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Outdoors maybe but my indie band has a pair of 732s and a pair of 705iis. Indoors we just use one sub, it easily outpaces both tops. Excuse the fan photo nicked from Facebook, normally I purposefully try to not photograph the pa and cables. The guitarists both have amps on stage, but I just have a (usually highpassed) wedge, the one sub is doing it all.

Thanks guys, I wasn't looking for a pep talk but I'll be honest it was nice! I need to remember I've been in one band for 13 years and another for 7. No good comparing 4 months to that.

It's at least partly us. Early days yet, that was our 7th gig. But I'm wondering if the truth is just that we're not very good.

Another week, another dead pub. Not sure how many more of these I can take. Flat singing (not me) and spending too much time messing on with the mixer (me), no energy from the crowd which we are all definitely reflecting. Humbug! Setup (it did get a little busier!) Stage Video

There's a deal on at the moment where you get a $50 discount off the membership (which I understand) but also two other courses "at $400 value" for free. I'm a little confused, do members not get all of the courses? If so, what's the point of membership? Is this like onlyfans where you pay a membership fee just for the privilege of buying content? Stuck in a rut, want to learn more theory.

Band: Pop Rock Riot Gear: G&L SB2. Shure Wireless, HX Stomp. Senneheiser EW and Shure SE215. We played a gig in Sunderland on Friday (so I'm a day late, sorry) that was a mixed bag. It transpired that the venue never puts bands on on a Friday, Friday is karaoke night. But the karaoke person had cancelled so they shoved a band on anyway. All the locals showed up expecting the karaoke, and then most of them left again when they realised the bait and switch. This, mixed with the fact that Sunderland had Cubix festival last weekend and Monument Festival this weekend, meant that revelers were in very, very short supply. Oh dear. Anyway, those that were there loved us and we got a chance to try out some new songs live for the first time in a safe space. Video from Jack Elliott.mp4

There was an andertons video on the guitars, they look fantastic. Yes, I suppose that's the point of putting them on a shop's channel. Still, they did.

We played Anti Hero about 15 times about 10 different ways this week. Couldn't make it fit. I worry what the band next to us thought, but we've learnt and won't be playing it live.

They've both made more people happy, sold more records, made more money, and seen more of the world by playing bass than I ever did.

Hey man whatever works for you. I don't have an amp on stage, but our PA subs cross over at 120Hz and Id say 95% of the noise my bass makes is coming mainly from the tops. Maybe it'd be different if I was playing flats with my thumb in a reggae band.

Sweet, thanks! Are they good? (Of course I think I'll be finding out for myself soon)

Even if I wanted a subwoofer on stage, with all the drawbacks that would bring, there's just not much bass guitar in the subwoofer range.

After years of combat gating whilst trying to play bass at the same time, pretty much the second best thing I did for foh sound (after buying a digital desk) was put all the backing vocal mics on optogates. Not so important on a silent stage granted, but ours is ampless, not silent. And every mic is a drum mic.

Oh no that sounds terrible, they wouldn't work for me then 😆 Glad you're enjoying them,nnothing better than a sweet new rig. I had (and loved) the 2x8 combo, if the cabs are anything like that they'll be great.

Careful with the impedance, especially if they're bridged.

They're great units. Just like BigRedX I've a history of trying to make a bass amp more like a pa system. I've had racks with channel strips and pa power amps, as well as Kempers, Helicies and a few others. I had an original rack bass pod pro! The only frfr cabs I ever used with my Kemper were a pair (well, usually just one) Barefaced FR800. Sadly discontinued and something that I really regret selling, but just awesome. 800 watts into what was essentially a Barefaced Big Baby. My Kemper never crossed over with any of my other attempts at frfr stage amplification but I have no reason to believe it wouldn't work just fine with any of the usual contenders from RCF, QSC, etc. Sorry about the crap photo. Camera phones weren't so good in eons passed

Yeah of course man, I know me and you have been on thread before extolling the virtues of the guitar amp models in Helix, or just not using any amps/cabs at all. I just wouldn't want someone new to digital fakery thinking that amp models were just an eq block is all. Funnily enough I've joined a pop punk band. I attacked the Helix the way I normally would and never quite got it right, until I had to make a patch really quickly and so I just faked a normal rig and set up a patch using an SVT/810 model with a compressor after it. Stuck with it, it's the right sound for this band. I mean, yawn, but it works!

I disagree with a lot of that mind. I agree with you that, a lot of the time, you don't need an amp or cab model to achieve great tones, or even the tone you want. A lot of my helix patches don't have amp and cab sims. The 'artistry' or whether or not one should use an amp model, cab model, or IR is up to personal choice. However, factually speaking the amp and cab models in the helix (and especially in the kemper) are much much more than just eq filters. They're an interactive, deep, musical, piece of code that can do things to a sound that no amount of eq could ever do. Except maybe a constantly adjusted, instant real time eq along with compression and distortion. But if we're doing that, then isn't everything that we do (including note choice) just eq?

The Harley Benton ones are great yeah. Much bigger than the average though. I know you said you don't need anything and so they aren't worth it, but I mean are you really really sure you don't need anything else from Thomann? You've been very good this year. The BC ones were a limited run unfortunately. Although maybe @ped still has some behind the sofa or in an old pair of pants?

I have some of the Harley Benton ones. To be honest I don't use them much as my basses all have staplocks, but that has caught me out a few times as my strap now can't really be used with any other basses. I always make sure to have some rubber washers in my gig bag, 'cos you never know. The Harley Benton ones seem just fine and I was already putting an order in, so for like £2 for 4 they weren't bad. Might be tempted to sort a bulk bag on ebay or aliexpress if I used them all the time though. I know you said you aren't bothered about the branding, but could these convince you?

I would do this with a second hand bass I bought from somewhere/someone trusted but the person who deps for me in my indie once apparently (I wasn't there obviously) showed up to the gig with a sealed cardboard box. He used a pen knife to take the staples out, pulled the plastic wrap off and unleashed his new Sire V7. It had been delivered as he was packing the car. That's commitment, have you seen the way some delivery basses arrive new from warehouses? That Nash is GORGEOUS. I have been on the lookout for just such a vintage-looking super p. If you don't bond with it, let me know first?

That's the proper way, right? That's the way my two Spectors are done. That's the way I've done any 2+2.

It's the strings yeah!

Yeah if you're using the filter in the subs then run the tops full range.

If you're ever gigging anywhere near Newcastle (you're not a million miles away) then happy to loan you my mixer or I'll soundman for a gig if that helps? I've had my XR18 for something like 9 years now and there's no way I would go back to a desk desk.