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[quote name='JellyKnees' timestamp='1333551938' post='1603439'] I would argue that's only the case only if someone makes money out of it. Until then, it's just the vibration of air molecules as perceived by the eardrum. [/quote] Yeh of course! And when I'm sat in my room or out on the beach in the summer playing guitar etc. I do it for me because I enjoy music first and foremost. But I've got to make a living from it too, and so do a lot of people, including those who don't play instruments at all. I would be lying if I said that I wasn't financially motivated by music on some level. But music is most enjoyable when there's no pressure from anyone else, and where there's money there's pressure. That's one of the reasons why playing music for yourself is great. [quote name='chaypup' timestamp='1333552397' post='1603453'] Do you not think it's a bit hypocritical to sing "It's not about the money, money, money" etc and then do ads for Mastercard? Fair enough, do adverts/corporate work/suck on Satan's c*ck (as Bill Hicks put it) but don't tell me it's not about the price tag! Edit:I actually love her singing, esp the big band stuff I've seen. [/quote] I think the sentiment of the tune is one of the things that makes the song salable. Most people who know anything about music will know that it is hugely ironic to have success with a song and lyrics that pertain to the rejection of generating money from music, and then having it played on the hour every hour on Radio One for the next 5 years. It's hard not to be a hypocrite when you make music that then gets sold on a national and international scale.

The music vs. money thing I partially buy into, but there has been plenty of creative people that have existed within the music industry and have made wonderfully progressive music whilst generating cash for their labels. The degree to which an artist or band's creativity may have been hampered by efforts by labels to drive work out of them will never be fully understood because without the platform offered by the industry to broadcast a band's talent, hardly anyone would get to hear what is there to be offered. I would equally submit that its as much about being in the 'right place at the right time' too.

[quote name='BottomE' timestamp='1333536674' post='1602999'] When i was a nipper there always appeared to be a healthy disconnet between popular music and the corporate world. [/quote] This has never been the case. 'Artistic integrity' is a complete facade. Even the most left field bands who you like to think have managed to keep their work clear of the corporate machine have their selling point. People need to make money, music is a commodity, be under no illusion.

[quote name='silddx' timestamp='1333471348' post='1602243'] That's all totally cool mate, just that [b]none of what you have written bears much relation to music[/b], that's all. [/quote] Depends who you're talking to, doesn't it.

[quote name='ras52' timestamp='1333469220' post='1602192'] I was just wondering if that bunch had been mentioned... my vote would be for Hey Jude, which seems to have entered into mass consciousness... my little daughter knew it when she was five or six. [/quote] I mentioned them in my OP. The Beatles really sum up what pop is for me.

I made a massive, hugely foolish error a 5 months back! I was set to play in front of 10,000 people in an arena in Gothenburg Sweden, an important gig for us and a rare opportunity. Before I'd got to Sweden, I'd bought some D'Addario strings online, and decided a few hours before the gig started to restring and play them in a bit before I went on. So there I was in our changing room, happily cutting the strings off of my old bass behind the nut of my Lakland, only to pull out the strings and notice something odd about them... I'd accidentally bought short scales. I could have kicked myself for being so incredibly stupid, in fact I think I tried a few times. Luckily for me I managed to borrow the in-house bass player's Stingray 5 and everything was okay! Here's a pic of the Ray I ended up playing... lovely bass [sharedmedia=core:attachments:93700]

I'm off to see them this Sunday, I'll tell you what its like!

[quote name='Jack Cahalane' timestamp='1333320043' post='1600135'] It's gotta be this for me [/quote] I love this song. And quite a few others posted up too that made me think 'great'. There's been some interesting stuff so far and I'm looking forward to seeing other peoples!

Big +1 on Johnny Marr, but the one that very obviously stands out from the U.K is Brian May, he went quite some way to defining Queen's sound. A bit more recently in the U.K Johnny Greenwood from Radiohead and and Graham Coxon from Blur.

Following on from BB5's Michael Jackson post, I wondered if there were one or two songs that you could identify that could constitute as 'classic' pop songs. Something that you like and admire for embodying what you enjoy about music, but that is truly considered timeless. I appreciate that on this forum there are a wide variety of tastes in music, so I'd be interested to see the results. There's no set criteria as such, but posting something like a 10 minute epic from some obscure prog band probably isn't going to count because whist it is 'pop music', it's not in the forefront of the musical public consciousness like 'Hey Jude' is (for example). And for those that might claim that they 'dislike pop music', be honest with yourselves, and I mean very honest with yourselves. Think about your favourite music is and then think of its roots. I personally could choose from a lot of stuff. Michael Jackson's Thriller album always springs to mind whenever I mention great pop music, but for me these two do it. The first one is The Beatles 'She's Leaving Home' and the second is 'God Only Knows' by the Beach Boys. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lG3nXyI41M http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDfH_J4MAUQ Your turn!

I love PYT, it's such a tune BB. Also really like Baby Be Mine if we're talking left field Thriller tunes. The whole album is finely crafted pop.

Personally I'll always need a jazz style bass, they're completely indispensable for what I do. If you're saying that you've never got on with jazz basses then maybe you don't need one. EDIT I agree with Clarky, sounds like you've made up your mind. Just do it

I know 3 or 4 exceptional drummers, including my own drummer who is absolutely rock solid and has great feel. Having a good drummer is top of my list of things that make me happy when I'm playing, if he makes my playing feel effortless then he's good.

I don't think many people would necessarily care, but if you're aiming to give people a bit of a chuckle then it's probably worth pointing out that it isn't even that funny. Swerve it.

[quote name='Platypus' timestamp='1333056909' post='1596908'] I used to have a Bob Glaub - though never sounded like Pine [/quote] I think he could play any bass and make it sound good really, he's just a player of unmatched quality. I'm never usually too swayed by when I see another bassist I really like playing a particular instrument, but this seems to be the exception! I'm a big fan of Laklands anyway. I'm currently rooting through the FS section... my girlfriend's going to kill me when she gets back from Uni at Easter to find I've bought a new P!!

Platypus, you have made my evening. A serious gem, my favourite bass player. EDIT - this clip has honestly got me thinking I need a Lakland Bob Glaub to go alongside my Daryl Jones.

No noticeable problems with my TC RH750. The fan comes on but it is incredibly quiet. Not tested it out in the studio just yet.

[quote name='Happy Jack' timestamp='1332831981' post='1593574'] It's the Ric. He stopped using the Hofner by the time they made Revolver (1966). [/quote] I think I remember MacCartney or maybe Geoff Emerick mentioning that it got to around Abbey Road time that he was mixing it up with the Rik, the Hofner and one or two others?

I month or two back I brought this up in another thread. If you were indeed serious about buying a new bass, then it is worth reminding them that in their capacity as a sales person they are there to help you. I don't think naming and shaming would be overly helpful but certainly take your business elsewhere if they were rude or objectionable. A handy hint though. Music store owners will most likely be tired of seeing 'window shoppers' and Saturday afternoon hobbyists come in just to have a quick play on their instruments. If you're looking to buy a new bass then its worth explaining your position to the bloke at the counter clearly and concisely so that he is left in no doubt that you're here to make an informed decision about spending your hard-earned cash on a new instrument. That way you can make the distinction between being a timewaster and a potential customer.

[quote name='Icarus_147' timestamp='1332897591' post='1594678'] Look, I'm sorry to disappoint you, but I'm just here to try and get some information on a bass I'm interested in, not indulge in any sort of musical elitism. [/quote] Sounds like you've already made up your mind, I say if you like the bass then go for it, and you'd be right to ignore the slight tinge of elitism dotted throughout this thread. I would hasten to add though that if you like the sound of the YT demos then any P-Bass with roundwound strings on it is going to sound that bright and punchy. But if it's the look of the bass you're after, there's probably nothing better!

[quote name='leftyhook' timestamp='1332880793' post='1594487'] Every P bass I have tried felt very average compared to my Wal, Warwick and even my Hohner Steinberger copy. That's playability, sound. Sexiness? [/quote] And I'd take a P-Bass over everything you've just listed! Opinions differ. I generally found that I rarely got complaints with recording work when I used a P-Bass.

I don't get out to see much live music which is strange for someone who counts themselves as a music lover! I've seen jc_riffs a few times and we've played in similar lineups for years now. I was a bit gutted to have missed BigRedX a month or two back playing in Liverpool, but we had a gig on the same evening unfortunately, so I'll make an effort next time he's up my way to get over and say hello.

It's a fantastic bass part, incredibly well crafted. If I remember correctly Harrison (who wrote the tune) didn't like it. And yes, Ringo's playing is wonderfully tasteful as well. They all developed as musicians over time, but I think Ringo and Harrison most noticeably so, and their eventual attention to detail makes the Beatles later work great to listen to.

I love watched Louis Johnson play, he smacks the hell out of his bass! Genuinely fantastic player. Always loved 'Get On the Floor' of Jacko's Off the Wall (ignore the terrible haircuts!) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HwCzTo20d18

You may! I played for Toyota with Lasse Kroner and one of the nice ladies that won your 'Swedish Idol' I believe. I play in Sweden quite regularly, Gothenburg, Stockholm and everywhere in between (literally) in the summer and occasionally in the winter months. I love it.