-as-it-comes' summer holiday this year so don't know when I'll be in the country - if I am I'm there! And Shell, car-share sounds good to me

[quote name='Mornats' timestamp='1374070313' post='2144961'] How thick would a basstrap have to be in the corner? Or, in other words, if I were to badger a mate into making some for me, what size should I be aiming for? If they can be portable, I can see them being much more practical. [/quote] Obviously a corner basstrap would have varying thicknesses as you go through the cross-section of it; it's only in any way effective on wavelengths up to around eight times its maximum depth, as a general rule. So if you want a trap to be effective down to 50Hz (wavelength of about 6.6m), you want it to be about 0.8m thick at its deepest point - enough to take a good chunk out of any room!

[quote name='51m0n' timestamp='1374059683' post='2144753'] You can always DIY some gobos and use them around your space; since they are free standing they can be positioned across corners as bass traps and just off walls as broadband absorption, and if you are tracking you can use them to mask the room from the thing you are recording.... [/quote] I do have a couple of free-standing absorbers which I built in my dad's garage, just never got around to putting them up. Need to run a frequency response analysis of my room at some stage actually, it sounds fairly even to my ears but it'd be nice to know if the science backs me up (and maybe give me a tuned absorber project to have a go at over the summer...)

I'm lucky enough that in living on my own my recording setup IS my home entertainment setup, so the speakers I listen to far and away more often than any others are my monitors. I rent my flat so haven't been able to do much in terms of room treatment, but from getting to know my system inside-out I tend to be able to get decent mixes relatively easily.

I've got the WMS40 - good little unit (although the power supply for the one I bought was faulty), used it on mid-sized stages without problems. Never more than a few metres from my amp though, I tend to use wireless as much for avoiding getting shocks from microphones as for roaming the stage.

[quote name='seashell' timestamp='1373976901' post='2143730'] And you're a drummer as well IIRC! [/quote] Kit-less at the minute though, sadly!

[quote name='seashell' timestamp='1373908725' post='2143018'] This is all sounding rather good! I'm free most Saturdays or Sundays over the coming weeks, so hopefully will be able to make it. Maybe some of us could look at sharing transport from Brum? [/quote] Might be up for that Shell - guitarist myself too! Not sure if my amp's up to the job but we could find out...

You can pick up a Boss LS2 secondhand for £35-40, if you're bothered about output levels that'd probably work out cheaper and less faff than building one yourself with trim pots. Or just use icastle's method

[quote name='seashell' timestamp='1373834320' post='2142135'] Well done for strarting to get this off the ground. The trouble with weekdays is that a lot of us have day jobs. You're right that weekends can also be tricky as people have commiments and gigs etc. But all the bashes I have been to before have been on a Saturday afternoon. I'd struggle to get over to Staffs on a weekday. [/quote] Pretty much this; Stoke's a bit of a mission for me but I'll keep an eye on the thread!

[quote name='lurksalot' timestamp='1373812950' post='2141843'] Can you build this stuff in? would plasterboarding/skimming over the stuff negate its effectiveness? I realise that Higher frequencies will bounce of hard surfaces but I was underthe impression that lower frequencies were more penetrative thus might get the treatment even if the stuff was hidden . [/quote] Well, I'd imagine that the wrapping around those tubes of Rockwool isn't acoustically transparent, so probably; however if you start building in extra sheets of plasterboard you run the risk of introducing extra resonances in the room as the plasterboard vibrates in sympathy with the low-end. It's relatively easy to build custom frames that you can just stuff with Rockwool and cover with fabric (hessian seems to work well) - hardest part I found was cutting the Rockwool to size.

[quote name='skankdelvar' timestamp='1373817133' post='2141890'] "Bass-chappie!" "Master-at-Arms?" "Did you shag Mrs Mulwray, the Texan oil heiress last night?" "No, Sir. Tops and fingers only." "You may carry on, Bass-chappie" [/quote] Actual LOL

I might be up for such a thing, depending on when and where.

[quote name='Truckstop' timestamp='1373675883' post='2140588'] The usual guitarist is awesome; knows all the chords... [/quote] Is his name George?

[quote name='The Dark Lord' timestamp='1373654593' post='2140325'] Yeah. I see what you are saying. It's just if you look at the two units side-by-side, they are virtually identical in layout - so I assumed they were both using the same PCB - but they might be a copy. [/quote] No, the control layouts are flipped if you look a bit harder - I suspect that's all they have to do legally to make it not an actionable ripoff. I used to work for a pro-audio company, we were tearing our hair out at how Behringer managed to do stuff so cheap; suspicions were that they didn't have an R&D department as such, just a bunch of guys tearing apart other manufacturers' equipment, working out the circuits and building them for piss-all in China. Not that I'm bitter

[quote name='Qlank' timestamp='1373653338' post='2140310'] Take some weed, they seem to be to be a bit picky about booze. [/quote] Aye, is there a 'no buckets of cocaine and methamphetamine' clause?

[quote name='The Dark Lord' timestamp='1373628705' post='2139823'] Well. If you lookie here, you will see something curious: [url="http://www.gear4music.com/PA-DJ-and-Lighting/Mackie-SRM150-Compact-PA-System-single/8GK?origin=product-ads&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_term=&utm_campaign=PLA+Mackie&utm_content=AqYwn3qH%7Cdc_pcrid_31405737559_plid__kword__match__"]http://www.gear4musi..._kword__match__[/url] What looks like the same product but badged as a Mackie for £100 more. I have a general "no Behringer" rule myself. Most of their stuff is too low budget for me. But this little thing just fitted the bill. I mount mine on a mike stand at head height to the left of me behind the PA stack and only me knows it's there. [/quote] Hmm, not sure that's so much a 're-badging' as Behringer pulling their usual trick of ripping off someone else's design and building it down to a price point using their economies of scale and labour exploitation - that said, the ones they're ripping off now tend to have the same EoS and exploitation so there's no reason for the Mackie to cost a ton more :s Yeah, be worth swallowing your scruples and having a look at the Berry, should do the job nicely...

I guess the point of them is if you get your sound purely from pedals and use your amp mainly as a stage monitor, the sound guy can run his/her DI from your pedalboard which gives them a bit more control (and takes out one more thing that can go wrong ). Out of the ones that I've used, the M80 is indeed excellent, and on the cheap the Behringer one's surprisingly good. Hartke Bass Attack has the feature as well, I'd take one of those...wasn't mad-keen on the EHX Bass Metaphors though, good enough unit but quite hard to 'dial in' and didn't play well with other pedals on the same power supply.

[quote name='51m0n' timestamp='1373635645' post='2139954'] Love the Harbeth HHB Circle 5s, great sounding, and, well, soooo purple [/quote] That MAY have been part of the reason behind getting them