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If it was me the first thing I would do with that sort of cashmis get an Aguilar DB751 and two Aguilar DB112 Cabs. I never got on with Ampeg for some reason but that is a good option if they are your thing and they always seem to be popular and in fashion unlike some other amps. Just a note though, almost any amp will suit Rock/Metal IMHO. I have seen some seriosuly heavy bands using Ashdown, Euphonic Audio, Markbass, Eden, SWR.... the list goes on. I suppose it comes down to whether you want a valve tone or not to start with. Just find something you like and make it work for you If you want to be heard maybe go for a cleaner sounding amp. I heard a guy in a Cardiff based hard rock band using an EA Iamp, great sound a cut through guitarist no bother.

I just bought an Aggie Cab from Mark (Gunsfreddy2003) great cab in excellent condition, great price, great comms and a generally top chap to deal with. He even delivered it as I was unable to collect due to car troubles, highly recommended. Cheers Mark.

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[quote name='molan' post='913399' date='Aug 3 2010, 12:12 AM']Now that's a funky line up for a Bank Holiday Monday! [url="http://www.hamptoncourtbeerandjazz.com/bands.htm"]http://www.hamptoncourtbeerandjazz.com/bands.htm[/url] Size Nine, Snowboy & JTQ on the Friday as well if that's your thang [/quote] You are a star for posting this, I would never have heard about it otherwise. Incognito and Brand New Heavies on the same bill, just brilliant. Got to think of a way to get the missus interested now!

Apologies in advance for a massively shameless plug here, but I have a EBS Proline 2x12 4 ohm cabinet in the for sale thread: [url="http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=97033"]http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=97033[/url] They are amazing cabs, very clear, very punchy and despite not being Neo cabs are much lighter than anything else I have owned and no hassle to move on your own. For some reason you can pick up the Proline cabs quite cheap as everyone goes for the Neo. Its a shame because they are Incredible good and if you want another cab to go with it, I think Bass Direct have a few other cabs in the Proline series available used. Good luck with your search. [quote name='Count Bassy' post='912378' date='Aug 2 2010, 12:07 AM']I recently bought a Marshall DBS7400, but don't yet have proper bass cabs to use with it. I've played it through one of my PA Cabs (15" + 8" + Tweeter) and the sound is montrous, even though its an 8ohm cab and the amp is designed to deliver its 400Watts into 2 ohm. Anyway, I seem to really like the sound of 12" cabs (more than 10s and more than 15s), and have been looking around for something suitable. There was a Marshall 4x12 cab going (7412), but this was montrously heavy (74 KG - almost 11 Stone!) and even then was only 4 ohm so still not getting the max out of the amp. So what I'm ideally looking for is a 2 x12" 4 ohm cab, able to take 200 - 300 watts continuous, with very high peak capability (The DBS 7400 can peak at 4000W into 2 ohm) Then I want another one exactly the same so that I can have one on its own, or 2 stacked to give me a 2 ohm 4x12 4-600 watt continuous rig, according to the requirements on the night. I'm guessing that two 2x12s would be a lot easier to handle than one 4 x12, and would also allow me to phase my expenditure. Also being 2x12's it wouldn't have to be lightweight stuff and hence might be cheaper. Marshall themselves used to do '7212' cab, 400W at 4 ohm, wighing in at 32Kg each, so a couple of these might be ideal, but I've never seen one for sale. Anyone got any suggestions (I haven't got a huge budget) Thanks in advance Clive.[/quote]

Thanks for the advice guys, I read the manual 3 times and just now on my fourth read spotted the line "The Jacks are wired in parallel" . . .stupid! So I think after reading your replies I will probably go out from both Jacks in the head. Like Protium said, at least if one goes wrong or gets pulled out I still have sound. I think I will get OBBM to make me up some nice cables to do the job. I presume I can have Jack to Speakon cables made to do the job? I prefer speakon's as they cant be pulled out by stray feet as easily. Thanks for your help chaps, my headache has gone now. Its amazing how I have managed to get by not knowing these things, always had single cabs though so I gues thats almost an excuse. Cheers, Nathan

Hello, I am having a bit of a mental overload trying to work out how I would wire up two Aguilar GS112 cabinets with my Eden WTX260. The Eden has one Speakon and two 1/4" Jack speaker outputs and the Aguilars have one Speakon and two 1/4" jacks on their back panel, but I have no idea what will be the best way to connect it all up. My head runs most powerful at 4ohms and I know that in theory, two 8 ohm cabs together should give me 4 ohm load, but how will I know that my head is actually 'seeing' 4 ohms? Can I daisychain them, so: Speakon from head to jack on cab one, then speakon from cab one to Jack on cab 2? Will this make my amp run at 4 ohm? [color="#8B0000"]EDIT: I posted the above questions and got some good advice from the gentlemen below so I know kind of how I will set things up so nothing explodes. However I still have a couple more really stupid questions I cannot find answers to. 1. If I use the Jack outputs from the head to go to the cabs, do I have to use both of them or can I use just one Jack and one Speakon? Will this still be in paralell? 2. Does it matter which of the two Jack sockets I use on the back of the cabs to go in from the head and out to another cab or are they the same, and both work as "ins and outs"? I am sure I used to know all this...... [/color]

It might be worth having a look for a Eden WTX 260 or 500. I have the WTX260 and it is a fantastic amp, big sound plenty of volume for most band situations, plenty of tone shaping with a real clean modern tone to it. It also has L/R Aux in and phones out which is fantatsic for silent practicing, as well as tuner out and mute button. I love mine, it can do sparkling top end when I need it to or bid dub bass and most things in between and the best thing of all is that it weighs about 3lbs and goes in my gig bag. I love it and am actually thinking about going up to the 500w version if the 8 piece band i play with starts doing bigger gigs, they are so loud!

Just a quick not to say if you get a chance go and check out a chap called Marc Broussard. Some fantastic Soul/Blues/Funk music with some really classy bass playing, and one of the best recorded bass tones I have heard in ages on his latest album 'Keep Coming Back'. His bass player is a Nordstrand/Nordy endorser I think, thats how I found out about Marc. Link to myspace: [url="http://www.myspace.com/marcbroussard"]http://www.myspace.com/marcbroussard[/url]

[quote name='bubinga5' post='902297' date='Jul 22 2010, 08:13 PM']Got a gig soon with a funk outfit...got a list of tunes..i know most of them like Parliament, Stevie, JB, Chic,Isley b's...Trying to get them to do Do I Do!! maybe next time..anyone play any of these...? also anyone got any good vids of them/anyone playing them..its always great to see different takes on em Gimme some lovin / Stevie Winwood Taxman / The Beatles I wish / Stevie Wonder Hard to Handle / Black Crowes or Otis Redding Knock on Wood - Eddie Floyd I'm a Man - Spencer Davis Group It's Your thing - Isley Brothers Get out my life women - Lee Dorsey Take me higher - Sly & the Family Stone - Superstition - Stevie Wonder - Give up the funk - Parliament Play that funkee music - Wild Cherry Livin For the city - Stevie Wonder Sex machine - James Brown Good Times/Rappers Delight - Chic sugarhill gang[/quote] Just started playing a couple of these with a band recently. Although I usually try and get stuff by ear to start with, I did find that typing the name of the tune and 'bass' afterwards in youtube usually yielded some good results. Also Marlowe DK's websites were really useful for some tricky parts I couldnt hear properly on some recordings. Its good to see how other people play the tunes too. Superstition is great fun to play and reproducing the original synth bass (I dont think it was originally a bass guitar) on 5 string is great fun and I actually quite like the original line. The band I am playing with want to change the key and do a medley with play that funky music, I am sure that it has been a million times before but its a bit of fun. Some fun tunes there, let us know when your playing, too many rock/metal bands and not enough funk.

Wow this post got brought back from the dead! It seems since I originally posted there have been a few more company's building 5 string Precisions and with some active EQs and extra pickups, the most recent I have seen are the new Nordstrand P basses. I have also noticed The LowEnd making a kind of 'Super P' as well, but these are £2000 basses plus. I know Sadowsky make one as well but only the NYC basses as far as I can see. I think the point of my original post was that at the time (and still actually) I would love a reasonably priced 5 string P bass with maybe a Jazz or soapbar (Nordstarnd big single or fatstack) at the bridge and maybe a simple EQ. Squier made a fantastic Jazz V deluxe, why no 'proper' 5 string P (I know Squier made a 5 string P with 2 jazz pickups). I think the closest thing to a more stock off the peg super P is the Fender Precision Plus mentioned above and they dont make that anymore which is a shame as I remeber it being a very good bass. Anyway no real point to what I am saying. I just wondered why The Jazz bass look and layout has been so heavily tweaked and modified for 'Super Jazzes' (sometimes to the point where they dont sound much like a good old jazz) but noone has done it much to the P bass until recently? I know there are plenty of companies making superb Precisions, but I still wouldnt mind seeing a 5 string P/J Precision for under £1000 (without modifying). Maybe as has been posted before there is simply no need for it. Sorry rambled on a bit incoherently, it is friday to be fair.

Top spec Alleva Coppollo Jazz 5 string, but throw enough money at Jimi Coppollo to make a neck with the most unbelievable birdseye maple, with that really expensive rosewood (Dalbergia Negra? might as well go all out) fretboard with blocks and binding. Tasty!

I was just having a browse at some high end bass manufacturer sites as you do, and came across these lovely looking things on the Nordstrand site, the white 5 string precision makes my knees go all wobbly. Don't really see much on here Nordstrand wise, lot of love for them on TalkBass though. [attachment=54321:3_vp_web.jpg] [attachment=54322:4_complete_web_000.jpg] [attachment=54323:5_vp_web_000.jpg] [attachment=54324:193_web.jpg]

Well I caught this by chance last night and have to say I thought it was bloody great. I have never been much of a Muse fan but I thought the show last night was superb and and through my speakers I thought the sounds was brilliant for a festival gig. When Chris and the drummer kicked in it felt like i was being beaten up it was so powerful and BIG sounding. I thought the bass was a little low but the drums sounded great! might just be down to what setup you have with your TV.

I will echo suggestions made above, keep your hands dry and clean the neck regularly. I keep a beer towel or duster on top of my amp at all times and just keep my hands dry and polish the neck if things get super sticky, but it doesnt happen that often. If you play energetic music and sweat a lot I can highly recommend using sporty wrist bands, I used to use one with my old hard rock band and it made a huge difference and kept the sweat away. I agree with BigRedX though I think it depends of the type of glossy finish used on the instrument some brands/guitars are better than others.

Thanks for all of the posts, loads to think about. I think the first thing I am going to do is try some flats on my backup bass. The songs might not have been played on flats but I have never tried them before so as Beedster said I feel I owe it to myself to try some. If it does go some way to re-creating the sound then that is a bonus. I also think I will be less concerned about nailing the exact tone and as OldGit and chris_b say, find something that can be well heard and works in the band and just get a good overall approximation. Cheers for the suggestions chaps, just need to have a look around for a good 5 string set of Flats now, where did that search button go....

[quote name='bubinga5' post='875462' date='Jun 23 2010, 02:41 PM']Aha i knew it was you..i saw you on youtube with the Progress and put 2 and 2 together....im erm.... Andrew that played with The Fennel briefly before...Pete and CO (may) have mentioned me...i saw you play at the Frog... Anyways i was thinking you had a Fender jazz, with my recommended tone adjustments....I take it the OW Jazz is active..if so, do you know what pre is in it?[/quote] Aha your Andrew, I too saw you on youtube playing with them, ha ha small world. They have been through so many members! I saw a video or picture with you and a bass i did not recognise, if it had been your rather nice Sei I would have made the link straight away, not many of those in Cheltenham. The Overwater has a John East BTB-01 stacked bass/treble control with Vol/Bal. Its a good unit but I am thinking about having it changed for some more flexibility, maybe the full U-Retro Deluxe with active 'tone' control. That might give me a few more classic tones as well as the super modern. Dont you have a East Pre in your Sei?

[quote name='bubinga5' post='875388' date='Jun 23 2010, 01:40 PM']Dont think any of those bassists used flats on those recordings..roll off the tone on your jazz..is it a fender...The Mc Fadden and White head tune sounds like its played on a P Bass..so does the Bee Gees track... That tone for a jazz, i would roll off the bridge and roll down the tone... Hey NJE i didnt realise you were a cheltenham man...me too!! Hey do you play a Overwater at the moment...what band have you played for recently?[/quote] Yeah been in Cheltenham for about 2 years now, great place with a good local music shop too which was a bonus when I moved up. Anyway yes I have a Overwater Jazz at the moment but used to have a Progress 3, and I was/am playing with a local band called the Fennel Sitaution, its good fun and they are nice guys but I have now just joined this soul/disco type band which hopefully will gig a bit more and potentially make some cash. Anyway back on topic... I was wondering whether a few of the tunes were P basses and the dead-ish sound was more down to the recording quality and my ears. Plus I know Bernard Edwards used to use a Stingray so dont knwo what I was thinking putting the Chic tune down. I think perhaps I need to experiment a bit more. I tried panning off the bridge pickup and it does help but it still sounds too vibrant, maybe its the new strings and the bass is very bright sounding, considderably more than my old Progress. Might also just be a case of more practice and a technique adjustment.

Hey all, Just after a bit of advice and some opinions with regards to these tunes. I have just joined a 8 piece soul/funk/disco band and am in the process of learning all of the tunes. I have been given a few tunes to get started on and although making progress with the actual notes I am having some issues with getting the sound. The following tracks seem to have very stoccato, burpy, dead sounding bass tones and I was wondering if it was the way the bass was recorded or technique or am I in fact listening to basses with flatwounds on? Having never had experience of flats I am wondering if getting some would help me get the sound? My jazz sounds too zingy and bright for some of these tunes despite some EQ fiddling. Songs: Aint no stopping us now Le Freak Boogie Wonderland Lost in Music You to me are everything Disco Inferno You should be dancing Any Ideas?