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[quote name='Doddy' timestamp='1331556080' post='1574613'] True. However,I will make an exception for John Entwistle...mainly because of that 'Bassist of the Millenium' thing that keeps getting touted. I don't even think he's the best bass player to play with The Who [/quote] This is unfortunately already for me where the problems start with topics like this. I'm no big Entwistle fan, but I think some of his bass lines are fantastic, and it's very easy to see why he's so popular. Your issue should probably be more with the people who need 'top 10 bass players of all time' style lists in order to qualify their otherwise completely subjective opinions. As far as the Who were concerned (and probably 99% of their fans), Entwistle was the dogs, and that's what matters. Don't make me link to the Alex James fiasco from a few weeks back!

[quote name='Hobbayne' timestamp='1331551137' post='1574470'] When I was learning the bass, a mate played me the Beatles song, Rain, I had never heard the bass played so high up the neck prior to that, I loved it! [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ppKhsgYMxI&feature=fvwrel[/media] [/quote] Brilliant! I love it. McCartney and George Martin actually did start to spend a lot of time looking at how the bass got recorded after it became apparent that a lot of their sound rested on what was happening with Paul's incredibly melodic approach to playing. Superb stuff.

[quote name='thisnameistaken' timestamp='1331544624' post='1574305'] Smiths - Heaven Knows I'm Miserable Now, This Charming Man. Cure - Love Cats, Close To Me, Lovesong, etc.. Madness - House Of Fun, In The City, Deceives The Eye, etc. [/quote] I did mean to include some Andy Rourke as well. Actually one of my favourite songs of all time, Johnny's guitar chimes and the bass is just great http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGnjrTkv1gs

[quote]over rated bassists ?[/quote] File under 'overrated topics'. I don't think there's any such thing, only music I like and music I don't.

Better than arguing over it, can it just be accepted by everyone that the bass/kick thing is entirely dependent on the style of music that you play. Not referring to any one person in particular but its hardly helpful to be barraging the OP with what is a fair bit of misinformation and assumptions.

Pretty much the past 5 posts have all been Pino bass parts. I love it

Don Henley - New York Minute. Cheesy, cheesy as anything, massive guilty pleasure but one of the best fretless bass parts on record. Pino Palladino at his finest. I don't tell anyone that I listen to it though

Love Celinders and Mike Lull stuff, can't really get on board with either in terms of looks but I bet they sound bloody brilliant.

I saw it when it first came out and I still struggle with a.) the price and b.) to see what advantages it can offer my band over our current P.A and mixer (none it would seem). Respect to them for offering something new but I can't help but feel that it all looks a bit sh*te... and I too am not a huge Line 6 fan either.

The Beatles, no argument whatsoever really.

I've skim-read a lot of what has been written by other people, I didn't read it all as there was a lot of it so I apologise if I'm repeating a few things! To the OP. If you lack confidence in yourself, you'd be wise to get yourself into a band. When I started playing, it was all about having fun for me, and playing in a band is a lot of fun. It's a big confidence booster too. You'll soon find that music is all about communication with other people through what you play. Even if its the simplest of bass lines, there is something immensely satisfying in knowing that you're propping up the rest of your band with your rock solid and very simplistic bass part. I can't stress enough how enjoyable the whole experience of being in a band is, and if you're passionate about music it's definitely one way to snap you into shape as a bass player. The other big deal is to get inspired by someone. For me, there was a local bass player that used to make my jaw drop when I watched him play some stuff that at the time was seemingly impossible. You'll always feel pressured and unhappy if you measure your skill against seasoned bass players, but when you watch your bassist, go and grab your bass and pay a lot of attention to what makes that bass player so great to watch. Then try and extract it and take influence from him/her. Lessons with great teachers can inspire you too. We all have our ups and downs as musicians but as long as you're not putting undue pressure on yourself to be living up to other people's expectations, then music should be about having fun first and foremost. Everyone's very capable of this part of playing the bass guitar, regardless of experience.

Get a Stingray if you're a Flea fan, you'll absolutely love it.

I see this as a similar kind of question to 'I'm a beginner bass player, should I be playing short scale basses?'. I don't see the point of limiting yourself before you've even started, and I'd strongly recommend trying every kind of 5 string you can before settling on what string spacing you want before you've even tried anything out. You never know what you're going to like and what you're not, so I'd go with BRX's advice and go and try some stuff.

Holy smokes Warwickhunt, do let me know if you happen to sell that Sadowsky again, I'd most likely take it right off your hands if I've got the funds! Wonderful instrument

It's the surge inside that playing live music gives you. The idea that you can thrill a group of people who are there to be entertained is a pretty intoxicating feeling. I've got a weird one at the moment. I find myself coming in from gigs at 1-2 a.m sometimes having played all night, but plugging in my bass again to carry on playing by myself until I decide I want to go to sleep. I've gotten good at inspiring myself at gigs, and sometimes the excess energy at the end of the night spills over into when I get back home. I'm never really bored of playing, I always find it enjoyable.

I suspect a multitude of synth-style pedals aka the Deep Impact, EHX Bass Microsynth or alike would get you close. But if it's really synthy bass that you want, then I'd probably advocate getting a keys synth. For me its the real deal, much more flexible and IMO much more usable.

Not been myself but I'm aware of these guys being great for high end stuff if it's your bag http://www.austinbasstraders.com/. [quote name='njr911' timestamp='1331037404' post='1566600'] I love vintage Fenders ([b]who deosn't[/b]) [/quote] Unfortunately there are a few on this site! But hey... they're wrong enjoy your trip, my uncle's from Austin and is always asking me to go over, apparently the live music scene is most excellent.

I too am someone that tends to feed from an audience's response to our music. It gives you a big boost. The feeling of over-familiarity of music is a bit power zapping. The real struggle in being a regular gigging musician is finding the enjoyment in a song you've played thousands of times before, and that's really where the audience helps. If you're playing to a lifeless audience, then it can be really hard to find that energy to perform to your full potential.

Not terrible (although not my thing at all), and actually incredibly affordable really. I have no idea about the brand though.

Off to see Snarky Puppy on the 8th April Chris, they're excellent.

[quote name='Austin7' timestamp='1330978673' post='1565781'] I agree with the statement that it "must be a tough world living in mother's basement" and with your statements, too. There are many positive things about TB, but especially in the last year things have taken a turn for the worse. Although the mods are great, I'd say there are just too many problems there for humans to solve in any meaningful way. But things are always changing in life and maybe some day the situation there will improve. Having said that, the "Basses" section there is often pretty good as well as a few other sections. Sometimes it's about the only way to find info on certain basses, etc. [/quote] I quite agree! I remember a quite few years back when I was quite a bit more impetuous, I replied to a thread that had been started about Bill Dickens saying that a recent video I'd watched sounded like someone 'throwing an 10 string bass down some stairs'. My post wasn't worded maliciously (although very poorly thought out and very tongue in cheek), but almost immediately my post was edited by moderators and I was given a 'warning' saying that further replies like that would see me banned. I was younger at the time and probably looking to cause a bit of a stir but at the end of the day, it was just an opinion. I saw similar heavy handedness with opinions being used elsewhere. Add to that everyone being so incredibly sycophantic to the mods, it made for a general lack a broad opinion and a very close-minded type of forum that was no fun to use. I actually happened to speak to some incredibly helpful individuals on TB, but I almost never find myself using it anymore and I never post there. To much silly mob mentality and way too much sucking up, not enough opinion on what really matters music wise from a bass player's perspective. I'm sure the majority of the users don't 'live in their parent's basement' but some people over there obviously like to hammer out their obnoxious opinions without any real knowledge of subject matter 'X' from the safety of their swivel-chair and behind their ergonomic keyboards. A proper hobbyist's forum I suppose! We're obviously all hobbyists here too, but this is a much more vibrant place to be where opinions can be challenged, and you can actually have a decent conversation without psuedoscience and popular opinion getting in the way.

[quote name='1SHOT1HIT' timestamp='1330710163' post='1562078'] I think some of it was that, yes. I also think a lot was just pure, envious hatred and sheer bitterness that it happened to someone other than them.[b] I mean it's a tough world living in mothers basement. [/b] [/quote] I think you very eloquently summed it up with this. And congratulations on a stunning instrument, I'm utterly delighted for you Just make sure it gets played! Instruments exist to create music, not to sit as eye candy on a guitar stand. Might I also suggest you stick around here? We're a much friendlier bunch than TB and if you're going to be learning to play bass, then this is the place you're going to want to be!

Most of my favourite Jaco tracks have been mentioned, but I'll give a hearty +1 to Herbie Hancock's '4 A.M' and 'Night Passage' by The Weather Report, as well as 'Opus Pocus'. So effortlessly cool I think, and personal favourites. I regularly find myself warming up with 'Okonkole Y Trompa' too. Jaco had an unbelievable funk feel that's really hard to get to grips with, very unique as well. I'll always be a huge fan and he's been a big influence on me!

[quote name='LukeFRC' timestamp='1330936330' post='1564845'] You need a T40 to show your real man-bass ness. P's are for wimps [/quote] Never held a T40, but my old P-Bass weighed something in the region of 13-14lbs!! If you hit someone a la Keith Richards with it, they wouldn't be getting back up