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[quote name='BigRedX' timestamp='1385991987' post='2294359'] For me the whole point of using a pick is that it doesn't sound like finger style. [/quote] Yep.

[quote name='sarah thomas' timestamp='1385919400' post='2293627'] I I'm hoping for one of these this Christmas. 40 euros from kontrabass atelier in Frankfurt. [/quote] They look stable enough here:

[quote name='fatgoogle' timestamp='1385928435' post='2293776'] I keep mine with the endpin out in a corner and there's been no problems ever so far as i can tell. I'd really like a stand that you could leave the end pin out while its on the stand but none seem to allow this. [/quote] Mine is on a stand with the end pin out, one of these; ... but it makes the bass take up even more space. I had presumed that the Roth and Junius allowed the end pin out.

[quote name='Beedster' timestamp='1385928180' post='2293771'] Can I assume that it's generally not recommended to keep the instrument on its endpin? [/quote] Good question, I don't know.

[quote name='Dingus' timestamp='1385927897' post='2293762'] It's an Ibanez Musician Bass in Polar White , the model from the era of these basses between 1982 and 1986. [/quote] You must be correct:

I'm guessing John Birch.

[quote name='sarah thomas' timestamp='1385919400' post='2293627'] I'm hoping for one of these this Christmas. 40 euros from kontrabass atelier in Frankfurt. [/quote] That's a better price but I'm thinking it looks less stable. Have you seen one in action, so to speak.

It's a bit pricy to take a punt on, that's my feeling.

[quote name='Beedster' timestamp='1385915402' post='2293558'] Damn, thought you were welling one Dave [/quote] Welling ... er ... selling? No, sorry but I might be buying one if someone says 'oh yes they are perfect.'

[quote name='spongebob' timestamp='1385915001' post='2293552'] I think a lot of people know Mark King - ie numerous 'non' bass players know him and that he's a bassist. The Jam were regulars on TOTP - I was a bit young, but I think he was pretty high profile - and played on very successful chart singles that featured prominent bass. Probably lots of other examples I can't think of now....! [/quote] Sorry, but I'm really not convinced by either example.

[quote name='discreet' timestamp='1385914007' post='2293532'] Then it depends on your definition of 'mainstream'. Yes were definitely 'mainstream' - if you were a twelve-year-old who was into prog rock in 1972, that is. [/quote] I was a twenty-year-old and not into prog rock but I did know who Squire was. The mainstream would not have known what prog rock was let alone its niceties or its bassists. You'd be better off choosing McCartney as an example but still most people would not be 'wow' because he played bass. What? McCartney played bass? What does that mean?

[quote name='discreet' timestamp='1385913626' post='2293524'] Dunno. Chris Squire when 'Roundabout' was released, maybe? 1972 or thereabouts. [/quote] Almost everybody in the world has never heard of Chris Squire and they have no idea who he is. In 1972 most people didn't even know who 'Yes' were let alone know they had a bass player, or even what a bass player is or was.

[quote name='spongebob' timestamp='1385910138' post='2293461'] I can +1 on much of the above here. I share the opinion that current records really lack prominent bass parts and mixing, even bands I like seem to have lost the art of recording their own bass players! Also agree that 'the scene' also lacks a bassist/s that people collectively 'wow' at in the mainstream. I can't remember the last time I saw, for example, 'Later', and was taken aback by a player who inspired me. [/quote] When did the mainstream 'collectively wow' over any bass player?

Anyone tried one of these? [url="http://www.thomann.de/gb/rothjunius_bst_2w_wooden_bass_stand.htm"]http://www.thomann.de/gb/rothjunius_bst_2w_wooden_bass_stand.htm[/url]

[quote name='Pete Academy' timestamp='1385841676' post='2292821'] I speak to music reps all the time. Bass sales are down significantly. I think the bottom line (no pun intended) is that it's not a cool instrument at present. [/quote] Even if new bass sales are down there remain plenty of used basses for sale - and they are substanbtially cheaper. Anyway is it really only bass sales that are down? We're in a recession so surely it's all sales that are down.

Hi Ed, welcome to Basschat. [quote name='thebasswhisperer' timestamp='1385746328' post='2291831'] My opinions are not un-biased, if I'm shooting a demo, you can assume that I like the featured piece. I will no longer bother with junk, only top gear that I am personally into playing. [/quote] Is that why you manage to make everything sound pretty good?

Perhaps people fancied trying a six-string but then quickly found that they had no real use for it.

The ways in which strings wear may also be related to how they are played; soft touch verus hard touch (right or left hand), pick or fingers, sweat chemistry, condition of frets, etc etc.

I can't say that this fits at all with my experience of 'young kids' over the last few years. My son (now 19) and his mates and his bands are into all sorts of instruments including guitar, keyboards, bass and drums but - and this is the difference from when I was in my late teens - also including trumpet and trombone and accordion and banjo and violin and viola and harmonica and melodica etc etc .... and they never listen to mainstream radio ... and they are not very interested in rock music ... .... and anyway which 'young kids' are going to buy a £1500 Fender Dimension Bass? None of them, I should think.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBqcHDDuDo8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RG0eRHCTNw

[quote name='chris_b' timestamp='1384966537' post='2282922'] Motown was targeted at white audiences so that's why we "got it". Not many people "got" blues at the start. Many more did after the 60's blues boom. Anyway this is splitting hairs. I don't think it's very good but my point is do we understand good and bad in Chinese music and Iranian Music? So why should be understand what's good in Hip Hop? In the "projects" they might think this is great. [/quote] Motown was not targetted at white audiences, it was intially black audiences then mixed audiences. So, after all, it turns out that many people 'got' the blues. If you really think the average Basschatter's understanding of hip hop is on about the same level as their knowing about Chinese or Iranian music then I despair. There may well be some experts here on Chinese and/or Iranian music on Basschat or at least people who have listened to that stuff but they will be few and far between but many of us have heard hip hop regularly for thirty years and more. Although I hadn't properly realised Kanye West was hip hop until you told me; I thought it was just pop music of a trivial and poor kind. If you really think white people can't understand hip hop (and that is what you seem to be saying) then I want to resist saying that is simple and straightforward racism but I really don't know how else to understand it. I've never understood metal. Is that also because I am a white boy?

[quote name='geoffbyrne' timestamp='1384964047' post='2282873'] Sorry - if that's right we should never have 'got' Blues. G. [/quote] ... or Motown etc. etc.

That's a spoof surely. It's not real is it? Is it?