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Because I've read too much about Chris Poland this year, this set me off looking up info on the SG1500. I found a blog post which gave the history: "When Yamaha introduced the highly acclaimed SG2000 they also introduced a SG1500. In a 1976 flyer where Yamaha introduces the new SG series the SG 1500 appears as second in line after the SG2000. Including sustain plate, T-cross maple etc. This first SG1500 is very close to the original SG2000, but with a set neck instead of the through neck, chrome hardware instead of gold plated, dot inlays instead of block inlays. This SG1500 can be found in catalogs up to 1979 so let’s call that the 76-79 SG1500. "Then in the Japanese 1982 catalogue a new SG1500 is featured: one with block inlays, gold hardware, triple line binding on the head, and with through neck, no seperate top. This SG1500 one is never mentioned in non Japanese catalogs. I don’t know how long it was made. In the 1985 Japanese catalogue this SG1500 is gone. We should call this the 82-84 SG1500." This made me wonder: does this mean that the only differences between later SG1500 and the SG2000 are cosmetic? But then I read on. "Due to the lack of the seperate top on this guitar the neck through design can be seen from the front. No other neck through SG had that. The neck of most neck through SG’s was made of 3 parts of wood with maple in the middle but the 82-84 SG1500 had a 5 piece neck with two pieces of maple" Since this is a desperately dull, pointless post, here's three minutes of Chris Poland playing an SBG

I forgot to point out that there are Kilotons made from Empress out there. Here's an old advert for one - just 7.2 lbs https://musicstorelive.com/g-l-usa-kiloton-bass-fullerton-red-lightweight-empress-maple-fretboard-1-5-nut-width-7-2-lbs.html

The Reeling Bones

I just imagined Mick, Keith, Macca and Ringo in one band, and it wasn't a happy thought

In the specific instance of the L-2000, the neck of the Tribute has a 1¾" nut. On the Tribute versions of the two models that have traditional alnico pickups rather than G&L's MFD pickups, the JB and LB-100, the pickups are not exactly the same as on the USA versions.

This story is stolen from TB, but it's stolen from a thread I started last autumn, so it's mine right? Funny story about the many wondrous tones of the L-2000. I got mine in 1997, as a b-day/Christmas gift. I still have it. The bass had no manual. I was a high school senior, and had no idea what all the switches did. I knew it was an active bass, so it needed a battery, and that battery needed to be changed periodically. I knew what the volume, bass, and treble knobs did. But that's it. So I plugged the bass in, turned on the amp, and started flipping switches. I found "the" tone on the bass – MY tone. This was December 1997. I literally have not touched the switches since! They have remained at "the" tone – MY tone for 23 years straight. All I have done is to change the battery out every now and then. At some point, maybe 10 or 12 years later, when I got way more into the technical elements of things, I actually looked up what the switches on an L-2000 do. Much to my surprise, I determined that the entire time, the bass had been set to: neck pickup only, series coils, passive. In other words, a classic P Bass ... and no need to have been changing batteries all those years.

I found it interesting that he and someone else in that discussion mentioned using DR Pure Blues on their L-2000s - elsewhere those strings seem to have a reputation for being a bit anemic, but in those clips they sound very strong and vibrant.

"Here are some home made clips for ped"

In your shoes, I would start off with the battery out, and get to know it all just passive. Then I could see just how much / how little tonal variety the active adds. Some people think it simply makes it louder, since the treble and bass controls are cut-only, but there are plenty of half-deaf people opining about basses on the internet.... The guy on TB who supplied those demos of the inner coils – I thought that individually they sounded great, but a bit undercooked when combined. I wonder if your doing the outers will give you something the other way – when soloed, a pair of sounds that are a bit extreme to be useful, but the blended tone being good and characterful?

It's my own fault for having bumped this thread, but since I started it I bought Squier Matt Freeman with a 42mm Modern C neck. I've had it set up just how I want it, and have replaced the pickup, nut and strings, and so have £600 of P-bed I'm getting on with lying in. Which means this news of a 40mm / 22mm / 25mm Squier P is simultaneously delightful and something I need to ignore, at least for the time being. So thank you very much, but no thank you for the offer *tries not to sulk*

The standard nut for the SB-2 and Kiloton is the 1½" / 38mm, and the Tributes follow suit The standard nut for the LB-100 and SB-1 is 1⅝" / 41mm, and the Tribute LB-100 follows suit For reasons lost in the mists of time the Tribute L-2000 is 1¾" / 44.5mm tho on the US version it too has the usual 1⅝" as standard. Off the top of my head I can no longer remember which of the Tributes get the 12" radius. The Kiloton Tribute I think is one. I believe that for a while 12" was standard for the US models. What dates that was, I've no idea. The thicknesses for the standard US necks ('medium C') are 0.820" at the 1st fret and 0.940" at the 12th (except the 1½" nut is only 0.920 at the 12th) The necks of CLF Research L-1000 / L-2000 are 1⅝" nut, 0.800" / 0.900" ('slim C') I've never found any numbers for the Tribute thicknesses, but have read people saying that the LB-100 Tribute is thicker than the US's medium C Is *anyone* still awake? I am sorry Imagine what it's like, having all this rattling around in my head.....

The BB split is not in the standard P position – it's a little closer to the neck. And since this thread I've put a Dimarzio in a Squier Matt Freeman...

Bass Direct have just listed a Squier Mike Dirnt, giving it as 42mm Thick C - I guess they're copying the same info GAK are copying? In their photo, that nut does look a lot more like 40mm than 42mm... It's only 7 lb 1 oz! and only £250!! I'm having great trouble not buying it..... 😅

Randomly messing around with my multi effects unit and chanced on the discovery that the way to get some real character out of the 424's neck pickup is to play it through.... *peers at tiny screen* ....a mid-60s Fender Twin Reverb. Huh. So if any bassists have one of those lying around....

I've just noticed that the necks of the CLF Research L-1000 and L-2000, the two models that have that non-pointy headstock, have a different neck profile as well: 1⅝" nut, as is standard for the L-2000, but a little bit more shallow (0.5mm thinner at 1st fret, 1mm thinner at 12th fret) So as far as I can see, it's the whole neck, not just the headstock, that is only available on the two CLF Research models. BTW, the standard neck for the Kiloton is 1½", but 1⅝" and 1¾" can be opted for on the USA built basses (for about £50, iirc)

When I was recently looking at the current MIJ Precisions (if you want to do the same, tell the Fender site that you're in Japan) I noticed that the "Traditional" range of Ps (a 50s, a 60s and a 70s) all have nut widths a couple of mm less than what was standard in the 50s 60s and 70s. Is that the case with your MIJ 50s – it the neck a bit slimmer than on, say, the MIM Vintera?

Some time after joining BC and TB, I went to listen all these revered bassists (Jaco, Geddy, Thingy, Wotsit) and immediately realised that a defining feature of a Highly Acclaimed Bassist is playing music which would I would find insufferable even without their eye-catching contributions. Then I put the Sister Sledge back on.

I would much rather be told three times than no times at all, so everything's peachy

If you've already got the wherewithal to make an old Mustang to hand, and by adding a label you can multiply the price.... This is why you get fake Casios: someone making dirt cheap digital watches changes the design of the outer layer and now has something worth a couple of dollars instead of a few pence. Like most theft, the crime is opportunistic, someone greeting temptation with open arms.

You have already told me this, that's why I used the word 'impersonation' – I know that no element is correct, but most are close enough, and the overall effect is vaguely convincing. It amuses me that I'm using a P to impersonate a Japanese P bass, and a Dimarzio to impersonate a Dimarzio-copy 🙃

I bought one of these .... to pop into my Matt Freeman .... so I could do an okay Ibanez Blazer impersonation ....

I've spent my whole life performing and listening to music and I've only recently come to terms with the fact that the music I perform and the music I listen to have as good as no overlap. I used to feel guilty about it, but it now seems to make sense.

Sorry, yes, classified ads on TalkBass. So individually they need taking with a pinch of salt, but I hoped the range would show that looking for a light one would be worth your while