Beedster

That’s because for many of us a band is ultimately a hobby, if it’s a job that’s fine, but that it is a job for some does not mean that the same rules re fees apply across the board. If all the venues go under, where are we gonna play? Musicians need to help venues through what I hope is the tail end of a very bad five years for many of them 👍

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That's my point, I doubt many people are getting them but I know people who are expecting them

Fair point but probably not because it's their job - i.e., how they pay their rent - not their hobby. For most musicians, in real terms it's their hobby not their job. Those musicians for whom it is their job would, like the bar staff, say 'not unless you're paying'.

I'm interested in knowing your thoughts/experience before I go ahead with installing a P-PUP in what looks to be close the Mark Hoppus Bass position, albeit with the coils in conventional arrangement with bass coil further from the bridge than the treble coil (the body has another PUP closer to the bridge and a currently unoccupied P-PUP rout hence this question). What might be the benefits, what might be the limitations? Thanks

This is true, but many are simply struggling. Live music is an ecosystem, bands depend on venues, venues depend on bands. The venue side of the equation is facing hell at present, costs are going up significantly, revenues are coming down significantly. Too many bands expect the same fees they were commanding in 2021, so it's easy for a venue to give the appearance of badly run when they're in a lose/lose situation much of the time (by that I mean they lose if the don't put bands on and lose if they do)

Re the Hoppus Bass what are people's thoughts on the PUP being closer to the neck han a classic Precision (looks to be the case on the Jaguar above also), i.e., effects on tone etc?

..... or a Friday afternoon instrument?

I would, don't see it as an unpaid gig, see it as a free rehearsal All joking aside and re this.... .... I'm not sure what a genuine supporter of live music is or isn't, but if it's a genuine music venue as opposed to a pub that just wants free acts, I'd be in.

Nice analogies 👍

Um….

Frankly if it wasn’t being rammed down our throats by every media source we’d probably not even notice Jack

Really should have bought a set of Gamuts before they tariffs struck 😕

I'm gonna try and get to that 👍

Yep 👍

Did the guy in Paris get his money back?

Agreed, i worry when i see stuff price at dangerously low prices in some places that it's because they're about to go under....

Well I'd be f***ing careful then @Si600, because screwing your voice up in that situation is very easily done, and can result in a lot of problems not just limited to no longer being able to sing a couple of songs at a gig. And re.... They're also two Stranglers songs that require some vocal skill to avoind becoming shouty, it's almost like I saw this coming.....

Frankly, it's a bit of a sobering warning about buying expensive gear online. Does anyone know whether a person in that situation be protected had they paid by PayPal or by credit card?

Crikey, I return to this thread to find the forum has changed to pickguardchat.co.uk