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I am always overwhelmed by this place - generosity in every form is abundant. I've had strings sent to me for no cost, same with a re-stringing key thingy, unsolicited messages of support for various things and advice by the shedload. I have been on (and run) discussion forums on the internet for years and this has by far the best sense of community. Being a serious GAS victim, I find the classifieds a particularly safe and comfortable environment in which to shop. Now - who is going to buy my Trace rig.....
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I bought the active version upgraded with Seymour Duncans a few months back for slightly less than that - £390 plus postage - but I think I got it cheap tbh. Given that yours is largely untouched I would say £450 +/-. This is my 'go to' bass - I've bonded with it big time. If build quality and general ooofness were the only criteria it would be worth more, especially when you think that MIJ Squires of a similar age can fetch ludicrous amounts, but I don't think the market will take more.
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Over the last couple of days I did a play off on amps in this price range and my strongest advice is 'go and try them' as it is only when you hear them, fiddle with them and play with the settings that you will get a feel for what they will do. People will vary as to their requirements - what suits some disappoints others. I tried Orange Terror Bass, TC Electronic Classic 450, Promethean, Genz Benz Shuttle 6, an Ampeg lightweight, Markbass Little Mark Rocker. Finalists were Genz Benz, against expectation and Classic 450, which is the one I ended up getting. Not exactly after the toss of a coin but it was a hard choice to make. The point being that the Genz Benz wouldn't even have been a contender had I not tried it as I didn't think it would be 'right' but, once played, it was right up there. But you might well plug in the Promethean and find it is exactly what you want!
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I going to Cornwall at the end of this month with a largely empty car as it happens.... something to think about?
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Complete Trace Elliot rig - 8th April - SOLD!!
Paul S replied to Paul S's topic in Amps and Cabs For Sale
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A shameless plug here - I am selling a complete, ready to gig, top quality Trace Elliot rig and have just dropped by price almost suicidally - details: AH300-12, with cover and kettle lead - [s]£250[/s] [color="#FF0000"]£200[/color] 1153T, with cover and cable - [s]£150[/s] [color="#FF0000"]£120[/color] 2013H, with cover and cable - [s]£150[/s] [color="#FF0000"]£120[/color] 1818 - [s]£120[/s] [color="#FF0000"]£100[/color] Footswitch - [s]£50[/s] [color="#FF0000"]£40[/color] Head + 1153 +2013 +footswitch + cables etc [s]£550[/s] [color="#FF0000"]£450[/color] Head + (1153 or 2013) + 1818 + cables etc + footswitch [s]£520[/s] [color="#FF0000"]£420[/color] Remove footswitch less £40. Whole lot [s]£600. [/s] [color="#FF0000"]£500[/color] AND I'll deliver it ALL to Swindon for the cost of the fuel...
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Complete Trace Elliot rig - 8th April - SOLD!!
Paul S replied to Paul S's topic in Amps and Cabs For Sale
Right, another price drop as I have now splashed out on the replacement and I could do with this lot gone. AH300-12, with cover and kettle lead - [s]£250[/s] [color="#FF0000"]£200[/color] 1153T, with cover and cable - [s]£150[/s] [color="#FF0000"]£120[/color] 2013H, with cover and cable - [s]£150[/s] [color="#FF0000"]£120[/color] 1818 - [s]£120[/s] [color="#FF0000"]£100[/color] Footswitch - [s]£50[/s] [color="#FF0000"]£40[/color] Head + 1153 +2013 +footswitch + cables etc [s]£550[/s] [color="#FF0000"]£450[/color] Head + (1153 or 2013) + 1818 + cables etc + footswitch [s]£520[/s] [color="#FF0000"]£420[/color] Remove footswitch less £40. Whole lot [s]£600. [/s] [color="#FF0000"]£500[/color] I know, I am mad. I will deliver a reasonable distance for cost of fuel. Just ask! -
Things move fast around here. I took my Fender Power Jazz Special along to Bass Merchant in Colchester this afternoon and tried a few things - Promethean, Little Mark Rocker, Genz Benz Shuttle 6 and TC Electronics Classic 450. Promethean didn't do it for me and fell by the wayside immediately. Little Mark Rocker was nice but a bit too expensive and IMO not worth the extra - the extra overdrive wasn't really that useable as far as I could see. TC Classic 450 was great - if I had heard that yesterday I would probably have bought it straight away as it made a sound I aspire to, plus a lot more. Then I tried the Genz Benz and surprised myself by really liking it - I wasn't expecting to - and could barely decide which to choose between that and the TC head. I switched from one to the other several times but came home with the Classic 450. There was a warmth to the sound that just took the edge for what I play, rather than the more transparent brittleness (heard that somewhere and it fit's perfectly) of the Genz Benz. Ideally I could have had both! I must say I was totally blown away by this lightweight stuff. Far from the compromise I had envisaged I actually feel really inspired by this kit. The tone and power is just awesome. I can't wait to get gigging with it. It will certainly be surreal next rehearsal as I will be playing this new head through my Trace 18" cab. Sublime to the ridiculous. Anyway, thanks to everyone for their input on this - it is really appreciated.
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I will look into the various postage options and report back - I guess posting to Germany is going to be expensive but I would be prepared to do it - once it is packed for transit it doesn't really matter where it goes. I just get nervous about couriers and postage and the all seem to have a long history of parcel abuse. Haverhill I'd probably rather deliver it for petrol money and eliminate any risk - which would be a viable option, guys, for anyone within about 100 miles or so. Or meet half way, that kind of thing. This is a definite 'For Sale' now. I'll dig out the serial number and take more pics if anyone wants any.
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That might have worked, Ben. A few hundred miles round trip, but an interesting drive nevertheless. As it happens I have now stuck a deposit on one of Alex's finest, so sorted for a cab. And I think I might be after one of the tube pre-amps. Incidentally - a while back you posted a link to a YouTube of your band playing 'The Chain' - I showed it to one of my bands and on the strength of how good it sounded and how ell it worked with a small band we are going to give it a go. Thought I'd mention it.
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A lot of suggestions here, thanks all. I tried an Orange Terror Bass at PMT today (also a new lightweight Ampeg thingy, which didn't do it for me at all). I thought the Orange was very nice but the gain seemed too easy to overdo with my Fender Power Jazz Special - beyond about 2 o'clock it seemed a bit farty. Rolled off to about half it was lovely, though. I'm off to Bass Merchant tomorrow to have a go on whatever they have in stock - Promethean, Genz benz, TC Classic 450, Markbass.
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I [s]am thinking of[/s] selling my Fender Jaguar. I use either my Power Jazz Special or the Bass Collection more at the moment and, frankly, could do with releasing some cash to help fund some lightweight amp/cabs that I need to get. Had it from new for a couple of years. I replaced the original creamy white scratchplate with this black one - looks sexier IMO and the bass is now called 'The Panther'. But I still have, and will include, the original. It has only tiny marks on it, nothing much. a little buckle rash at the back - the scratch plate has pick marks on it - they might even polish out, I don't know. One thing I never got around to doing was sorting out the slight hum these jags have when you take your hand off the metal. It is what they do and easily fixed, I am told - I just never did. Currently it has no strings on it - I took off a set of Thomastik flats which I can put back on, or send it stringless for you do use what you like. I won't list all the doings - active, 2 band eq, 2 pups that can be switched series or parallel. Can also be played passive. Beautiful skinny and thin Jazz profile neck - I think it is similar to the Geddy Lee one - with block inlays. Etc etc. A vast array of sounds available. I believe they don't make these any more. Anyway - I am thinking £500, including one of those SKB soft/hard cases but excluding postage extra. Any interest out there? [attachment=76663:jaguarblacksp1.jpg][attachment=76664:jaguarblacksp2.jpg][attachment=76665:jaguarbl acksp3.jpg]
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Complete Trace Elliot rig - 8th April - SOLD!!
Paul S replied to Paul S's topic in Amps and Cabs For Sale
Ok, some details and pics.. The whole rig, with covers, without covers, stacked the other way if you prefer.. [attachment=76538:TE1.jpg][attachment=76539:TE2.jpg][attachment=76541:TE3.jpg][attachment=76540:TE2a .jpg] The head - AH300-12 - (wxhxd) 49 x 15 x 37cm and approx. 15kg [attachment=76542:TE4.jpg][attachment=76543:TE5.jpg] The 2x10 (2103H) cab - 49 x 63 x 43cm and approx 31kg (and it is with an adjustable tweeter) [attachment=76544:TE6.jpg][attachment=76545:TE6a.jpg] The 1x15 (1053T) cab - 49 x 63 x 43cm and approx 26kg [attachment=76546:TE7.jpg][attachment=76547:TE7a.jpg] The ultra-rare footswitch (as you can see, pretty much as new), monster OBBM speaker cables, kettle lead and head manual. [attachment=76548:TE8.jpg][attachment=76549:TE9.jpg] And 'El Gordo' the leviathan 1x18 cabinet I didn't mention yesterday - 61 x 79 x 43cm and approx 40kg. This beast is rather tatty but works perfectly well. I had intended to buy a can of satin black, take all the metal bits off and give him a makeover - the tolex isn't too bad - but, well, won't bother now. On 4 casters, 2 are lockable [attachment=76550:TE10.jpg][attachment=76551:TE10a.jpg] I'd like £120 for this and am reluctant to sell this to anyone leaving by the sea in case it sets off a tsunami. The marks on the fronts of the cabs are reflections from stuff around, not marks. Well, except for El Gordo. The cabs have one or two small tears in the tolex but nothing much. At the back side of the cabs the edges are just starting to lift a fraction - nothing much. And even though the sizes don't seem to match they do stack - it is the little rubber feet that make some measurements different. Edit for price revision - I will sell separately or bundle into a 'deal' AH300-12, with cover and kettle lead - £250 1153T, with cover and cable - £150 2013H, with cover and cable - £150 1818 - £120 Footswitch - £50 Head + 1153 +2013 +footswitch + cables etc £550 Head + (1153 or 2013) + 1818 + cables etc + footswitch £520 Remove footswitch less £50. Whole lot £650. -
Yes, I do it too. Even though I only occasionally do BVs I end up hoarse after every gig and rehearsal because I sing everything I do, often tunelessly (hopefuly not the BVs), and have to steer clear of the mike.
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Another faker here. If you got away with it for 12 yrs without anyone spotting it you must be good ok.
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Got to go lightweight, so this needs to be gone. A complete ball busting, wall trembling, floor vibrating Trace Elliot matching rig. According to the guy I bought it from, who had been a Trace Elliot devotee for many years, this was almost the last bit of kit that left the factory before production was taken over by Gibson. It is all covered in the 'leather effect' tolex, rather than the pimply one or carpet, with metal corners and sprung handles on the cabs. With both cabs it is 300 Trace Elliot Watts of power, which has proved to be more than loud enough for any situation I have gigged in so far. It is all in pretty good nick considering the age, which I guess must be 13 or so years old. Ah300-12 head - no UV light but luminous finish gives the trade mark green glow when in operation. A huge array of knobs, bells and whistles are at your disposal. There are [b]2 inputs[/b] - passive and active. There is an [b]Input gain[/b] control which, er, controls the gain on the input. There is a handy 3 light system for setting this - green is low, yellow is fine, red is overdoing it. It has the [b]GP-12 band EQ[/b], operated by sliders and activated via a push/push button. It has the famous '[b]Trace Elliot Pre-shape[/b]', which overides the EQ and gives the 'trade mark Trace Elliot Sound'. It is the setting I use when playing in my 2 rock bands. Also activated via a push/push button. It has a [b]Harmonic emphasis[/b] push/push button that is varied via a knob. I don't use this. It has [b]Valve Stage[/b] activated by a push/push button and adjusted via a knob. This gives a degree of valve 'warmth' to the sound right up to a fairly strong overdriven sound. I like this. Lots. There is a [b]2-band compressor [/b]with a blend knob. I have it set up more as a boost because I don't really understand what it does, despite Simon's best efforts at explaining it at the last bass bash. There is a [b]noise reduction [/b]push/push button that eliminates hum and hiss, especially if using it with the highs boosted. There is a [b]mute/tune[/b] push/push button - this mutes the connection to the speaker(?) but if connected to a tuner the signal is still available. So that's the front gubbins. On the back there is the power socket and on/off switch. 5-way DIN socket for the 5-way footswitch and a jack socket for a mute footswitch. There are two jack inputs for effects loop, which is switchable parallel/series, with a blend knob. This is EXTREMELY useful and eliminates the need for all sorts of line boxes. There are two jack sockets for line out and tuner. Balanced XLR output for Di, which is switchable pre/post eq. 2 x jack sockets for speakers - min load 4ohms. I recently bought for this a slightly second hand New Old Stock 5 way footswitch, which controls pre-shap, EQ, Valve drive, compression and effects. It really makes using these buttons SO much easier. This arrived wrapped in dried Unicorn placenta and packed out with hens teeth and rocking horse poo. 1153 cab - 15" 2 x jack socket or, strangely (?) XLR rather than Speakon. 2103H - 2 x 10". again, jacks or XLRs. I think this is the one with a switchable tweeter but will check. I would rather sell this as a complete rig, with monster OBBM cables for the speakers and kettle lead. Head has it's original cover, I had Roqsolid covers made for the cabs in black with green piping. [s]£600 for the lot, collection from Benfleet in Essex, SS71LD or meet half way for fuel. This is a huge amount of kit for the money but I need it going and so have priced it to sell. *now with 1x18 cab added - £120[/s] Price revision - I will sell separately or bundle into a 'deal' AH300-12, with cover and kettle lead - £250 1153T, with cover and cable - £150 2013H, with cover and cable - £150 1818 - £120 Footswitch - £50 Head + 1153 +2013 +footswitch + cables etc £550 Head + (1153 or 2013) + 1818 + cables etc + footswitch £520 Remove footswitch less £50. Whole lot £650. I will take some pictures tomorrow and add weights and dimensions but here are a couple of long range shots of it in use last summer (captions welcomed for pic1....) [attachment=76491:Stanford...030710ra.jpg] [attachment=76490:Stanford...030710rc.jpg] Thank you for reading.
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I play a mix of small pubs to open air stuff where the rig is just for stage monitoring and have found my 300w Trace Elliot head to be more than adequate even if just using one cab - so effectively about 220W on tap? Never had to turn up the volume beyond 2 o'clock. Shameless plug - I will be selling this lot soon for not a lot of money. AH300-12 head (with footswitch!!!) 1x15 cab, 2x10 cab. The very last of the pre-Gibson stuff to come out of the factory and in very good nick, all with covers... I'm thinking probably £600 all in, with all cables.
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I must say than I am totally heartened by all the 'there is life after Trace' type comments. Makes me look forward to trying all this new stuff rather than keep regretting having to change. Thank you Basschatters!!
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Ta. I definitely need to go try some out.
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[quote name='Happy Jack' post='1184856' date='Apr 1 2011, 03:10 PM']Not looking to re-start old arguments from old topics, but the only way (IMHO) that you'll ever know how a rig sounds when you gig it with your own band is ... erm ... to gig it with your own band......[/quote] I've certainly found this to be the case with everything else I've had - only by living with it for a while do you get to appreciate it's nuances. The Canvey bass Bash is just around the corner, in terms of time and geographically, so maybe I should make the effort to pop in before I have to go for my gig in the afternoon as I believe there will be some TC gear there at least.
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[quote name='Hamster' post='1184799' date='Apr 1 2011, 02:38 PM']I've finally arrived at 2 x Barefaced 1x15 Compacts and a Markbass LittleMark 800 tube rig. Face-meltingly good for classic rock, weighs about the same as a hummingbird and fits in the boot of my car [/quote] Interesting - I haven't read about this - does the LM tube do something similar to the Trace Elliot 'Valve Drive' thingy where you can overdrive it? Thanks Clarky. I've pm'd Alex so let's see what he says.
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Ta. Was that about 6 weeks ago?
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Some good advice here - cheers. I think separates rather than a combo, too. I can see a shape forming out of the mist.... nothing like sitting down with some rational input to help focus what I want to do If I am going to get some lightweight gear I may as well go the whole hog - the Eden Nemesis probably doesn't weigh much less than the Trace Elliot 1x15 so I wouldn't be gaining much. The Barefaced Compact does seem like a good solution for a cab. Much of a waiting list, Clarky? For the head, well, I'll aim for a lightweight one for everyday use. Orange Terror or TC, probably. Liking what I read of the TC Electronic Classic 450 - it doesn't seem very complicated, which is appealing to a simple chap like me. I'll probably keep the Trace Elliot AH250 for old times sake - I'll get next to nothing for it anyway and it is *so* nice.
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Move on... yes, I know. It is such a shame, though. Finding the sound that 'works' is an expensive and time consuming business and I am fairly daunted by the prospect of having to start again. Colchester is only an hour up the road and a day spent at Bass Merchant might be a plan. Then again I've never got a decent feel for sound when playing in shops - is the Bass Merchant much different? - but for sure I'd get and idea hands on for the portability. But knowing where to start! Barefaced cabs - I am on the list for the roadshow but I suspect that will be too late. Probably need to ditch a couple of heavier basses, too.